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13:56:31 zakim, this will be xhtml
13:56:31 ok, Steven; I see IA_XHTML2()9:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
13:56:49 zakim, feature request
13:56:49 I don't understand 'feature request', Steven
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14:00:35 Meeting: XHTML2 Weekly Teleconference
14:00:38 Chair: Roland
14:00:46 zakim, dial steven-617
14:00:46 ok, Steven; the call is being made
14:00:47 +Steven
14:01:19 +??P7
14:01:26 zakim, ?P7 is yamx
14:01:26 sorry, yamx, I do not recognize a party named '?P7'
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14:01:36 zakim, ??P7 is yamx
14:01:36 +yamx; got it
14:01:53 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jan/0036
14:01:58 Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jan/0036
14:02:32 zakim, code
14:02:32 I don't understand 'code', ShaneM_
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14:03:07 zakim, what is the code
14:03:07 I don't understand 'what is the code', ShaneM_
14:03:18 FtF info: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/2007-02-Venice-FtF
14:03:27 zakim, code?
14:03:27 the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Steven
14:03:36 Zakim loves question marks
14:03:44 zakim sucks
14:04:06 + +1.763.767.aaaa
14:04:14 zakim, aaaa is ShaneM_
14:04:14 +ShaneM_; got it
14:04:18 I think it ought to be more accepting of questions without the marks
14:04:30 +gshults
14:04:46 zakim, who is here?
14:04:46 On the phone I see Roland, Steven, yamx, ShaneM_, gshults
14:04:47 On IRC I see alessio, markbirbeck, gshults, Roland, RRSAgent, Zakim, Steven, yamx, Tina, myakura, Lachy, ShaneM_, krijnh
14:05:03 Scribe: Steven
14:06:59 Regrets: Gregory
14:07:36 rrsagent, make minutes
14:07:36 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
14:08:11 Topic: Announcements
14:10:25 +??P10
14:10:43 Steven: I read the selectors API spec
14:10:46 ... no real comments
14:10:55 -??P10
14:11:01 ACTION: Steven to send response on selctors API
14:11:37 FtF info: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/2007-02-Venice-FtF
14:11:43 Topic: FtF
14:12:29 Steven: Please fill in the form even if you can't come
14:12:55 zakim, code?
14:12:55 the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
14:13:17 +??P10
14:13:22 zakim, i am ?
14:13:22 +markbirbeck; got it
14:14:07 zakim, who is here?
14:14:07 On the phone I see Roland, Steven, yamx, ShaneM_, gshults, markbirbeck
14:14:08 On IRC I see markbirbeck, gshults, Roland, RRSAgent, Zakim, Steven, yamx, Tina, myakura, Lachy, ShaneM_, krijnh
14:14:27 Yam: Do we really have a three day agenda?
14:14:37 Roland: I definitely think there is 3 days of work on XHTML2
14:14:48 ... and there is surelky other work to do
14:15:51 Gerrie: Will ther eonly be IRC?
14:15:57 Steven: Also Skype to my id
14:16:12 Topic: ARIA
14:16:24 Roland: Neither RIck or Gregory here today
14:16:30 Steven: I was expecting Rich today
14:16:56 Roland: He had sent regrets for the last weeks, maybe he's travelling
14:17:01 Topic: M12N
14:17:13 Steven: I have sent the transition request off, so it's in the pipeline
14:17:19 Topic: RDFa
14:17:34 Roland: Shane has pointed out the new draft on the Drafts page
14:17:56 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/#rdfa-syntax
14:18:06 Shane: Lots of changing, all diff marked
14:18:15 ... we need to resolve to send it to last call
14:18:31 ... there is an issue we have to take a decision on
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14:19:04 ... we used values for @rel and @property from
14:19:14 ... XHTML2
14:19:22 ... and these are enumerated in the spec
14:19:37 sorry but I'm having serious trouble in connection, trying to rejoin
14:20:11 ... the chair of the TF has said that it is our decision about extending these
14:20:25 Shane: This is section 9
14:20:43 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-rdfa-syntax-20080125/#s_metaAttributes
14:21:24 +??P11
14:21:53 zakim, +P11 is Alessio
14:21:53 sorry, alessio, I do not recognize a party named '+P11'
14:21:58 zakim, +??P11 is Alessio
14:21:58 sorry, alessio, I do not recognize a party named '+??P11'
14:22:08 zakim, ??P11 is Alessio
14:22:08 +Alessio; got it
14:23:14 Steven: We are grandfathering them in from XHTML1
14:25:20 there is an issue with the use of non-xhtml defined values (e.g., nofollow) - since these values are not defined they will not by default generate triples in XHTML+RDFa
14:26:25 Steven: The only problem area is when peoiple use values outside this list
14:26:29 ... such as nofoloow
14:26:43 s/nofolooe/nofollow/
14:27:03 Shane: Traditionally you can use other values if you use @profile
14:27:08 Roland: Any other comments?
14:27:19 Shane: There is as yet no schema implementation
14:28:40 ... but there is no problem with adding a schema later
14:29:07 Roland: Who do we want to comment on it at last call?
14:31:06 Steven: We can ask at HCG if HTML5 are interested. DanC is chair, and he has interest
14:31:52 Mark: The Semweb people are going to vote to take this to LC on 9th Feb
14:32:00 ... if we can match that that would be good
14:33:49 I do not
14:34:16 Steven: Since this document is produced by people from this group I would propoise that we take this as a recomendation to go to last call, and that anyone who wants more time should speak up now, otherwise we resolve
14:34:26 Roland: Let's make that resolution next wekk
14:34:37 ... this is due warning for people to review it this week
14:34:46 s.wekk/week/
14:35:09 Topic: XHTML 1.1 SE
14:35:18 Roland: Any change on this?
14:35:24 ... We talked about it last week\
14:35:33 Shane: I update the draft
14:35:56 Roland: so we are just waiting on M12N
14:36:27 Topic: Bug in Basic
14:36:29 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jan/0029.html
14:37:00 ACTION: Shane to check
14:37:12 s/check/check bug in Basic 1.1/
14:37:51 Shane: hr is Basic right?
14:37:54 Steven: Yes
14:38:27 rrsagent, make minutes
14:38:27 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
14:39:03 Topic: Role comments
14:39:22 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jan/0032.html
14:42:12 Steven: We don't require a DTD, jsut M12n
14:42:34 Shane: You have to interface to one of our normative implementations of M12N, so that includes DTD
14:42:53 Steven: How about: "XHTML doesn't
14:42:53 > really envision the idea of adding attributes to a document after it is
14:42:53 > loaded (after DOMready or the LOAD event fires)."
14:42:58 Steven: Do we agree?
14:43:02 Roland: No
14:49:03 Shane: We don't say anything about it
14:49:14 Steven: But it is part of the real world expectations of XHTML
14:51:25 ... I don't think any spec requires the DOM tree to remain conformant wit the DTD/schema
14:56:18 Steven: I see now. He is interpreting this as a syntax+DOM spec. BUt it is actually just a syntax spec
14:56:35 Shane: Another question he has, about what happens when role has more than one value
15:01:13 -Alessio
15:01:41 ... and about non-prefixed values that aren;'t in our set
15:02:47 Steven: Either leave it to the host languag, or require it to be ignored
15:03:02 ... and if we make a decision we have to add it to the spec
15:03:26 Steven: We ignore similar rel values don't we?
15:03:30 Mark: We do now
15:03:39 rel ::= (linktype | CURIE)*
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15:04:15 Steven: We may as well do the same for role
15:04:44 ... it would be consistent
15:04:54 Mark: They should come from the same taxonomy
15:05:09 ... since a role ccould have a rel value
15:05:16 s/cc/c/
15:06:10 RESOLUTION: non prefixed role values not in the standard list should be ignored
15:06:10 -ShaneM_
15:06:11 -Roland
15:06:12 -markbirbeck
15:06:13 -gshults
15:06:17 -Steven
15:06:20 -yamx
15:06:22 IA_XHTML2()9:00AM has ended
15:06:23 Attendees were Roland, Steven, yamx, +1.763.767.aaaa, ShaneM_, gshults, markbirbeck, Alessio
15:06:39 rrsagent, make minutes
15:06:39 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
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