08:10:00 RRSAgent has joined #databinding 08:10:00 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/02/01-databinding-irc 08:10:02 RRSAgent, make logs public 08:10:04 Zakim, this will be DBWG 08:10:04 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot-ng 08:10:05 Meeting: XML Schema Patterns for Databinding Working Group Teleconference 08:10:05 Date: 01 February 2008 08:44:02 JonC has joined #databinding 08:45:04 try again... Looking at GoogleBase xsd and sequence/any patterns being excluded because they have finite maxoccurs. Pattern seems to exclude this: //xs:sequence/xs:any[@processContents = 'lax' and (not (@minOccurs) or @minOccurs = '1' or @minOccurs = '0') and (not (@maxOccurs) or @maxOccurs = '1' or @maxOccurs='unbounded') and @namespace = '##targetNamespace']/ (., @processContents, @minOccurs, @maxOccurs, @namespace) 08:46:16 plus also fails because it has a specific google namespace assignment. simplify Pattern? all advanced anyway...... unless we are going to permit unbounded wildcards into basic at some point we could radically cut this to: .//xs:sequence/xs:any[@processContents = 'lax' ]/ (., @processContents, @minOccurs, @maxOccurs, @namespace) 10:31:09 Zakim has left #databinding 10:58:48 Zakim has joined #databinding 10:59:16 Topic: lc-haas-1 "Difficulty to read patterns as expressed with XPath 2.0" 10:59:53 pauld: Hugo correctly points out XPath 2.0 isn't well understood by some of our readership 11:00:02 .. suggest a primer 11:00:18 george: not well understood by me, either :) 11:01:27 pauld: suggest looking at our patterns. We could write an appendix or a primer 11:01:56 pauld: seems like a lot of work to me for us at this stage 11:02:14 jonc: appendix with "worked examples" should be enough 11:02:39 george: shouldn't be too long 11:02:47 pauld: any volunteers? 11:03:22 .. god way to understand it is to document it :) 11:03:34 should be me then... 11:04:05 pauld: seems like a very slippery slope 11:09:36 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/examples/6/09/SubstitutionGroup/Overview.html 11:23:48 pauld: suggest finding the idioms used in patterns.xml, enumerate them, then write one sentence on each referencing XPath 2.0 spec 11:25:46 ACTION: calladij to write an appendix on XPath idioms used in the specs 11:25:46 Sorry, couldn't find user - calladij 11:26:55 ACTION: jcalladi to write an appendix on XPath idioms used in the specs 11:26:55 Created ACTION-127 - Write an appendix on XPath idioms used in the specs [on Jonathan Calladine - due 2008-02-08]. 11:27:20 s/ACTION: calladij to write an appendix on XPath idioms used in the specs// 11:28:27 RESOLUTION: accepted lc-haas-1 XPath patterns primer to appear in Basic and Advanced as an appendix 11:29:09 Topic: Roundup 11:30:25 pauld: so we think Basic is mostly done, pending Jonc's appendix 11:30:47 .. a rerun of some of the toolkits would be nice to go to PR with 11:31:09 george: can look at that, the ones I can run at least 11:31:13 pauld: monday? 11:31:46 pauld: coverage is still a concern 11:32:16 pauld: will work on my annotated schema report for the collection, and add patterns this avo as a result 11:32:34 pauld: patterns detection service? 11:33:14 george: made a command line version, and a serverlet version 11:33:36 .. stylesheet is now separate 11:33:59 yves: will try to get that running monday 11:35:06 pauld: command line is useful, but service is going to drive adoption 11:37:56 OK, telcon on Tuesday to move both documents to Last Call 11:38:03 ==ADJOURNED== 11:38:13 rrsagent, generate minutes 11:38:13 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/01-databinding-minutes.html pauld 12:20:21 pauld has joined #databinding 13:13:32 Zakim has left #databinding