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15:55:56 <Ralph> zakim, this will be swd
15:55:56 <Zakim> ok, Ralph, I see SW_SWD()11:00AM already started
15:56:00 <Ralph> zakim, who's on the call?
15:56:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P1
15:56:21 <Ralph> +Tom
15:56:36 <Ralph> Meeting: SWD WG
15:56:56 <Quentin> Quentin has joined #swd
15:56:56 <Ralph> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Feb/0041.html
15:57:13 <Zakim> +Ralph
15:57:24 <Zakim> +??P5
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15:57:32 <msporny> zakim, I am ??P5
15:57:32 <Zakim> +msporny; got it
15:57:50 <Zakim> + +0122427aaaa
15:58:08 <Ralph> zakim, aaaa is Quentin
15:58:08 <Zakim> +Quentin; got it
15:58:16 <Ralph> rrsagent, please make record public
15:58:39 <TomB> Regrets: Jon, Michael, Daniel, Elisa, Clay
15:58:41 <Ralph> Regrets: Jon, Michael, Daniel, Clay
15:58:52 <TomB> Regrets: Jon, Michael, Daniel, Elisa, Clay
15:59:35 <Zakim> +Guus_Schreiber
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16:00:26 <Alistair_Miles> Alistair_Miles has joined #swd
16:00:36 <Guus> Guus has joined #swd
16:00:40 <Zakim> +[LC]
16:00:52 <edsu> zakim, LC is edsu
16:00:52 <Zakim> +edsu; got it
16:01:39 <Zakim> + +31.20.420.aabb
16:01:53 <Antoine> Zakim, aabb is me
16:01:53 <Zakim> +Antoine; got it
16:03:01 <Zakim> +??P25
16:03:06 <Simone> Zakim,  ??P25 is me
16:03:08 <vit> Zakim, is P25 me
16:03:11 <Zakim> +??P38
16:03:21 <Zakim> +Simone; got it
16:03:29 <marghe> marghe has joined #swd
16:03:33 <Zakim> +??P42
16:03:33 <Ralph> zakim, ??p38 is Alistair
16:03:39 <Zakim> I don't understand 'is P25 me', vit
16:03:53 <Ralph> zakim, ??p25 is Vit
16:04:01 <Zakim> +Alistair; got it
16:04:19 <TomB> scribenick: Quentin
16:04:22 <TomB> Scribe: Quentin
16:04:27 <Ralph> zakim, ??p42 is Alistair
16:04:28 <Zakim> I already had ??P25 as Simone, Ralph
16:04:46 <Ralph> zakim, alistair is really Vit
16:05:14 <Zakim> +Alistair; got it
16:05:16 <Zakim> +??P53
16:05:17 <Ralph> zakim, ??p53 is Margherita
16:05:36 <Zakim> +Vit; got it
16:05:37 <Quentin> Topic:  Admin
16:05:54 <Quentin> PROPOSED to accept minutes of the Feb 5 telecon:
16:05:58 <Quentin> RESOLVED
16:06:05 <Zakim> +Margherita; got it
16:06:07 <Quentin> Next telecon on Feb 19th
16:06:17 <Quentin> ACTION: Chairs to put schedule review on agenda [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action24]
16:06:20 <Quentin> --continues
16:06:36 <Quentin> Topic: RDFa
16:07:05 <Quentin> Tom says that we should have reviewed RDFa before submitting but 
16:07:28 <Quentin> ...needing an email from the authors before the submission takes place
16:07:31 <berrueta> berrueta has joined #swd
16:07:55 <msporny> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Feb/0019.html
16:08:12 <Quentin> Guus informs it's not a submission problem, but it should be a note from the authors highlighting how the different review comments have been integrated
16:08:32 <Quentin> ...link to comments required
16:08:54 <Quentin> Tom says need an updated draft and response point before going any further
16:09:04 <edsu> there was also http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Feb/0027.html
16:09:11 <Quentin> ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
16:09:15 <Quentin> --continues
16:09:24 <Quentin> ACTION: Ben to prepare the email to request the decision for publishing on Feb 12th [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-minutes.html#action24]
16:09:26 <Quentin> --continues
16:09:59 <seanb> seanb has joined #swd
16:10:23 <Zakim> +Rodrigo
16:10:31 <berrueta> Zakim, Rodrigo is me
16:10:32 <Zakim> +berrueta; got it
16:10:57 <Quentin> Guus prefers reviews linked to parts in the revied editor draft
16:11:27 <Quentin> ACTION: Ralph to let the task force that SWD require extended response on editor's draft
16:11:55 <Quentin> Guus mentions that response shold link to specific comments by reviewers
16:12:30 <Quentin> New extended draft could have been by yesterday
16:12:35 <Zakim> +??P66
16:12:44 <seanb> zakim, ??P66 is seanb
16:12:44 <Zakim> +seanb; got it
16:12:59 <Ralph> s/force that/force know that/
16:13:39 <Quentin> Tom mentions that reviewers should have a look @ this response when made available
16:13:57 <Quentin> Guus say that this will be reviewed again next week
16:14:29 <Quentin> Last Thursday telecon informed that HTML2 task foce is happy with new version
16:14:49 <Quentin> s/telecon/RDFa telecon
16:15:52 <Quentin> HTML2 review is focused on different aspects than our task force (e.g. modalarity).
16:15:57 <Quentin> Topi: SKOS
16:16:05 <Quentin> s/Topi/Topic
16:16:21 <Quentin> SKOS Primer
16:16:38 <Ralph> Topic: SKOS Primer
16:16:48 <Quentin> Antoine sent a mail to move forward the SKOS primer to working draft
16:17:07 <Quentin> ...reviewers to comment on the revised version
16:17:18 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Feb/0040.html proposal to move SKOS Primer forward
16:17:25 <Quentin> ...Margherita has given more comments on the version
16:17:51 <Quentin> Guus asked Margherita to detail comments
16:18:24 <Quentin> Margherita mentions that her comments could be implemented in next version
16:18:41 <Ralph> Quentin: some of the points Margherita raised are quite important
16:18:53 <Ralph> ... especially moving to Turtle syntax
16:19:24 <Ralph> ... Antoine noted 4 points to consider but none should hold up publication of WD
16:19:59 <Ralph> Antoine: regarding Turtle vs. N3, the problem is just that the examples cited N3 but really only used Turtle
16:20:05 <Ralph> ... the latest editors' draft fixes this
16:20:21 <Ralph> Quentin: ok, then I agree this can be released as a WD
16:20:53 <aliman> +1
16:20:53 <edsu> Ralph++
16:20:57 <Ralph> Ralph: publishing should be like voting -- do it early and often :)
16:21:37 <Zakim> -Guus_Schreiber
16:21:39 <edsu> Ralph: diebold makes it so much easier these days
16:21:45 <Quentin> RESOLUTION: SKOS Primer to be published
16:22:10 <Antoine> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DraftPrimer, 12 Feb with turtle reference
16:22:32 <Zakim> +??P11
16:23:00 <Quentin> Antoine says that the last version on the Wiki has been updated (example and Turtle)
16:23:01 <Guus> zakim, ??P11  is Guus
16:23:01 <Zakim> +Guus; got it
16:23:17 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/DraftPrimer 12 Feb editor's draft
16:23:51 <Quentin> Ralph to take the 12th Feb version and go through publication process
16:24:20 <Quentin> ACTION: Ralph to publish Feb 12th version of SKOS primer as working draft
16:24:38 <Quentin> SKOS Reference
16:24:49 <Zakim> -Antoine
16:25:18 <Quentin> Tom raised a few questions wrt to deprecated properties mentioned in previous SKOS Core 
16:25:19 <Zakim> +Antoine
16:25:23 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Feb/0004.html "SKOS Core Vocabulary of 2005 - issues" [Tom 2008-02-04]
16:26:16 <Quentin> Sean says that we can produce a RDF version relatively easily
16:26:33 <Quentin> Alistair not sure how to cover the deprecated properties from SKOS Core
16:26:59 <Quentin> Tom mentions that the SKOS Reference replaces the previous SKOS Core published in 2005
16:27:13 <Quentin> ...no mention of existing RDF 
16:27:13 <Ralph> q+
16:27:14 <Guus> q+ to come back later in the agnda to RDFa (Last Call period)
16:27:41 <Quentin> Alistair says that need to create new namespace for the SKOS Reference
16:28:22 <Quentin> s/new namespace/reuse current namespace 
16:28:44 <Quentin> Tom to depracate several properties not present in the current SKOS Reference
16:29:10 <Quentin> ... these might need to be dropped and hence would not appear in the RDF namespace
16:29:44 <Quentin> ... if it is ok with SKOS community this could be done but shouldn't if people using the deprecated properties
16:30:43 <Quentin> ... SKOS Reference should point to RDF schema and explains why it's out of synch
16:31:02 <edsu> q+ to ask about subject indexing
16:32:00 <Quentin> Alistair asks whether he would be happy to mention that RDF files is to be done and that schema are not in synch
16:32:10 <Quentin> Tom agrees with this proposal
16:32:38 <Quentin> Alistair to add that to the next SKOS Reference editor's draft
16:33:18 <Quentin> Ralph says that the deprecated properties should be removed from namespace 
16:34:04 <Quentin> ... someone need to look @ the consequence would be to remove these deprecated properties 
16:34:25 <Ralph> Ralph: if we decide that the SKOS Specification makes no mention of the old deprecated properties, then those properties should also be removed from the namespace document
16:34:31 <Quentin> ... a proposal should ber made on how to handle this
16:35:04 <Quentin> ACTION: Sean to propose a way to handle deprecated properties (Updating RDF schema)
16:35:21 <Quentin> ACTION: Alistair to make a proposal for Issue 40 (Concept Coordination) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-minutes.html#action09]
16:35:24 <Quentin> --continues
16:35:32 <Quentin> ACTION: Alistair to propose an approach to clarify which aspects of the extension module should be in scope for the candidate recommendation package.  [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action09]
16:35:36 <Quentin> --continues
16:35:46 <Quentin> ACTION: Alistair and Guus to check the text in the primer on relationship between Concept Schemes and OWL Ontologies. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-minutes.html#action13]
16:35:49 <Quentin> --continues
16:36:41 <Quentin> ACTION: Ralph to check whether the common interpretation of rdfs isDefinedBy fits the reasoning that was made in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Oct/0141.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-swd-minutes.html#action10]
16:37:05 <Quentin> --continues
16:37:27 <Quentin> Alistair keeps highlighting that this property doesn't exit anymore
16:37:39 <Quentin> s/Alistair/Ralph
16:37:49 <Quentin> Alistair concurs
16:38:02 <Quentin> SKOS Issues
16:38:16 <Quentin> Tom highlights all issues to be still looked @
16:38:33 <Quentin> ... Alistair proposed a soltution to issue 41 but still open
16:38:41 <Quentin> s/41/31
16:38:55 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/31 issue 31
16:39:19 <Quentin> Alistair says that the resolution still stands and wonders whether it could be resolved today
16:39:26 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jan/0191.html issue 31 proposed resolution
16:39:30 <Antoine> +1
16:39:50 <Quentin> Tom, Alistair proposed that skos:preLabel should only have one value per language
16:40:16 <Quentin> ... says that it seems to be an adequate resolution
16:40:19 <seanb> +1
16:40:26 <Quentin> Antoine also supports this
16:40:50 <edsu> +1
16:41:17 <Guus> q?
16:41:44 <Quentin> RESOLVED ISSUE-31 is as per email (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jan/0191.html)
16:42:52 <Quentin> Margherita says that the resolution only covers one point of ISSUE-31
16:43:38 <Quentin> Alistair says statement S11 covers the number language and S10 covers clashes between mutliple similar value for skos:prefLabel
16:44:04 <Quentin> Ralph asks where the statement specifies specific aspect of solution
16:44:39 <Quentin> Alistair mention that a section covers potential logical problems 
16:45:29 <Quentin> ... section 1.6.1 speaks about formal constraints
16:46:31 <Quentin> Sean highlights that the resolution is clear but could still be considered as ambiguous
16:47:16 <Quentin> Ralph is ok with resolution but a seperate issue should be about the clarity of the document
16:48:16 <Quentin> ... seconds the resolution using the email from Alistair
16:48:25 <Guus> q+ on ftf need?
16:48:58 <Quentin> ISSUES 47
16:49:16 <Quentin> Antoine proposes two solutions to resolve this issue
16:49:20 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/47 issue 47
16:49:37 <Quentin> ... first relies on name class to express context
16:49:52 <Ralph> (Sean noted that issue 67 covers the 'clarity' question, and I agree)
16:50:02 <Quentin> ... second consist in adding a new resource for the mapping relation
16:50:48 <Quentin> ... explained both solution but hasn't investigated advantages and disadvantages of either
16:50:51 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Feb/0017.html Antoine's comments on issue 47
16:51:09 <Quentin> Guus still thinking about both solution and considers asking people outwith the group
16:51:58 <Zakim> edsu, you wanted to ask about subject indexing
16:52:49 <Quentin> Ed says a grop is using subject indexing but skos:subject are used
16:52:58 <TomB> q?
16:53:19 <Quentin> Alistair says these have not been formarly deprecated yet
16:53:29 <edsu> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jan/0180.html
16:54:01 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/54 issue 54
16:54:19 <Quentin> Alistair and Antoine thinks ISSUE 54 was resolved following the Amsterdam F-2-F
16:54:54 <Quentin> Antoine mentions that ISSUE 80 covers some aspects of ISSUE 54
16:54:56 <Ralph> Antoine: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/80 issue 80 carries forward the remaining parts of 54
16:55:16 <Quentin> ACTION: Antoine to propose a resoltuion for ISSUE 54 by next telecon
16:55:32 <Quentin> s/resoltuion/resolution
16:55:54 <Quentin> Alistair and Antoine to suggest priorities on different SKOS ISSUES to be resolved
16:56:29 <Quentin> ACTION: Alistair and Antoine to propose priorities on how to resolve ISSUE 56 to ISSUE 84
16:57:29 <Quentin> Topic: Recipes
16:57:35 <Quentin> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] 
16:57:38 <Quentin> --continues
16:57:45 <Quentin> ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20] 
16:57:48 <Quentin> --continues
16:58:00 <Quentin> Topic: VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT
16:58:27 <Quentin> ACTION: Vit and Elisa to include in the document all the target sections plus an allocation of sections to people and potentially a standard structure for sections [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/08-swd-minutes.html#action07]
16:58:36 <Quentin> --continues
16:58:59 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Feb/0020.html "New Editor's Draft Available" [Elis 2008-02-05]
16:59:09 <Quentin> Vit mentions that the list should make comment on the reviewed draft
16:59:23 <Quentin> Tom, this will be discussed next week
16:59:41 <Quentin> Topic: RDFa
16:59:46 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/Vocab/principles-20080204 04-Feb Vocab Management Editor's Draft
17:00:10 <Quentin> Guus says that we need to indicate that the next working draft is the last one and should be highlighted as suhc
17:00:25 <Quentin> ... no comment should be made on it afterwards
17:00:37 <Quentin> s/suhc/such
17:00:46 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2008/02/06-xhtml-minutes#item03 XHTML2 WG resolution 
17:01:24 <Quentin> ... last call document need to state deadline for comments
17:01:57 <Quentin> ... 4 to 6 weeks is the minimum time frame for comments
17:02:27 <Quentin> ACTION: Ralph to ask task force to recommend appropriate time frma
17:02:53 <Quentin> Topic: SKOS
17:03:09 <Quentin> Guus says that most work might be resolved by May 
17:03:26 <Ralph> [If an RDFa Last Call were published end of Feb, then 6 weeks puts us just before WWW2008]
17:03:28 <Quentin> ... proposes to hold a another f-2-f to solved final issues
17:03:47 <Ralph> s/sfrma/frame for RDFa Last Call review period/
17:04:27 <Quentin> ... one and half day meeting
17:04:40 <Quentin> ... 4-7th May 2008
17:05:09 <Zakim> -Vit
17:05:16 <Zakim> -msporny
17:05:17 <Zakim> -edsu
17:05:19 <Zakim> -Quentin
17:05:19 <Zakim> -berrueta
17:05:21 <Zakim> -Antoine
17:05:21 <Zakim> -Alistair.a
17:05:22 <Zakim> -Ralph
17:05:26 <Zakim> -seanb
17:05:26 <edsu> edsu has left #swd
17:05:32 <Zakim> -Margherita
17:05:34 <TomB> Quentin, you will finalize the notes?
17:05:37 <Zakim> -Guus
17:05:40 <Zakim> -Simone
17:05:43 <TomB> zakim, who is on the call?
17:05:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see TomB
17:05:50 <Zakim> -TomB
17:05:55 <Zakim> SW_SWD()11:00AM has ended
17:05:57 <Zakim> Attendees were TomB, Ralph, msporny, +0122427aaaa, Quentin, Guus_Schreiber, edsu, +31.20.420.aabb, Antoine, Simone, Vit, Margherita, berrueta, seanb, Guus
17:06:07 <Ralph> rrsagent, please draft minutes
17:06:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-minutes.html Ralph
17:07:09 <Ralph> Chair: Tom
17:07:10 <Ralph> rrsagent, please draft minutes
17:07:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-minutes.html Ralph
17:07:13 <Ralph> zakim, bye
17:07:13 <Zakim> Zakim has left #swd
17:07:26 <Antoine> Antoine has left #swd
17:07:32 <Ralph> rrsagent, bye
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> I see 16 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-actions.rdf :
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Chairs to put schedule review on agenda [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action24] [1]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-06-17
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [2]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-09-11
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to prepare the email to request the decision for publishing on Feb 12th [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-minutes.html#action24] [3]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-09-24
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph to let the task force that SWD require extended response on editor's draft [4]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-11-27
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph to publish Feb 12th version of SKOS primer as working draft [5]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-24-20
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sean to propose a way to handle deprecated properties (Updating RDF schema) [6]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-35-04
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Alistair to make a proposal for Issue 40 (Concept Coordination) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-minutes.html#action09] [7]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-35-21
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Alistair to propose an approach to clarify which aspects of the extension module should be in scope for the candidate recommendation package.  [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action09] [8]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-35-32
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Alistair and Guus to check the text in the primer on relationship between Concept Schemes and OWL Ontologies. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-minutes.html#action13] [9]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-35-46
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph to check whether the common interpretation of rdfs isDefinedBy fits the reasoning that was made in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Oct/0141.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-swd-minutes.html#action10] [10]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-36-41
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Antoine to propose a resoltuion for ISSUE 54 by next telecon [11]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-55-16
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Alistair and Antoine to propose priorities on how to resolve ISSUE 56 to ISSUE 84 [12]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-56-29
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]  [13]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-57-35
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]  [14]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-57-45
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Vit and Elisa to include in the document all the target sections plus an allocation of sections to people and potentially a standard structure for sections [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/08-swd-minutes.html#action07] [15]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T16-58-27
17:07:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph to ask task force to recommend appropriate time frma [16]
17:07:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/12-swd-irc#T17-02-27
17:07:51 <Quentin> I'm planning to do the note before leaving tonight