20:52:28 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 20:52:28 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-irc 20:52:34 zakim, conferences 20:52:34 I don't understand 'conferences', Christophe 20:52:37 zakim, conferences? 20:52:37 I don't understand your question, Christophe. 20:52:42 zakim, what conferences? 20:52:42 I see Team_(simile)20:10Z, GA_SVGWG()2:30PM, XML_SMLWG()2:00PM active 20:52:43 also scheduled at this time are WAI_EOWG(UMTF)2:00PM, XML_SMLWG(Editors)4:00PM, Team_(simile)19:55Z, WAI_WCAG()3:00PM 20:52:57 zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG 20:52:57 ok, Christophe; I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM scheduled to start 52 minutes ago 20:54:38 Loretta has joined #wai-wcag 20:55:02 Meeting: WAI WCAG Weekly Telecon 20:55:05 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2008JanMar/0038.html 20:55:38 Agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates 20:55:57 Agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 31 Jan 2008 - Survey: 20:56:14 Agenda+ Script Techniques for 31 Jan 2008 - Survey: 20:57:02 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started 20:57:09 + +1.443.996.aaaa 20:57:10 Regrets: Andi, Sofia, David, Roberto Ellero, Gregg 20:57:29 Hi, my regrets was for Roberto Scano 20:57:52 Opps - sorry, Roberto! I should have read the message more carefully 20:57:59 :) tx 20:59:44 +??P0 20:59:50 zakim, ??P0 is Ben_Caldwell 20:59:50 +Ben_Caldwell; got it 21:00:07 +Alex_Li 21:00:20 zakim, who is on the phone? 21:00:20 On the phone I see +1.443.996.aaaa, Ben_Caldwell, Alex_Li 21:00:42 zakim, +1.443.996.aaaa is Drew_LaHart 21:00:42 +Drew_LaHart; got it 21:00:57 +Loretta_Guarino_Reid 21:01:00 RRSAgent, make log world 21:01:05 Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon 21:01:11 Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid 21:01:18 ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly 21:01:28 +??P4 21:01:38 zakim, ??P4 is Roberto_Ellero 21:01:38 +Roberto_Ellero; got it 21:01:59 +??P5 21:02:11 zakim, ??p5 is Christophe_Strobbe 21:02:11 +Christophe_Strobbe; got it 21:02:29 +Cooper 21:04:36 Regrets- Roberto Ellero 21:04:46 + +0154558aabb 21:04:52 regrets+ Roberto_Scano 21:04:57 zakim, who is on the phone? 21:04:57 On the phone I see Drew_LaHart (muted), Ben_Caldwell, Alex_Li, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Roberto_Ellero, Christophe_Strobbe, Cooper, +0154558aabb 21:05:20 zakim, unmute Drew 21:05:22 Drew_LaHart should no longer be muted 21:06:07 Scribe: Christophe 21:06:12 +[Microsoft] 21:06:18 zakim, take up agendum 1 21:06:18 agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Christophe] 21:06:42 +Tim_Boland 21:07:04 zakim, [Microsoft] is Cynthia_Shelly 21:07:04 +Cynthia_Shelly; got it 21:07:22 PFWG looking for reviewers of ARIA best practices. 21:08:28 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2008JanMar/0038.html 21:09:06 zakim, take up agendum 2 21:09:06 agendum 2. "Miscellaneous Proposals for 31 Jan 2008 - Survey: " taken up [from Christophe] 21:09:49 Results: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20080131misc/results 21:10:31 +??P9 21:10:39 Topic: Issue 2375: Problems with H34 and H56 21:11:31 Resolution: unanimously accepted as proposed. 21:11:40 Topic: Issue 2400: SC 3.1.2 - "technical terms" definition and example 21:12:10 Nikolaos_Floratos has joined #wai-wcag 21:12:34 + +1.703.831.aacc 21:12:36 -Drew_LaHart 21:12:39 zakim, who is on the phone? 21:12:39 On the phone I see Ben_Caldwell, Alex_Li, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Roberto_Ellero, Christophe_Strobbe, Cooper, +0154558aabb, Cynthia_Shelly, Tim_Boland, ??P9, +1.703.831.aacc 21:13:30 Tim has joined #wai-wcag 21:14:15 Resolution: accepted as amended (proposal for Understanding doc) 21:15:18 Topic: Issue 2401: SC 3.1.2 - needs another exception 21:22:11 Écoutez notre podcast... 21:23:23 action: Christophe to create example with 'podcast' in French 21:23:57 Resolution: accepted as amended. 21:24:09 Topic: Issue 2406: ... absence of support for scripting or programmatic objects 21:24:23 +??P11 21:25:18 action: David to reword proposed response 21:25:54 Resolution: accepted as proposed pending David's action item 21:26:04 Topic: Issue 2407: Absence of success criterion for deprecated and obsolete features 21:30:17 Resolution: accepted as proposed 21:30:24 Issue 2408: ... markup/properties that prevent configuring pages/interfaces ... 21:31:20 action: David to reword proposed response 21:31:45 Resolution: accepted as proposed pending David's action item 21:31:55 Modifications to SCR24: Using script to open a new window on user request 21:32:10 Drew has joined #wai-wcag 21:32:10 -Alex_Li 21:32:13 Resolution: unanimously accepted as proposed 21:32:21 Addition to Intent of Understanding SC 1.4.8 request 21:33:59 +Alex_Li 21:34:25 Resolution: accepted as amended 21:34:57 Topic: Addition to Intent of Understanding SC 2.4.1, and removal of request 21:36:27 Resolution: accepted as amended. 21:36:37 Topic: Sufficient technique for 1.4.8: ... commonly-available user agents that can change the foreground ... 21:37:30 Resolution: accepted as amended. 21:37:41 Topic: Sufficient technique for 1.4.8: Specifying line spacing of 1.5 in CSS 21:42:39 action: David to add a description and to address the question whether it should be exactly or at least 1.5 21:42:58 Resolution: accepted as proposed pending David's action item 21:43:11 Topic: Sufficient technique for 1.4.8: Specifying alignment either to the left OR right in CSS 21:44:02 Resolution: accepted as amended. 21:44:15 Topic: Sufficient technique for 1.4.8: Not interfering with the user agent's reflow ... 21:46:29 +Bruce_Bailey 21:50:54 Resolution: leave open (change title to make it HTML-specific) 21:51:40 Topic: Sufficient technique for 1.4.8: Using ems to set the column width 21:52:21 +Drew_LaHart.a 21:52:23 -Drew_LaHart 21:53:43 Resolution: accepted as amended (remove predictability statement). 21:54:18 zakim, take up agendum 3 21:54:18 agendum 3. "Script Techniques for 31 Jan 2008 - Survey: " taken up [from Christophe] 21:54:29 Results: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20080131script/results 21:55:08 Topic: Sufficient technique for 1.3.1, 2.1.1, 2.1.3, 4.1.2: Modeling custom user interfaces in HTML semantics 21:57:50 bengt has joined #wai-wcag 21:58:47 ack c 21:58:48 +[IPcaller] 21:59:01 zakim, [IPcall is Bengt_Farre 21:59:01 +Bengt_Farre; got it 22:06:02 -Tim_Boland 22:08:44 -Nikolaos_Floratos 22:09:01 action: Cynthia, Gregg, Loretta, Michael and Ben to discuss where to discuss custom user interfaces in WCAG documents. 22:09:34 Resolution: leave open 22:09:46 Drew has joined #wai-wcag 22:09:47 Topic: Sufficient technique for 1.3.1, 1.3.3, 1.4.4, 2.1.1, 2.1.3, 4.1.2: Creating Attractive Buttons ... 22:15:53 action: Loretta and Cynthia to explore API test tool technique for "programmatically determined" 22:29:15 Resolution: keep remaining techniques open in order to get comments addressed. 22:29:53 WG members are encouraged to reread the techniques and to add comments. 22:33:33 -Alex_Li 22:33:34 -Katie_Haritos-Shea 22:33:36 -Cynthia_Shelly 22:33:37 -Bruce_Bailey 22:33:38 -Sean_Hayes 22:33:40 -Cooper 22:33:41 -Bengt_Farre 22:33:42 -Ben_Caldwell 22:33:43 -Drew_LaHart.a 22:33:44 -Christophe_Strobbe 22:33:47 rrsagent, make logs world 22:33:56 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 22:34:18 bengt has left #wai-wcag 22:34:20 rrsagent, generate minutes 22:34:20 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-minutes.html Christophe 22:36:46 Zakim, bye 22:36:46 leaving. As of this point the attendees were Ben_Caldwell, Alex_Li, Drew_LaHart, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Roberto_Ellero, Christophe_Strobbe, Cooper, +0154558aabb, Tim_Boland, 22:36:46 Zakim has left #wai-wcag 22:36:48 RRSAgent, bye 22:36:48 I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-actions.rdf : 22:36:48 ACTION: Christophe to create example with 'podcast' in French [1] 22:36:48 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-irc#T21-23-23 22:36:48 ACTION: David to reword proposed response [2] 22:36:48 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-irc#T21-25-18 22:36:48 ACTION: David to reword proposed response [3] 22:36:48 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-irc#T21-31-20 22:36:48 ACTION: David to add a description and to address the question whether it should be exactly or at least 1.5 [4] 22:36:48 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-irc#T21-42-39 22:36:48 ACTION: Cynthia, Gregg, Loretta, Michael and Ben to discuss where to discuss custom user interfaces in WCAG documents. [5] 22:36:48 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-irc#T22-09-01 22:36:48 ACTION: Loretta and Cynthia to explore API test tool technique for "programmatically determined" [6] 22:36:48 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-irc#T22-15-53 22:36:49 ... Cynthia_Shelly, +1.703.831.aacc, Sean_Hayes?, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Sean_Hayes, Nikolaos_Floratos, Bruce_Bailey, [IPcaller], Bengt_Farre