IRC log of wai-wcag on 2008-01-31

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20:52:34 [Christophe]
zakim, conferences
20:52:34 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'conferences', Christophe
20:52:37 [Christophe]
zakim, conferences?
20:52:37 [Zakim]
I don't understand your question, Christophe.
20:52:42 [Christophe]
zakim, what conferences?
20:52:42 [Zakim]
I see Team_(simile)20:10Z, GA_SVGWG()2:30PM, XML_SMLWG()2:00PM active
20:52:43 [Zakim]
also scheduled at this time are WAI_EOWG(UMTF)2:00PM, XML_SMLWG(Editors)4:00PM, Team_(simile)19:55Z, WAI_WCAG()3:00PM
20:52:57 [Christophe]
zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
20:52:57 [Zakim]
ok, Christophe; I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM scheduled to start 52 minutes ago
20:54:38 [Loretta]
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20:55:02 [Christophe]
Meeting: WAI WCAG Weekly Telecon
20:55:05 [Christophe]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2008JanMar/0038.html
20:55:38 [Christophe]
Agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
20:55:57 [Christophe]
Agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 31 Jan 2008 - Survey: <http://tinyurl.com/2r7uub>
20:56:14 [Christophe]
Agenda+ Script Techniques for 31 Jan 2008 - Survey: <http://tinyurl.com/yoe79k>
20:57:02 [Zakim]
WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
20:57:09 [Zakim]
+ +1.443.996.aaaa
20:57:10 [Loretta]
Regrets: Andi, Sofia, David, Roberto Ellero, Gregg
20:57:29 [rellero]
Hi, my regrets was for Roberto Scano
20:57:52 [Loretta]
Opps - sorry, Roberto! I should have read the message more carefully
20:57:59 [rellero]
:) tx
20:59:44 [Zakim]
+??P0
20:59:50 [Ben]
zakim, ??P0 is Ben_Caldwell
20:59:50 [Zakim]
+Ben_Caldwell; got it
21:00:07 [Zakim]
+Alex_Li
21:00:20 [Ben]
zakim, who is on the phone?
21:00:20 [Zakim]
On the phone I see +1.443.996.aaaa, Ben_Caldwell, Alex_Li
21:00:42 [Ben]
zakim, +1.443.996.aaaa is Drew_LaHart
21:00:42 [Zakim]
+Drew_LaHart; got it
21:00:57 [Zakim]
+Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:01:00 [Ben]
RRSAgent, make log world
21:01:05 [Ben]
Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
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Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:01:18 [Ben]
ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
21:01:28 [Zakim]
+??P4
21:01:38 [rellero]
zakim, ??P4 is Roberto_Ellero
21:01:38 [Zakim]
+Roberto_Ellero; got it
21:01:59 [Zakim]
+??P5
21:02:11 [Christophe]
zakim, ??p5 is Christophe_Strobbe
21:02:11 [Zakim]
+Christophe_Strobbe; got it
21:02:29 [Zakim]
+Cooper
21:04:36 [Ben]
Regrets- Roberto Ellero
21:04:46 [Zakim]
+ +0154558aabb
21:04:52 [Ben]
regrets+ Roberto_Scano
21:04:57 [Loretta]
zakim, who is on the phone?
21:04:57 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Drew_LaHart (muted), Ben_Caldwell, Alex_Li, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Roberto_Ellero, Christophe_Strobbe, Cooper, +0154558aabb
21:05:20 [Ben]
zakim, unmute Drew
21:05:22 [Zakim]
Drew_LaHart should no longer be muted
21:06:07 [Christophe]
Scribe: Christophe
21:06:12 [Zakim]
+[Microsoft]
21:06:18 [Christophe]
zakim, take up agendum 1
21:06:18 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Christophe]
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+Tim_Boland
21:07:04 [Ben]
zakim, [Microsoft] is Cynthia_Shelly
21:07:04 [Zakim]
+Cynthia_Shelly; got it
21:07:22 [Christophe]
PFWG looking for reviewers of ARIA best practices.
21:08:28 [Ben]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2008JanMar/0038.html
21:09:06 [Christophe]
zakim, take up agendum 2
21:09:06 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Miscellaneous Proposals for 31 Jan 2008 - Survey: <http://tinyurl.com/2r7uub>" taken up [from Christophe]
21:09:49 [Christophe]
Results: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20080131misc/results
21:10:31 [Zakim]
+??P9
21:10:39 [Christophe]
Topic: Issue 2375: Problems with H34 and H56
21:11:31 [Christophe]
Resolution: unanimously accepted as proposed.
21:11:40 [Christophe]
Topic: Issue 2400: SC 3.1.2 - "technical terms" definition and example
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+ +1.703.831.aacc
21:12:36 [Zakim]
-Drew_LaHart
21:12:39 [Ben]
zakim, who is on the phone?
21:12:39 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Ben_Caldwell, Alex_Li, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Roberto_Ellero, Christophe_Strobbe, Cooper, +0154558aabb, Cynthia_Shelly, Tim_Boland, ??P9, +1.703.831.aacc
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21:14:15 [Christophe]
Resolution: accepted as amended (proposal for Understanding doc)
21:15:18 [Christophe]
Topic: Issue 2401: SC 3.1.2 - needs another exception
21:22:11 [MichaelC]
Écoutez notre podcast...
21:23:23 [Christophe]
action: Christophe to create example with 'podcast' in French
21:23:57 [Christophe]
Resolution: accepted as amended.
21:24:09 [Christophe]
Topic: Issue 2406: ... absence of support for scripting or programmatic objects
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+??P11
21:25:18 [Christophe]
action: David to reword proposed response
21:25:54 [Christophe]
Resolution: accepted as proposed pending David's action item
21:26:04 [Christophe]
Topic: Issue 2407: Absence of success criterion for deprecated and obsolete features
21:30:17 [Christophe]
Resolution: accepted as proposed
21:30:24 [Christophe]
Issue 2408: ... markup/properties that prevent configuring pages/interfaces ...
21:31:20 [Christophe]
action: David to reword proposed response
21:31:45 [Christophe]
Resolution: accepted as proposed pending David's action item
21:31:55 [Christophe]
Modifications to SCR24: Using script to open a new window on user request
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-Alex_Li
21:32:13 [Christophe]
Resolution: unanimously accepted as proposed
21:32:21 [Christophe]
Addition to Intent of Understanding SC 1.4.8 request
21:33:59 [Zakim]
+Alex_Li
21:34:25 [Christophe]
Resolution: accepted as amended
21:34:57 [Christophe]
Topic: Addition to Intent of Understanding SC 2.4.1, and removal of request
21:36:27 [Christophe]
Resolution: accepted as amended.
21:36:37 [Christophe]
Topic: Sufficient technique for 1.4.8: ... commonly-available user agents that can change the foreground ...
21:37:30 [Christophe]
Resolution: accepted as amended.
21:37:41 [Christophe]
Topic: Sufficient technique for 1.4.8: Specifying line spacing of 1.5 in CSS
21:42:39 [Christophe]
action: David to add a description and to address the question whether it should be exactly or at least 1.5
21:42:58 [Christophe]
Resolution: accepted as proposed pending David's action item
21:43:11 [Christophe]
Topic: Sufficient technique for 1.4.8: Specifying alignment either to the left OR right in CSS
21:44:02 [Christophe]
Resolution: accepted as amended.
21:44:15 [Christophe]
Topic: Sufficient technique for 1.4.8: Not interfering with the user agent's reflow ...
21:46:29 [Zakim]
+Bruce_Bailey
21:50:54 [Christophe]
Resolution: leave open (change title to make it HTML-specific)
21:51:40 [Christophe]
Topic: Sufficient technique for 1.4.8: Using ems to set the column width
21:52:21 [Zakim]
+Drew_LaHart.a
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-Drew_LaHart
21:53:43 [Christophe]
Resolution: accepted as amended (remove predictability statement).
21:54:18 [Christophe]
zakim, take up agendum 3
21:54:18 [Zakim]
agendum 3. "Script Techniques for 31 Jan 2008 - Survey: <http://tinyurl.com/yoe79k>" taken up [from Christophe]
21:54:29 [Christophe]
Results: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20080131script/results
21:55:08 [Christophe]
Topic: Sufficient technique for 1.3.1, 2.1.1, 2.1.3, 4.1.2: Modeling custom user interfaces in HTML semantics
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ack c
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+[IPcaller]
21:59:01 [bengt]
zakim, [IPcall is Bengt_Farre
21:59:01 [Zakim]
+Bengt_Farre; got it
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-Tim_Boland
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-Nikolaos_Floratos
22:09:01 [Christophe]
action: Cynthia, Gregg, Loretta, Michael and Ben to discuss where to discuss custom user interfaces in WCAG documents.
22:09:34 [Christophe]
Resolution: leave open
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Topic: Sufficient technique for 1.3.1, 1.3.3, 1.4.4, 2.1.1, 2.1.3, 4.1.2: Creating Attractive Buttons ...
22:15:53 [Christophe]
action: Loretta and Cynthia to explore API test tool technique for "programmatically determined"
22:29:15 [Christophe]
Resolution: keep remaining techniques open in order to get comments addressed.
22:29:53 [Christophe]
WG members are encouraged to reread the techniques and to add comments.
22:33:33 [Zakim]
-Alex_Li
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-Katie_Haritos-Shea
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-Cynthia_Shelly
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-Bruce_Bailey
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-Sean_Hayes
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-Cooper
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-Bengt_Farre
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-Ben_Caldwell
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-Drew_LaHart.a
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-Christophe_Strobbe
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rrsagent, make logs world
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-Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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22:34:20 [Christophe]
rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-minutes.html Christophe
22:36:46 [Ben]
Zakim, bye
22:36:46 [Zakim]
leaving. As of this point the attendees were Ben_Caldwell, Alex_Li, Drew_LaHart, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Roberto_Ellero, Christophe_Strobbe, Cooper, +0154558aabb, Tim_Boland,
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22:36:48 [Ben]
RRSAgent, bye
22:36:48 [RRSAgent]
I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
22:36:48 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Christophe to create example with 'podcast' in French [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-irc#T21-23-23
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ACTION: David to reword proposed response [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-irc#T21-25-18
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ACTION: David to reword proposed response [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-irc#T21-31-20
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ACTION: David to add a description and to address the question whether it should be exactly or at least 1.5 [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-irc#T21-42-39
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ACTION: Cynthia, Gregg, Loretta, Michael and Ben to discuss where to discuss custom user interfaces in WCAG documents. [5]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-irc#T22-09-01
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ACTION: Loretta and Cynthia to explore API test tool technique for "programmatically determined" [6]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/31-wai-wcag-irc#T22-15-53
22:36:49 [Zakim]
... Cynthia_Shelly, +1.703.831.aacc, Sean_Hayes?, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Sean_Hayes, Nikolaos_Floratos, Bruce_Bailey, [IPcaller], Bengt_Farre