IRC log of xmlsec on 2008-02-05
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/02/05-xmlsec-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be XMLSEC
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- ok, trackbot-ng; I see T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM scheduled to start in 29 minutes
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- Meeting: XML Security Specifications Maintenance Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 05 February 2008
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- Chair: Frederick Hirsch
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- Scribe:Shivaram Mysore
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Feb/0002.html
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- Regrets: Hal Lockhart, Thomas Roessler
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- Zakim, this will be XMLSEC
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- ok, shivaram; I see T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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- Meeting: XML Security Specifications Maintenance WG Conference Call
- 13:57:39 [fhirsch]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Feb/0002.html
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- , who is here?
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- zakim, who is here?
- 13:57:59 [Zakim]
- T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has not yet started, fhirsch
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- On IRC I see shivaram, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fhirsch, trackbot-ng
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- T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has now started
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see no one
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- On IRC I see shivaram, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fhirsch, trackbot-ng
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- +shivaram
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- +sean
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- +JohnWray
- 13:59:19 [fhirsch]
- zakim, what is the code?
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- the conference code is 965732 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), fhirsch
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- +??P8
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- zakim, who is here?
- 13:59:57 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see shivaram, sean, JohnWray, ??P8
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- On IRC I see jwray, EdS, shivaram, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fhirsch, trackbot-ng
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- who is p8?
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see shivaram, sean, JohnWray, ??P8
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- On IRC I see jcc, jwray, EdS, shivaram, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fhirsch, trackbot-ng
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- zakim, p8 is fhirsch
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- sorry, fhirsch, I do not recognize a party named 'p8'
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- zakim, ??p8 is fhirsch
- 14:01:53 [Zakim]
- +fhirsch; got it
- 14:02:01 [fhirsch]
- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see shivaram, sean, JohnWray, fhirsch
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- On IRC I see pdatta, jcc, jwray, EdS, shivaram, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fhirsch, trackbot-ng
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- +Ed_Simon
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- +[IBM]
- 14:02:30 [shivaram]
- zakim, mute me
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- shivaram should now be muted
- 14:02:37 [fhirsch]
- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see shivaram (muted), sean, JohnWray, fhirsch, Ed_Simon, [IBM]
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- On IRC I see pdatta, jcc, jwray, EdS, shivaram, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fhirsch, trackbot-ng
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- +pdatta
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- zakim, [IBM] is brich
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- +brich; got it
- 14:03:03 [fhirsch]
- zakim, who is here?
- 14:03:03 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see shivaram (muted), sean, JohnWray, fhirsch, Ed_Simon, brich, pdatta
- 14:03:07 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see brich, pdatta, jcc, jwray, EdS, shivaram, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fhirsch, trackbot-ng
- 14:04:10 [shivaram]
- Scribe: Shivaram Mysore
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- zakim, unmute me
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- shivaram should no longer be muted
- 14:04:47 [shivaram]
- zakim, mute me
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- shivaram should now be muted
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- TOPIC: Administrative
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-xmlsec-minutes
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-xmlsec-minutes-public
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- RESOLUTION: 22 January minutes approved
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- http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-xmlsec-minutes
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- RESOLUTION: 29 January minutes approved
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- TOPIC: XML Signature implementation report
- 14:06:42 [fhirsch]
- http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmldsig/report.html
- 14:07:40 [shivaram]
- zakim, unmute me
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- shivaram should no longer be muted
- 14:08:27 [shivaram]
- who is the speaker?
- 14:09:12 [brich]
- bruce rich was speaking
- 14:09:29 [jcc]
- Sorry for the delay: I am experiencing problems with Skype...
- 14:09:38 [shivaram]
- ACTION: all please send comments for Signature implementation report by next week
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- Sorry, couldn't find user - all
- 14:11:32 [shivaram]
- NOTE: All members should send comments for Signature implementation report by next week
- 14:11:51 [shivaram]
- TOPIC: Provide test suite to Apache - acceptability & timing
- 14:12:09 [fhirsch]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0013.html
- 14:13:38 [sean]
- when is it ok to push tests to open source repositories for products that are based on open source?
- 14:14:23 [sean]
- FYI, tests for previous W3C xmldsig tests are already in Apache repository
- 14:14:26 [shivaram]
- fhirsch is already working on this by checking the copyright and licensing issues
- 14:14:56 [Zakim]
- +??P16
- 14:14:59 [sean]
- zakim, mute me
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- sean should now be muted
- 14:15:02 [shivaram]
- TOPIC: Next steps for progressing XML Signature, 2nd Edition to Recommendation
- 14:15:15 [shivaram]
- review of http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/Drafts/xmldsig-core/explain.html
- 14:15:17 [fhirsch]
- zakim, ??P16 is jcc
- 14:15:17 [Zakim]
- +jcc; got it
- 14:15:45 [shivaram]
- Next week scribe is JCC
- 14:16:17 [fhirsch]
- fix explanation for 4.3.3.1
- 14:16:24 [fhirsch]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xmlsec-commits/2008Feb/0000.html
- 14:17:11 [shivaram]
- NOTE: All please review explain doc by next week call
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- TOPIC: Progressing test case document to W3C Note
- 14:18:14 [shivaram]
- http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/interop/xmlsig-interop-doc/testcases.html
- 14:19:04 [shivaram]
- Thanks Sean and all the other editors for the work on this
- 14:19:35 [sean]
- sure
- 14:19:37 [shivaram]
- ACTION: Sean clean up the doc - update styles, include other editors, check references and formatting.
- 14:19:38 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-143 - Clean up the doc - update styles, include other editors, check references and formatting. [on Sean Mullan - due 2008-02-12].
- 14:19:57 [fhirsch]
- shortname - e.g. "c14n11-xmlsig2-interop-tests"
- 14:20:14 [fhirsch]
- The syntax of a "This Version" URI must be <http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/
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- NOTE-shortname-2008MMDD/>
- 14:20:35 [jcc]
- Q+
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- ack jcc
- 14:21:18 [sean]
- i see it
- 14:21:19 [fhirsch]
- need to update link in document to w3c, currently link goes to etsi web site.
- 14:21:52 [sean]
- q+
- 14:21:57 [fhirsch]
- ack sean
- 14:21:58 [sean]
- zakim, unmute me
- 14:22:01 [Zakim]
- sean was not muted, sean
- 14:22:58 [sean]
- ok, I got it
- 14:23:01 [jcc]
- Sean, could you please update my email address to cruellas@ac.upc.edu in the interop test? thanks
- 14:23:25 [sean]
- yes
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- zakim, mute me
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- sean should now be muted
- 14:24:10 [fhirsch]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/NOTE-ws-policy-primer-20071112/
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- 14:24:40 [shivaram]
- The above illustrates an example of short naming
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- "c14n11-xmlsig2-interop-tests"
- 14:25:30 [shivaram]
- The short name looks good for me
- 14:25:39 [shivaram]
- TOPIC: EXI
- 14:26:02 [sean]
- or maybe just xmlsig2-interop-tests
- 14:26:25 [sean]
- s/xmldsig/xmldsig
- 14:26:28 [shivaram]
- Comments from Juan Carlos: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/ 0049.html
- 14:26:30 [sean]
- s/xmlsig/xmldsig
- 14:26:33 [fhirsch]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0049.html
- 14:26:34 [shivaram]
- I like Sean's idea
- 14:27:15 [brich]
- +1
- 14:27:21 [fhirsch]
- +1
- 14:29:09 [fhirsch]
- Two comments: 1. attributes in xml namespace not discussed, 2. how are mapping tables populated?
- 14:30:19 [shivaram]
- ACTION: fhirsch will look into this and see if we need do anything and to get back to EXI group
- 14:30:19 [trackbot-ng]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - fhirsch
- 14:30:31 [EdS]
- Since the core spec is called "XML Signature", not "XML Digital Signature", I prefer "xmlsig" (rather than "xmldsig") as our standard, universal shortname for "XML Signature".
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- +??P18
- 14:31:13 [klanz2]
- zakim, ? is klanz2
- 14:31:13 [Zakim]
- +klanz2; got it
- 14:31:41 [shivaram]
- ACTION: fhirsch will look into this and see if we need do anything and to get back to EXI group
- 14:31:41 [trackbot-ng]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - fhirsch
- 14:32:22 [fhirsch]
- action - fhirsch will look into this and see if we need do anything and to get back to EXI group
- 14:32:30 [shivaram]
- NOTE: ACTION: fhirsch will look into this and see if we need do anything and to get back to EXI group
- 14:32:48 [sean]
- q+
- 14:32:57 [fhirsch]
- ack sean
- 14:33:42 [fhirsch]
- action-141 closed
- 14:34:06 [sean]
- i prefer xmldsig since that is what is used in the shortname URIs of the xml signatures specs (ex: http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/Drafts/xmldsig-core)
- 14:34:06 [fhirsch]
- ACTION-141 and ACTION-142 closed
- 14:34:07 [shivaram]
- NOTE: ACTION-141 CLOSED
- 14:35:20 [sean]
- its splitting hairs for me
- 14:35:51 [shivaram]
- the above was related to short naming
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- TOPIC: Any other business
- 14:37:15 [klanz2]
- thxc
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- -klanz2
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- -brich
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- -sean
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- -pdatta
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- -jcc
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- -Ed_Simon
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- exit
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- -JohnWray
- 14:37:47 [fhirsch]
- zakim, list participations
- 14:37:47 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'list participations', fhirsch
- 14:37:53 [fhirsch]
- zakim, list participants
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- As of this point the attendees have been shivaram, sean, JohnWray, fhirsch, Ed_Simon, pdatta, brich, jcc, klanz2
- 14:38:09 [shivaram]
- RRSAgent, generate minutes
- 14:38:09 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/05-xmlsec-minutes.html shivaram
- 14:38:40 [fhirsch]
- RRSAgent, make log public
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- -fhirsch
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- -shivaram
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- T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were shivaram, sean, JohnWray, fhirsch, Ed_Simon, pdatta, brich, jcc, klanz2
- 14:40:00 [fhirsch]
- zakim,bye
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- Zakim has left #xmlsec
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/05-xmlsec-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: all please send comments for Signature implementation report by next week [1]
- 14:40:08 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/05-xmlsec-irc#T14-09-38
- 14:40:08 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Sean clean up the doc - update styles, include other editors, check references and formatting. [2]
- 14:40:08 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/05-xmlsec-irc#T14-19-37
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- ACTION: fhirsch will look into this and see if we need do anything and to get back to EXI group [3]
- 14:40:08 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/05-xmlsec-irc#T14-30-19
- 14:40:08 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: fhirsch will look into this and see if we need do anything and to get back to EXI group [4]
- 14:40:08 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/05-xmlsec-irc#T14-31-41