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13:14:42 <trackbot-ng> Zakim, this will be XMLSEC
13:14:42 <Zakim> ok, trackbot-ng; I see T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM scheduled to start in 46 minutes
13:14:43 <trackbot-ng> Meeting: XML Security Specifications Maintenance Working Group Teleconference
13:14:43 <trackbot-ng> Date: 12 February 2008
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13:48:00 <fjh> Chair: Frederick Hirsch
13:48:13 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Feb/0005.html
13:48:33 <fjh> Regrets: Shivaram Mysore
13:49:30 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
13:49:30 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has not yet started, fjh
13:49:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see fjh, jwray, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
13:56:58 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
13:56:58 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has not yet started, fjh
13:56:59 <Zakim> On IRC I see fjh, jwray, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
13:57:44 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has now started
13:57:51 <Zakim> +??P0
13:57:53 <tlr> zakim, call thomas-781
13:57:53 <Zakim> ok, tlr; the call is being made
13:57:55 <Zakim> +Thomas
13:58:23 <Zakim> + +01781492aaaa
13:58:25 <tlr> zakim, ??P0 is rdmiller
13:58:25 <Zakim> +rdmiller; got it
13:58:33 <tlr> zakim, aaaa is fjh
13:58:33 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
13:58:42 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
13:58:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see rdmiller, Thomas, fjh
13:58:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see fjh, jwray, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
13:58:47 <PHB> PHB has joined #xmlsec
13:59:01 <PHB> Zakim, code?
13:59:01 <Zakim> the conference code is 965732 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), PHB
13:59:08 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
13:59:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see rdmiller, Thomas, fjh
13:59:09 <Zakim> On IRC I see PHB, fjh, jwray, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
13:59:21 <Zakim> +JohnWray
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13:59:59 <Zakim> +PHB
14:01:21 <Zakim> +brich
14:01:38 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:01:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see rdmiller, Thomas, fjh, JohnWray, PHB, brich
14:01:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see sean, PHB, fjh, jwray, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
14:01:43 <Zakim> +Sean_Mullen
14:01:47 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:01:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see rdmiller, Thomas, fjh, JohnWray, PHB, brich, Sean_Mullen
14:01:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see sean, PHB, fjh, jwray, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
14:02:03 <brich> brich has joined #xmlsec
14:02:20 <tlr> ScribeNickL tlr
14:02:23 <tlr> ScribeNick: tlr
14:02:29 <tlr> zakim, I am thomas
14:02:29 <Zakim> ok, tlr, I now associate you with Thomas
14:02:31 <tlr> zakim, mute me
14:02:31 <Zakim> Thomas should now be muted
14:03:07 <tlr> Topic: administrivia
14:03:22 <tlr> zakim, unmute me
14:03:22 <Zakim> Thomas should no longer be muted
14:03:42 <tlr> fjh: two status questions: chartering, test suites
14:04:22 <fjh> tlr: W3C license for test suites
14:04:25 <Zakim> +Hal_Lockhart
14:04:44 <fjh> s/license/document license/
14:05:03 <fjh> tlr: does not allow derivative works, but can distribute without modification
14:05:44 <fjh> tlr: do we need apache license?
14:06:03 <tlr> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-documents-20021231
14:06:07 <fjh> sean: can you please share link for W3C document license
14:07:21 <fjh> action: sean to look at W3C document license compatibility with sharing test cases with Apache
14:07:21 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-145 - Look at W3C document license compatibility with sharing test cases with Apache [on Sean Mullan - due 2008-02-19].
14:07:55 <tlr> topic: minutes approval
14:08:03 <tlr> minutes from last meeting: http://www.w3.org/2008/02/05-xmlsec-minutes
14:08:07 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Feb/0013.htm
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14:08:32 <tlr> RESOLUTION: approved
14:08:55 <tlr> topic: xml sig 2nd ed
14:09:05 <tlr> fjh: no major comments, Thomas added links from N/A for IBM to explanation
14:09:10 <Zakim> +Ed_Simon
14:09:25 <tlr> ... would like to move forward into process ...
14:09:35 <tlr> ... step for wg is to seek transition to PER ...
14:09:45 <tlr> ... then transition meeting with director, AC, then transition to REC ...
14:09:49 <tlr> ... would like to get it started now ...
14:10:01 <tlr> PROPOSED: To seek transition of XML Signature to PER.
14:10:33 <brich> +1
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14:11:22 <tlr> RESOLUTION: To seek transition of XML Signature draft to PER.
14:11:50 <tlr> Topic: TEst case document as note
14:11:53 <PHB> [going off irc for a minute]
14:11:54 <tlr> fjh: Sean, you did some work on it
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14:12:01 <tlr> ... might need some status updates ...
14:12:05 <tlr> sean: haven't checked in
14:12:18 <tlr> ... fixed some things ...
14:12:45 <tlr> ... document contains relative URI references ...
14:12:49 <tlr> .... document needs context ...
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14:13:25 <tlr> tlr: umh. Either way should work.
14:13:33 <tlr> sean: would rather not spend time changing it.
14:13:39 <rdmiller> zakim, mute me
14:13:39 <Zakim> rdmiller should now be muted
14:13:45 <tlr> ... fjh, what do you mean by "references need adjustment" ...
14:13:55 <tlr> fjh: something looked wrong in my browser 
14:14:13 <tlr> ... will check again ...
14:14:35 <tlr> sean: shortname?
14:14:50 <tlr> fjh: thomas had a proposal
14:15:06 <tlr> xmldsig-tests, xmldsig2ed-tests
14:15:11 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Feb/0009.html
14:15:38 <Zakim> +??P8
14:15:45 <tlr> ed: would like it to be xmlsig not xmldsig for future version
14:15:48 <tlr> tlr: that's a different discussion
14:16:02 <tlr> fjh: xmldsig sounds good
14:16:07 <tlr> PROPOSED: xmldsig-tests
14:16:32 <tlr> fjh: let's not get it confused with 1st ed
14:16:35 <tlr> xmldsig2nded-tests
14:16:44 <tlr> xmldsiged2-tests
14:16:47 <fjh> PROPOSED: xmldsig2ed-tests
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14:17:18 <tlr> fjh: ed, opinions?
14:17:21 <tlr> ed: not opinionated
14:17:34 <tlr> +1 to xmldsig2ed-tests
14:17:58 <brich> +1
14:18:20 <EdS> +1
14:18:25 <tlr> RESOLUTION: to publish test suite document as Note, shortname xmldsig2ed-tests
14:18:53 <fjh> action: frederick to review test case references formatting issue
14:18:54 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-146 - Review test case references formatting issue [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2008-02-19].
14:19:36 <tlr> sean: need to do a few changes still
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14:19:39 <tlr> fjh: maybe check in now?
14:19:40 <tlr> tlr: +1
14:19:50 <tlr> sean: will take look after the meeting, check in then
14:20:57 <fjh> sean: will scribe next week
14:21:06 <fjh> Topic: EXI
14:21:19 <fjh> scribenick: fjh
14:21:35 <fjh> defer until next time when Juan Carlos on call
14:22:07 <fjh> Topic: Best Practices
14:22:12 <fjh> starting soon
14:23:41 <tlr> ScribeNick: tlr
14:23:44 <tlr> fjh: adjourned
14:23:46 <Zakim> -Hal_Lockhart
14:23:48 <Zakim> -Sean_Mullen
14:23:50 <Zakim> -brich
14:23:52 <Zakim> -Ed_Simon
14:24:00 <Zakim> -JohnWray
14:24:34 <Zakim> -??P8
14:24:38 <Zakim> -PHB
14:24:49 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:24:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see rdmiller (muted), Thomas, fjh
14:24:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see klanz2, PHB2, rdmiller, brich, fjh, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
14:25:05 <tlr> rrsagent, make log public
14:25:09 <tlr> rragent, draft minutes
14:25:18 <Zakim> -rdmiller
14:27:44 <Zakim> -fjh
14:27:58 <Zakim> -Thomas
14:28:00 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has ended
14:28:01 <Zakim> Attendees were Thomas, +01781492aaaa, rdmiller, fjh, JohnWray, PHB, brich, Sean_Mullen, Hal_Lockhart, Ed_Simon
14:28:31 <tlr> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:28:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-xmlsec-minutes.html tlr
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