<trackbot-ng> Date: 30 January 2008

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<scribe> scribe: pauld

need to review where we are, fresh pairs of eyes helps!

I want to make sure the WG page is more understandable

couldn't find a link to the detection service - it exisits?

http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/

that page should point to the schematron, stylesheet the online and command line versions

yves: I'll work on fixing the online version

pauld: concerned how quickly we can redeploy that when we change / add patterns
... goal for this week is to publish LC WDs of Basic and Advanced!
... so we can stop cleaning this vendor toilet :)

procedurally, we don't need to answer our own last call comments because we're going for another LC!

we've processed all our LC issues, but there is one we haven't processed

yves: Adrian ran most of our tests, can we re-run

pauld: it's in CVS, but he's not available and has rebuilt his environment, so would have to reinstall WCF etc

george: can take a quick look

pauld: OK, I don't want to lose this meeting to re-running tests for Advanced, or low-priority Basic patterns

george: testing can always be done offline

pauld: want to review specs, and hunt for patterns in the wild

yves: we need a command line version

pauld: OK, so you guys work on the detection service, make the online service link to our page which will have source code, stylesheet, etc, etc
... we need to answer one LC comment - lc-haas-1 on making the XPaths understandable
... need to incorporate Jon's examples: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xsd-databinding/2007Oct/0001.html
... want to hunt for more patterns 'in the wild' from our collection
... no link to http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/collection/ from WG page!
... that page is missing this output: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/collection/
... I'll work on making the report more credible, Jon will want to help there too, no doubt
... we need to review http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/advanced/advanced.html#schemasummary
... am concerned that xs:date etc aren't "Advanced" we need to remember why and give a non-normative one-line explanation
... think it's OK for Basic to be N/A, but Advanced should explain

george: for all of them?

pauld: just the types
... I'll do that work and the WG can review it
... it might be nice to rerun the tests, at least for the kits we can

george: can run 12 or so

yves: will make sure we communicate the difference between not running a test because we didn't run it, and not running a test because the tool barfed

<gcowe> patterns detector source code can found in http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/PatternsDetector.zip - this contains the .war file

pauld: is there a process for generating that - an ant file?

gcowe: that includes `
... an old stylesheet - can remove that

pauld: can we make an ant task to generate that, command line and war together?
... OK to include a stylesheet if it's regenerated when we change patterns.xml

ISSUE-12: identifying a conformant schema

george: built a command line version of the patterns detector

<gcowe> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/client/

<gcowe> contains java executables for detecting patterns in schema or WSDL and can be run on client machine

pauld: looks great, can we add a link to the detector page, and fix the service?

discussion of a version number for the stylesheet in the report.

pauld: sounds like a lot of work to add it, and of little value given each pattern reported is uniquely named and versioned

george: will add a link on the collection page

<Yves> ***** NoTargetNamespace [PENDING]

<Yves> ***** AnySimpleTypeElement [PENDING]

<Yves> ***** HexBinaryElement [PENDING]

<Yves> ***** HexBinaryAttribute [PENDING]

<Yves> ***** UnionSimpleDateString [PENDING]

<Yves> ***** PrecisionDecimal [PENDING]

<Yves> ***** SOAPEncodedArray [PENDING]

<Yves> ***** AttributeGroup [PENDING]

<Yves> pending... basic? advanced? removed?

we should review the status of patterns as a whole, tomorrow afternoon. Let's just work on coverage for now

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2008Jan/att-0003/process.jpg

<gcowe> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/detector/ now contain information on running the client side executable jar to carry out detection of patterns in schema and WSDL

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