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13:33:23 <trackbot-ng> RRSAgent, make logs public
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13:33:25 <trackbot-ng> Zakim, this will be XMLSEC
13:33:25 <Zakim> ok, trackbot-ng; I see T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM scheduled to start in 27 minutes
13:33:26 <trackbot-ng> Meeting: XML Security Specifications Maintenance Working Group Teleconference
13:33:26 <trackbot-ng> Date: 29 January 2008
13:44:27 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0045.html
13:44:37 <fjh> Chair: Frederick Hirsch
13:44:51 <fjh> Scribe: John Wray
13:53:43 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has now started
13:53:50 <Zakim> +JohnWray
13:53:58 <fjh> zakim, what is the code?
13:53:58 <Zakim> the conference code is 965732 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), fjh
13:55:03 <sean> sean has joined #xmlsec
13:55:36 <Zakim> +Frederick_Hirsch
13:58:54 <pdatta> pdatta has joined #xmlsec
13:58:55 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
13:58:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see JohnWray, Frederick_Hirsch
13:58:56 <Zakim> On IRC I see pdatta, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, jwray, tlr, trackbot-ng
13:59:02 <Zakim> +Ed_Simon
13:59:28 <hal> hal has joined #xmlsec
14:00:07 <tlr> zakim, call thomas-781
14:00:07 <Zakim> ok, tlr; the call is being made
14:00:09 <Zakim> +Thomas
14:00:30 <Zakim> +Hal
14:00:35 <Zakim> + +1.617.876.aaaa
14:01:05 <jwray> TOPIC: Administative
14:01:34 <fjh> rrsagent, aaaa is sean
14:01:34 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'aaaa is sean', fjh.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:01:50 <tlr> zakim, aaaa is sean
14:01:50 <Zakim> +sean; got it
14:01:51 <fjh> zakim, aaaa is sean
14:01:51 <Zakim> sorry, fjh, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
14:01:52 <Zakim> +[IBM]
14:01:54 <EdS> EdS has joined #xmlsec
14:02:13 <tlr> zakim, IBM has brich
14:02:13 <Zakim> +brich; got it
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14:02:25 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:02:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see JohnWray, Frederick_Hirsch, Ed_Simon, Thomas, Hal, sean, [IBM]
14:02:28 <Zakim> [IBM] has brich
14:02:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see EdS, hal, pdatta, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, jwray, tlr, trackbot-ng
14:02:46 <brich> brich has joined #xmlsec
14:02:48 <Zakim> +pdatta
14:03:13 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:03:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see JohnWray, Frederick_Hirsch, Ed_Simon, Thomas, Hal, sean, [IBM], pdatta
14:03:15 <Zakim> [IBM] has brich
14:03:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see brich, EdS, hal, pdatta, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, jwray, tlr, trackbot-ng
14:03:52 <shivaram> shivaram has joined #xmlsec
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14:04:08 <Zakim> +shivaram
14:04:40 <tlr> Regrets for next week, suspect you'll also get some from Hal and PHB.
14:05:20 <fjh> Shivaram will scribe next week
14:05:26 <tlr> (I'm obviously not speaking for Phill and Hal. ;)
14:05:35 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:05:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see JohnWray, Frederick_Hirsch, Ed_Simon, Thomas, Hal, sean, [IBM], pdatta, shivaram
14:05:37 <Zakim> [IBM] has brich
14:05:38 <Zakim> On IRC I see jcc, shivaram, brich, EdS, hal, pdatta, sean, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, jwray, tlr, trackbot-ng
14:06:10 <fjh> Regrets: Rob Miller
14:06:29 <tlr> Thanks to Hal for scribing last week.
14:07:24 <fjh> c14n11 should be published as PER today, please talk to AC rep to support progressing
14:07:38 <tlr> s/PER/PR/
14:08:45 <jcc> Sorry...trying to dial in but rejected because the passcode 965732# is reported not to be valid
14:09:03 <fjh> tlr: to address patent concerns revisions to c14n11 in follow on xmlsec wg should be joint work with xml core
14:09:52 <tlr> zakim, code?
14:09:52 <Zakim> the conference code is 965732 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), tlr
14:10:01 <tlr> jcc, you using skype?
14:10:21 <tlr> if so, you might need to mute the microphone while using the touchtone interface.
14:10:23 <jwray> TOPIC: Minutes
14:10:28 <tlr> juan carlos?
14:10:31 <fjh> http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-xmlsec-minutes.html
14:10:32 <Zakim> +??P9
14:10:36 <jcc> yes... using skype
14:10:40 <tlr> http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-xmlsec-minutes.html
14:10:43 <tlr> http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-xmlsec-minutes-public.html
14:10:52 <tlr> jcc, it's a known problem with skype, zakim, and touchtones
14:12:27 <hal> I read the minutes ;)
14:12:46 <jwray> tlr: private minutes include impl details.  Approve next mtg, comments on private minutes on priv list
14:13:37 <jwray> TOPIC:Test case doc
14:15:29 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0045.html
14:16:53 <tlr> tlr: For clarification: Let's keep diffRFC in test case document, but not in implementation report.
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14:17:26 <tlr> ACTION: fjh to fix IBM xpointer cases
14:17:26 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-141 - Fix IBM xpointer cases [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2008-02-05].
14:17:29 <tlr> q+
14:18:44 <fjh> ack tlr
14:18:59 <tlr> brich: xpointer signatures were the ones available at interop
14:19:05 <tlr> tlr: that answers my question
14:19:35 <tlr> let's say in the report "these signatures were verified at the interop, nobody reported any problems"
14:19:48 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0034.html
14:19:52 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0034.html
14:20:13 <tlr> q+
14:20:27 <fjh> ack tlr
14:20:42 <tlr> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0046.html
14:22:07 <brich> i'm ok with the text that you proposed for defCan
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14:22:57 <tlr> ACTION: fjh to update implementation report, merge http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0046.html
14:22:57 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-142 - Update implementation report, merge http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0046.html [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2008-02-05].
14:23:02 <tlr> rrsagent, list actions
14:23:02 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-xmlsec-actions.rdf :
14:23:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: fjh to fix IBM xpointer cases [1]
14:23:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-xmlsec-irc#T14-17-26
14:23:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: fjh to update implementation report, merge http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0046.html [2]
14:23:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-xmlsec-irc#T14-22-57
14:23:38 <tlr> tlr has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0045.html
14:24:27 <jwray> TOPIC: EXI
14:25:25 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Jan/0047.html
14:29:01 <jwray> Will discuss further in next call
14:29:13 <jwray> TOPIC: Best practices
14:29:54 <tlr> hal: will pull together something in the next few weeks. Will probably be worst practices or "unexpectedly bad experiences"
14:32:05 <jwray> TOPIC: Action items
14:32:31 <tlr> trackbot-ng, close action-115
14:32:31 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-115 Review EXI with respect to correct XML Security usage closed
14:32:51 <tlr> trackbot-ng, close action-140
14:32:51 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-140 Propose useful language for defCan tests, no detailed results closed
14:33:41 <hal> +1
14:34:23 <tlr> RESOLUTION: upcoming calls to be scheduled for 60min, not 90min
14:34:48 <Zakim> -Hal
14:34:50 <Zakim> -[IBM]
14:34:51 <Zakim> -shivaram
14:34:51 <Zakim> -pdatta
14:34:52 <Zakim> -??P9
14:34:53 <Zakim> -sean
14:34:54 <Zakim> -Frederick_Hirsch
14:35:01 <Zakim> -Ed_Simon
14:35:02 <Zakim> -Thomas
14:35:29 <tlr> rrsagent, make record public
14:35:34 <tlr> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:35:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-xmlsec-minutes.html tlr
14:35:38 <tlr> zakim, list participants
14:35:38 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been JohnWray, Frederick_Hirsch, Ed_Simon, Thomas, Hal, +1.617.876.aaaa, sean, brich, pdatta, shivaram
14:35:48 <fjh> zakim, what is the code
14:35:48 <Zakim> I don't understand 'what is the code', fjh
14:35:48 <tlr> zakim, please draft minutes
14:35:49 <Zakim> I don't understand 'please draft minutes', tlr
14:35:53 <tlr> zakim, what is the code?
14:35:53 <Zakim> the conference code is 965732 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), tlr
14:35:56 <tlr> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:35:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-xmlsec-minutes.html tlr
14:36:20 <Zakim> +??P1
14:38:27 <Zakim> -??P1
14:38:28 <Zakim> -JohnWray
14:38:29 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has ended
14:38:30 <Zakim> Attendees were JohnWray, Frederick_Hirsch, Ed_Simon, Thomas, Hal, +1.617.876.aaaa, sean, brich, pdatta, shivaram