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13:31:21 <trackbot-ng> RRSAgent, make logs public
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13:31:23 <trackbot-ng> Zakim, this will be XMLSEC
13:31:23 <Zakim> ok, trackbot-ng; I see T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM scheduled to start in 29 minutes
13:31:24 <trackbot-ng> Meeting: XML Security Specifications Maintenance Working Group Teleconference
13:31:24 <trackbot-ng> Date: 05 February 2008
13:33:15 <fhirsch> Chair: Frederick Hirsch
13:33:44 <fhirsch> Scribe:Shivaram Mysore
13:34:06 <fhirsch> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Feb/0002.html
13:40:12 <fhirsch> Regrets:  Hal Lockhart, Thomas Roessler
13:51:15 <sean> sean has joined #xmlsec
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13:57:09 <shivaram> Zakim, this will be XMLSEC
13:57:09 <Zakim> ok, shivaram; I see T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
13:57:20 <shivaram> Meeting: XML Security Specifications Maintenance WG Conference Call
13:57:39 <fhirsch> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Feb/0002.html
13:57:51 <fhirsch> , who is here?
13:57:59 <fhirsch> zakim, who is here?
13:57:59 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has not yet started, fhirsch
13:58:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see shivaram, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fhirsch, trackbot-ng
13:58:30 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has now started
13:58:35 <fhirsch> zakim, who is here?
13:58:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see no one
13:58:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see shivaram, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fhirsch, trackbot-ng
13:58:37 <Zakim> +shivaram
13:58:47 <EdS> EdS has joined #xmlsec
13:59:02 <Zakim> +sean
13:59:11 <Zakim> +JohnWray
13:59:19 <fhirsch> zakim, what is the code?
13:59:19 <Zakim> the conference code is 965732 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), fhirsch
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13:59:43 <Zakim> +??P8
13:59:57 <fhirsch> zakim, who is here?
13:59:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see shivaram, sean, JohnWray, ??P8
13:59:59 <Zakim> On IRC I see jwray, EdS, shivaram, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fhirsch, trackbot-ng
14:00:26 <fhirsch> who is p8?
14:00:28 <jcc> jcc has joined #xmlsec
14:01:11 <fhirsch> zakim, who is here?
14:01:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see shivaram, sean, JohnWray, ??P8
14:01:11 <pdatta> pdatta has joined #xmlsec
14:01:13 <Zakim> On IRC I see jcc, jwray, EdS, shivaram, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fhirsch, trackbot-ng
14:01:33 <fhirsch> zakim, p8 is fhirsch
14:01:33 <Zakim> sorry, fhirsch, I do not recognize a party named 'p8'
14:01:53 <fhirsch> zakim, ??p8 is fhirsch
14:01:53 <Zakim> +fhirsch; got it
14:02:01 <fhirsch> zakim, who is here?
14:02:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see shivaram, sean, JohnWray, fhirsch
14:02:02 <Zakim> On IRC I see pdatta, jcc, jwray, EdS, shivaram, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fhirsch, trackbot-ng
14:02:26 <Zakim> +Ed_Simon
14:02:27 <Zakim> +[IBM]
14:02:30 <shivaram> zakim, mute me
14:02:30 <Zakim> shivaram should now be muted
14:02:37 <fhirsch> zakim, who is here?
14:02:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see shivaram (muted), sean, JohnWray, fhirsch, Ed_Simon, [IBM]
14:02:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see pdatta, jcc, jwray, EdS, shivaram, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fhirsch, trackbot-ng
14:02:45 <Zakim> +pdatta
14:02:48 <brich> brich has joined #xmlsec
14:02:57 <fhirsch> zakim,  [IBM] is brich
14:02:57 <Zakim> +brich; got it
14:03:03 <fhirsch> zakim,  who is here?
14:03:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see shivaram (muted), sean, JohnWray, fhirsch, Ed_Simon, brich, pdatta
14:03:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see brich, pdatta, jcc, jwray, EdS, shivaram, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fhirsch, trackbot-ng
14:04:10 <shivaram> Scribe: Shivaram Mysore
14:04:26 <shivaram> zakim, unmute me
14:04:26 <Zakim> shivaram should no longer be muted
14:04:47 <shivaram> zakim, mute me
14:04:47 <Zakim> shivaram should now be muted
14:05:11 <shivaram> TOPIC: Administrative
14:05:32 <fhirsch> http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-xmlsec-minutes
14:05:40 <fhirsch>  http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-xmlsec-minutes-public
14:05:59 <shivaram> RESOLUTION: 22 January minutes approved
14:06:08 <fhirsch> http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-xmlsec-minutes
14:06:19 <shivaram> RESOLUTION: 29 January minutes approved
14:06:39 <shivaram> TOPIC: XML Signature implementation report
14:06:42 <fhirsch> http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmldsig/report.html
14:07:40 <shivaram> zakim, unmute me
14:07:40 <Zakim> shivaram should no longer be muted
14:08:27 <shivaram> who is the speaker?
14:09:12 <brich> bruce rich was speaking
14:09:29 <jcc> Sorry for the delay: I am experiencing problems with Skype...
14:09:38 <shivaram> ACTION: all please send comments for Signature implementation report by next week
14:09:38 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - all
14:11:32 <shivaram> NOTE: All members should send comments for Signature implementation report by next week
14:11:51 <shivaram> TOPIC: Provide test suite to Apache - acceptability & timing
14:12:09 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0013.html
14:13:38 <sean> when is it ok to push tests to open source repositories for products that are based on open source?
14:14:23 <sean> FYI, tests for previous W3C xmldsig tests are already in Apache repository
14:14:26 <shivaram> fhirsch is already working on this by checking the copyright and licensing issues
14:14:56 <Zakim> +??P16
14:14:59 <sean> zakim, mute me
14:14:59 <Zakim> sean should now be muted
14:15:02 <shivaram> TOPIC: Next steps for progressing XML Signature, 2nd Edition to  Recommendation
14:15:15 <shivaram> review of http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/Drafts/xmldsig-core/explain.html
14:15:17 <fhirsch> zakim, ??P16 is jcc
14:15:17 <Zakim> +jcc; got it
14:15:45 <shivaram> Next week scribe is JCC
14:16:17 <fhirsch> fix explanation for 4.3.3.1
14:16:24 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xmlsec-commits/2008Feb/0000.html
14:17:11 <shivaram> NOTE: All please review explain doc by next week call
14:18:01 <shivaram> TOPIC: Progressing test case document to W3C Note
14:18:14 <shivaram> http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/testcases.html
14:19:04 <shivaram> Thanks Sean and all the other editors for the work on this
14:19:35 <sean> sure
14:19:37 <shivaram> ACTION: Sean clean up the doc - update styles, include other editors, check references and formatting.
14:19:38 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-143 - Clean up the doc - update styles, include other editors, check references and formatting. [on Sean Mullan - due 2008-02-12].
14:19:57 <fhirsch> shortname - e.g. "c14n11-xmlsig2-interop-tests"
14:20:14 <fhirsch> The syntax of a "This Version" URI must be <http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/ 
14:20:23 <fhirsch> NOTE-shortname-2008MMDD/>
14:20:35 <jcc> Q+
14:20:44 <fhirsch> ack jcc
14:21:18 <sean> i see it
14:21:19 <fhirsch> need to update link in document to w3c, currently link goes to etsi web site.
14:21:52 <sean> q+
14:21:57 <fhirsch> ack sean
14:21:58 <sean> zakim, unmute me
14:22:01 <Zakim> sean was not muted, sean
14:22:58 <sean> ok, I got it
14:23:01 <jcc> Sean, could you please update my email address to cruellas@ac.upc.edu in the interop test? thanks
14:23:25 <sean> yes
14:23:46 <sean> zakim, mute me
14:23:46 <Zakim> sean should now be muted
14:24:10 <fhirsch> http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/NOTE-ws-policy-primer-20071112/
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14:24:40 <shivaram> The above illustrates an example of short naming
14:25:09 <fhirsch>  "c14n11-xmlsig2-interop-tests"
14:25:30 <shivaram> The short name looks good for me
14:25:39 <shivaram> TOPIC: EXI
14:26:02 <sean> or maybe just xmlsig2-interop-tests
14:26:25 <sean> s/xmldsig/xmldsig
14:26:28 <shivaram> Comments from Juan Carlos: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/ 0049.html
14:26:30 <sean> s/xmlsig/xmldsig
14:26:33 <fhirsch> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0049.html
14:26:34 <shivaram> I like Sean's idea
14:27:15 <brich> +1
14:27:21 <fhirsch> +1
14:29:09 <fhirsch> Two comments: 1. attributes in xml namespace not discussed, 2. how are mapping tables populated?
14:30:19 <shivaram> ACTION: fhirsch will look into this and see if we need do anything and to get back to EXI group
14:30:19 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - fhirsch
14:30:31 <EdS> Since the core spec is called "XML Signature", not "XML Digital Signature", I prefer "xmlsig" (rather than "xmldsig") as our standard, universal shortname for "XML Signature".
14:31:10 <Zakim> +??P18
14:31:13 <klanz2> zakim, ? is klanz2
14:31:13 <Zakim> +klanz2; got it
14:31:41 <shivaram> ACTION: fhirsch will look into this and see if we need do anything and to get back to EXI group
14:31:41 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - fhirsch
14:32:22 <fhirsch> action - fhirsch will look into this and see if we need do anything and to get back to EXI group
14:32:30 <shivaram> NOTE: ACTION: fhirsch will look into this and see if we need do anything and to get back to EXI group
14:32:48 <sean> q+
14:32:57 <fhirsch> ack sean
14:33:42 <fhirsch> action-141 closed
14:34:06 <sean> i prefer xmldsig since that is what is used in the shortname URIs of the xml signatures specs (ex: http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/Drafts/xmldsig-core)
14:34:06 <fhirsch> ACTION-141 and ACTION-142 closed
14:34:07 <shivaram> NOTE: ACTION-141 CLOSED
14:35:20 <sean> its splitting hairs for me
14:35:51 <shivaram> the above was related to short naming
14:37:01 <shivaram> TOPIC: Any other business
14:37:15 <klanz2> thxc
14:37:24 <Zakim> -klanz2
14:37:25 <Zakim> -brich
14:37:26 <Zakim> -sean
14:37:27 <Zakim> -pdatta
14:37:28 <Zakim> -jcc
14:37:30 <Zakim> -Ed_Simon
14:37:30 <sean> exit
14:37:31 <Zakim> -JohnWray
14:37:47 <fhirsch> zakim, list participations
14:37:47 <Zakim> I don't understand 'list participations', fhirsch
14:37:53 <fhirsch> zakim, list participants
14:37:53 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been shivaram, sean, JohnWray, fhirsch, Ed_Simon, pdatta, brich, jcc, klanz2
14:38:09 <shivaram> RRSAgent, generate minutes
14:38:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/05-xmlsec-minutes.html shivaram
14:38:40 <fhirsch> RRSAgent, make log public
14:39:38 <Zakim> -fhirsch
14:39:41 <Zakim> -shivaram
14:39:42 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has ended
14:39:43 <Zakim> Attendees were shivaram, sean, JohnWray, fhirsch, Ed_Simon, pdatta, brich, jcc, klanz2
14:40:00 <fhirsch> zakim,bye
14:40:00 <Zakim> Zakim has left #xmlsec
14:40:08 <fhirsch> RRSAgent, bye
14:40:08 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/05-xmlsec-actions.rdf :
14:40:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: all please send comments for Signature implementation report by next week [1]
14:40:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/05-xmlsec-irc#T14-09-38
14:40:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sean clean up the doc - update styles, include other editors, check references and formatting. [2]
14:40:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/05-xmlsec-irc#T14-19-37
14:40:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: fhirsch will look into this and see if we need do anything and to get back to EXI group [3]
14:40:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/05-xmlsec-irc#T14-30-19
14:40:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: fhirsch will look into this and see if we need do anything and to get back to EXI group [4]
14:40:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/05-xmlsec-irc#T14-31-41