IRC log of tsdtf on 2008-02-26

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13:29:25 [Christophe]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Feb/0016.html

13:29:40 [Christophe]

zakim, what conferences?

13:29:40 [Zakim]

I see Team_(comm-f2f)13:03Z, ARCH_Team()8:00AM active

13:29:41 [Zakim]

also scheduled at this time are WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM, IA_CDFWG()8:30AM, UW_Team()8:00AM, Team_(wai)12:34Z

13:29:51 [Christophe]

zakim, this will be WAI_TSDTF

13:29:51 [Zakim]

ok, Christophe; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

13:30:00 [Christophe]

Meeting: TSD TF

13:30:09 [Christophe]

Chairs: Christophe, CarlosV

13:30:22 [Christophe]

Regrets: Tim

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13:30:43 [Christophe]

Agenda+ Next steps for current repository content: update first?

13:30:54 [Christophe]

Agenda+. Review of test samples

13:31:09 [Christophe]

Agenda+ Naming convention and test suite ID in metadata

13:31:16 [Christophe]

Agenda+ Review of action items

13:31:19 [Zakim]

WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started

13:31:26 [Zakim]

+CarlosV

13:32:23 [Zakim]

+??P2

13:32:40 [Christophe]

zakim, ??p2 is Christophe_Strobbe

13:32:40 [Zakim]

+Christophe_Strobbe; got it

13:32:46 [shadi]

zakim, code?

13:32:46 [Zakim]

the conference code is 8783 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), shadi

13:32:58 [Zakim]

+Shadi

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13:36:12 [Zakim]

+Carlos_Iglesias

13:38:47 [shadi]

scribe: Shadi

13:39:16 [shadi]

agenda?

13:39:39 [shadi]

zakim, take up agendum 1

13:39:39 [Zakim]

agendum 1. "Next steps for current repository content: update first?" taken up [from Christophe]

13:39:56 [shadi]

CS: asked WCAG editors about stable criteria

13:40:18 [shadi]

...Gregg responded that next week a draft should be available

13:40:35 [Christophe]

Editor's draft: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/#contents

13:41:44 [Christophe]

Provisional list: 1.2.4, 1.2.5, 1.2.6, 1.2.7, 1.3.1, 1.4.1, 1.4.6, 2.3.1, 2.4.7, 2.4.8, 2.4.9, 3.3.1, 3.3.2, 3.3.5, 3.3.5.

13:42:03 [shadi]

SAZ: let's see next week's draft and decidie according to it [leaning towards updating the current test samples]

13:44:24 [shadi]

...need to also find out which changes happened that affected existing test samples

13:45:13 [shadi]

CS: need to analyze which changes were editorial vs substantial, in order to determine changes needed

13:46:03 [shadi]

SAZ: i think WCAG WG sometimes publishes a diff too

13:46:12 [shadi]

zakim, who is making noise?

13:46:22 [Zakim]

shadi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Christophe_Strobbe (15%), Shadi (14%), Carlos_Iglesias (29%)

13:46:53 [Christophe]

Diff-marked version comparing May and Dec 2007 drafts: http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20071211/Overview-diff.html

13:48:47 [shadi]

SAZ: if there is a Dec -> now diff, we should combine with May -> Dec diff to make a May -> now diff

13:49:33 [shadi]

CS: if we have these two diffs, and identify SCs that haven't changed, can assume they are quite stable, right?

13:50:54 [Christophe]

Diff-marked version Dec 2007-Jan 2008: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/Overview-diff.html

13:51:06 [shadi]

action: respond to Gregg, congratulate on speed of WCAG WG, and ask if a diff version is expected for next week too

13:51:14 [shadi]

action: CV respond to Gregg, congratulate on speed of WCAG WG, and ask if a diff version is expected for next week too

13:51:20 [shadi]

zakim, drop action 1

13:51:20 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'drop action 1', shadi

13:51:24 [shadi]

drop action 1

13:51:34 [shadi]

rrsagent, drop action 1

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13:52:26 [shadi]

zakim, close agendum 1

13:52:26 [Zakim]

agendum 1, Next steps for current repository content: update first?, closed

13:52:29 [Zakim]

I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

13:52:30 [shadi]

agenda?

13:52:31 [Zakim]

2. . Review of test samples [from Christophe]

13:53:42 [shadi]

agenda+ Directory Structure

13:53:52 [shadi]

zakim, take up agendum 5

13:53:52 [Zakim]

agendum 5. "Directory Structure" taken up [from shadi]

13:54:14 [Christophe]

In archive: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Feb/0017.html

13:59:05 [shadi]

SAZ: seem to recall discussion that "resources" directory was not useful, but no decision seems to be recorded

13:59:39 [shadi]

...since most of the current tests now use the "resources", it may be more practical to just continue using it

13:59:59 [shadi]

...not ideal solution but will be difficult to change all those tests

14:00:54 [shadi]

CV: there is a /video directory and a /resources/video directory

14:02:02 [shadi]

SAZ: so only a few tests use the /video directory (without "resources")

14:02:16 [shadi]

CS: actually no more, they have all been ported by now

14:03:26 [shadi]

___DONT_ADD_FILES_HERE

14:07:31 [shadi]

RESOLUTION: use testfiles/resources/{technology} directory structure as opposed to testfiles/{technology}

14:07:35 [Christophe]

We only need to change the test sample that uses testfiles/resources/video/sc1.2.2_l1_001.wav

14:08:12 [shadi]

action: SAZ to update using TCDL document accordingly

14:10:45 [shadi]

action: CV to check the test samples that are associated with the 14 files currently in the /testfiles/video directory

14:12:35 [shadi]

action: everyone to check that no publicly archived e-mail, test sample, or web page (that they can easily check) points to /testfiles/video/*

14:15:26 [shadi]

http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/xhtml/metadata/sc1.3.1_l1_045.xml

14:18:13 [Zakim]

-Shadi

14:18:18 [Zakim]

-CarlosV

14:18:21 [Zakim]

-Christophe_Strobbe

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-Carlos_Iglesias

14:18:31 [Zakim]

WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended

14:18:32 [Zakim]

Attendees were CarlosV, Christophe_Strobbe, Shadi, Carlos_Iglesias

14:21:27 [shadi]

zakim, bye

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14:21:34 [shadi]

rrsagent, make logs world

14:21:38 [shadi]

rrsagent, make minutes

14:21:38 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/26-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi

14:21:50 [shadi]

rrsagent, bye

14:21:50 [RRSAgent]

I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/26-tsdtf-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: CV respond to Gregg, congratulate on speed of WCAG WG, and ask if a diff version is expected for next week too [2]

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ACTION: SAZ to update using TCDL document accordingly [3]

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ACTION: CV to check the test samples that are associated with the 14 files currently in the /testfiles/video directory [4]

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ACTION: everyone to check that no publicly archived e-mail, test sample, or web page (that they can easily check) points to /testfiles/video/* [5]

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