IRC log of swd on 2008-01-29

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15:53:23 [Tom]: rrsagent, bookmark
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15:53:29 [Tom]: zakim, this will be swd
15:53:29 [Zakim]: ok, Tom; I see SW_SWD()11:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
15:53:36 [Tom]: Meeting: SWD WG
15:53:39 [Tom]: Chair: Guus
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15:54:09 [Tom]: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jan/0181.html
15:54:51 [Tom]: Previous: http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html
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16:00:04 [Tom]: zakim, ??P11 is Tom
16:00:04 [Zakim]: +Tom; got it
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16:00:56 [seanb]: zakim, ??P25 is seanb
16:00:56 [Zakim]: +seanb; got it
16:01:25 [qreul]: zakim, ??24 is qreul
16:01:25 [Zakim]: sorry, qreul, I do not recognize a party named '??24'
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16:02:16 [Antoine]: zakim, aaaa is me
16:02:17 [Zakim]: +Antoine; got it
16:02:20 [Zakim]: -Tom
16:02:30 [Guus]: tes, thx Sean
16:02:52 [seanb]: scribe: seanb
16:03:09 [seanb]: Scribe: seanb
16:03:20 [Zakim]: +Guus_Schreiber
16:03:53 [Zakim]: +Margherita_Sini
16:03:56 [Ralph]: zakim, who's on the call?
16:03:57 [Zakim]: On the phone I see ??P24, seanb, JonP, Antoine, Ralph, ??P32, Guus_Schreiber, Margherita_Sini
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16:04:24 [Ralph]: zakim, ??p24 is Quentin
16:04:24 [Zakim]: +Quentin; got it
16:05:05 [Ralph]: zakim, ??p32 is Daniel
16:05:05 [Zakim]: +Daniel; got it
16:05:13 [Zakim]: + +35391aabb
16:05:17 [Zakim]: +Encarna
16:05:18 [berrueta_]: zakim, aabb is me
16:05:18 [Ralph]: zakim, aabb is Vit
16:05:20 [Zakim]: +berrueta_; got it
16:05:23 [Zakim]: sorry, Ralph, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'
16:05:34 [berrueta_]: zakim, Encarna is me
16:05:34 [Zakim]: +berrueta_; got it
16:06:06 [vit]: zakim, 35391aabb is me
16:06:08 [Zakim]: sorry, vit, I do not recognize a party named '35391aabb'
16:06:13 [seanb]: Regrets: Ben,
16:06:26 [Zakim]: +Tom
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16:07:07 [Ralph]: zakim, mute quentin
16:07:07 [Zakim]: Quentin should now be muted
16:07:09 [Zakim]: -Quentin
16:07:14 [vit]: zakim, +35391aabb is me
16:07:14 [Zakim]: sorry, vit, I do not recognize a party named '+35391aabb'
16:07:18 [Zakim]: +??P5
16:07:29 [seanb]: Topic: Admin
16:08:00 [Zakim]: +Quentin
16:08:16 [Tom]: Tom notes this is telecon #57 of Semantic Web Deployment
16:08:26 [Zakim]: +[LC]
16:08:38 [Ralph]: zakim, [lc] is Ed
16:08:38 [Zakim]: +Ed; got it
16:08:55 [seanb]: PROPOSED to accept minutes of the Jan 22 telecon:
16:08:55 [seanb]: http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html
16:09:11 [seanb]: ACCEPTED
16:09:45 [seanb]: Guus: Tom and I discussed schedule
16:09:59 [seanb]: ...officially charter ends April.
16:10:18 [seanb]: ...WG should be done (with a majority of the work) by the summer
16:10:19 [Zakim]: +berrueta_
16:10:35 [seanb]: ...RDFa and SKOS at least at Candidate Rec. Should have moved beyond Last Call
16:10:55 [seanb]: ...Majority of work before the summer. It's fair to make that clear to WG participants
16:11:11 [seanb]: ...Need to discuss schedule with intercoordination group.
16:11:36 [seanb]: ...Review of SKOS issues on agenda.
16:11:50 [seanb]: ...Discussing mainly RDFa and SKOS as these are Rec track.
16:12:04 [seanb]: ...Also recipes/vocab management. What are the realistic goals in the
16:12:08 [seanb]: ...time span?
16:12:22 [Zakim]: -berrueta
16:12:33 [seanb]: ACTION: Chairs to put schedule review on agenda. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action24]
16:12:36 [seanb]: ---continues
16:12:42 [Ralph]: rrsagent, please make record public
16:12:47 [seanb]: Topic: SKOS
16:13:00 [seanb]: ACTION: Guus to schedule to discussion on the notation (syntax) used in SKOS examples in Reference and Primer in two weeks time, i.e. on 29 January [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action05]
16:13:05 [seanb]: --continues
16:13:26 [seanb]: ACTION: Ralph get SKOS WD published [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action03]
16:13:27 [seanb]: DONE: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jan/0177.html
16:13:31 [seanb]: --done
16:14:06 [seanb]: Guus: Ian Jacobs called for exclusions. Usual process on publication of working draft.
16:14:08 [Ralph]: zakim, mute vit
16:14:08 [Zakim]: Vit should now be muted
16:14:14 [seanb]: ACTION: Alistair to solicit feedback via mailing lists on WD [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action22]
16:14:17 [seanb]: --continues
16:14:31 [seanb]: Alistair: Sent mail to the list. Comments welcome.
16:15:03 [seanb]: ACTION: Alistair to add editorial note linking ISSUE-44 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action01]
16:15:08 [seanb]: --dropped
16:15:40 [seanb]: Guus: SKOS Issues. 20 minutes reviewing issue list.
16:15:44 [Ralph]: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues SKOS issues
16:16:21 [seanb]: Ralph: Quite a few raised issues that should maybe be open.
16:17:04 [seanb]: Guus: Issue 26. Relationship between labels. Open.
16:17:17 [seanb]: ...Bit worrying that we haven't been able to close this one.
16:17:35 [seanb]: Antoine: Proposal that was accepted (Label Relation by Alistair)
16:17:53 [seanb]: ...but since have received mail commenting on it. Acceptable for the moment, but way to
16:18:07 [seanb]: ...do this is to keep it open as late as possible.
16:18:17 [seanb]: ...Can't really propose anything else. Should get new feedback on
16:18:25 [seanb]: ...this soon.
16:18:35 [seanb]: Guus: Leave open and await comments.
16:18:53 [seanb]: Guus: Issue 27. Annotation on Labels. Similar to 26?
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16:19:11 [seanb]: Antoine: Could be, but there are no examples of simple annotation on labels. Similar
16:19:15 [seanb]: ...pattern could be used.
16:19:22 [seanb]: Guus: Keep 26 & 27 linked.
16:19:37 [seanb]: Guus: 31. Open. Alistair?
16:19:58 [seanb]: Alistair: All of the questions in this issue are answere in the
16:20:15 [seanb]: ...current WD, with the notion of certain graphs being not consistent.
16:20:26 [seanb]: ...so current WD answers this. What's the process?
16:20:44 [seanb]: Guus: Point to current WD as resolution (making specific reference to the document and version)
16:20:59 [seanb]: ACTION: Alistair to write a resolution for ISSUE 31 (citing current WD)
16:21:45 [seanb]: Guus: Issue 32 ConceptSchemeLabellingInteractions
16:21:56 [seanb]: ...This has been raised. Should we open it?
16:22:08 [seanb]: Alistair: This is about whether or not two concepts in a scheme can have the same
16:22:14 [Ralph]: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/32 ConceptSchemeLabellingInteractions [issue 32]
16:22:28 [seanb]: ...preferred label in the same language. If you're using SKOS for Thesaurus, this is
16:22:38 [seanb]: ...useful, but not necessarily generally applciable.
16:22:45 [seanb]: ...Was discussed in previous WD.
16:22:52 [seanb]: Guus: Is this in Use cases?
16:23:05 [seanb]: Antoine: yes , if you consider that some UCs are thesuaurs UCs.
16:23:15 [seanb]: Guus: Pragmatic based on use cases or postpone.
16:23:29 [seanb]: Ralph: Doesn't seem crucial for SKOS to restrict this.
16:23:46 [seanb]: Alistair: Can't generally restrict this as some concept schemes allow it.
16:24:21 [seanb]: Guus: Propose that Alistair considers Closing the issue by not making a commitment
16:24:25 [seanb]: ...and addin a note.
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16:24:57 [seanb]: Antoine: In the cirrent primer. There is a note about this. [quotes document]
16:25:11 [seanb]: Guus: Suggest Antoine cut and paste text as resolution.
16:25:59 [seanb]: Issue 32 is opened with Antoine owner.
16:26:19 [seanb]: ACTION: Antoine to propose resolution to Issue 32 based on text from the primer
16:27:36 [Ralph]: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/35 RulesAndConformance [issue 35]
16:27:41 [seanb]: Issue 35: Rules and Conformance
16:28:01 [seanb]: Alistair: Current SKOS Reference doesn't state any rules explicitly, but
16:28:12 [seanb]: ....does talk about things that can be entailed from others things.
16:28:34 [seanb]: Guus: This issue then isn't really relevant at the moment.
16:29:17 [seanb]: ACTION: Sean to propose postponing the issue.
16:29:32 [seanb]: Issue 37: SKOS Specialisation
16:29:55 [seanb]: (in action above, it's issue 35)
16:30:06 [Ralph]: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/37 SkosSpecialization [issue 37]
16:30:16 [seanb]: Alistair: Place holder in current skos reference appendix
16:30:24 [seanb]: Antoine: And something in the primer.
16:30:25 [ed]: section 4.8 of the Primer also
16:30:29 [Zakim]: +Elisa_Kendall
16:30:42 [seanb]: Guus: Propose to delay this for now. Don't have to open yet.
16:31:03 [seanb]: Guus: 38 Postponed, 39 Closed.
16:31:15 [seanb]: Guus: 40 (Concept Co-ordination) a bit tricky.
16:31:34 [seanb]: ...When do we need to open this? Is there a good time and who will be issue owner?
16:31:52 [seanb]: Antoine: Propose not to do it now.
16:32:01 [seanb]: Alistair: No time like the present to open it.
16:32:02 [Ralph]: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/40 ConceptCoordination [issue 40]
16:32:18 [seanb]: Alistair: Don't mind making a proposal.
16:33:17 [seanb]: Alistair: SKOS could go to rec without this feature.
16:33:30 [seanb]: ACTION: Alistair to make a proposal for Issue 40 (Concept Coordination)
16:33:47 [seanb]: Guus: Issue 41 Use lang tags in examples
16:33:58 [seanb]: Antoine: We can close this with the SKOS primer
16:34:12 [seanb]: Guus: This is not a technical issue. This is an action.
16:34:23 [seanb]: ...Can we delete issues?
16:34:34 [seanb]: Ralph: Can close and say it's not a technical issue.
16:34:46 [seanb]: Guus: Need to be careful as we can only finish if they're closed or postponed.
16:35:53 [seanb]: Alistair: yes originally and issue raised on old SKOS core guide. No longer applicable.
16:36:07 [seanb]: Guus: Any objections to closing this?
16:36:21 [seanb]: Ralph: Alistair should take an action to respond to original query.
16:36:38 [seanb]: ACTION: Alistair to respond to original query regarding Issue 41
16:36:50 [seanb]: Ralph: Will mark as pending
16:37:06 [seanb]: Guus: 44 Closed
16:37:24 [seanb]: Guus: Issue 45 NaryLinksBetweenDescriptorsAndNonDescriptors
16:37:36 [seanb]: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/45
16:38:08 [seanb]: Alistair: We could say this is out of scope. Or we could say that it can be done via extensions to SKOS
16:38:30 [seanb]: ...or we could try and do it ourselves. Cheapest is to declare out of scope/postpone.
16:38:36 [seanb]: Ralph: I'm ok to postpone
16:38:46 [seanb]: Guus: But there are UCs that make use of this
16:38:59 [seanb]: ...would not be willing to postpone at ths point in time.
16:39:21 [seanb]: Antointe: could be solvable once Issue 40 is done. Can postpone if we decide to do nothing for 40.
16:41:20 [seanb]: Guus: What was this action?
16:41:42 [seanb]: Alistiar: at F2F went with decision to o for n-ary relations. Guus was to consider whether we needed alternatics
16:41:57 [seanb]: Guus: PRopose we drop it and return on ISSUE 26.
16:41:59 [seanb]: ACTION: Guus to write up the issue [of Label Resource] and add to the issue list. [recorded in [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action11]
16:42:01 [seanb]: --dropped
16:42:36 [Ralph]: zakim, mute quentin
16:42:36 [Zakim]: Quentin should now be muted
16:43:01 [seanb]: ACTION: Alistair and Guus to prepare material for next week on Concept Schemes vs OWL Ontologies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action10]
16:43:05 [seanb]: --continues
16:43:16 [seanb]: Alistair: DO we have an issue that we're trying to resolve here?
16:43:31 [seanb]: Guus: Related to issue resolutions w.r.t concept scheme containment that we had
16:44:08 [seanb]: ...discussed. In particular whether you can consider an OWL ontology that only containts instnaces as an ontology.
16:44:25 [seanb]: Alistair: Issue 36 is closed, so do we still need to have a discussion and do we still need
16:44:29 [seanb]: ...additional text?
16:44:33 [seanb]: Guus: yes, I think so.
16:44:52 [seanb]: Alistair: This action is now transforming.
16:45:02 [seanb]: ...writing text for which document?
16:45:12 [seanb]: Antoine: influences both.
16:45:38 [seanb]: Ralph: If it's informative, put it in the primer.
16:45:52 [seanb]: Alistair: Not clear what more needs to be said for the reference.
16:46:01 [seanb]: Guus: Is this currently covered on the primer?
16:46:14 [seanb]: Antoine: Something, but it needs checked.
16:46:52 [ed]: Primer, Section 3.3
16:47:42 [seanb]: ACTION: Alistair and Guus to check the text in the primer on relationship between Concept Schemes and OWL Ontologies.
16:48:24 [seanb]: action 12 is actually dropped
16:48:40 [seanb]: ACTION: Alistair to propose an approach to clarify which aspects of the extension module should be in scope for the candidate recommendation package. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action09]
16:48:43 [seanb]: --continues
16:48:52 [seanb]: ACTION: Ralph to check whether the common interpretation of rdfs isDefinedBy fits the reasoning that was made in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Oct/0141.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-swd-minutes.html#action10]
16:48:55 [seanb]: --continues
16:49:19 [seanb]: Alistair: Current SKOS Ref says nothing about isDefinedBy. If it should be different, Ralph please raise issue.
16:49:32 [seanb]: Guus; SKOS Primer comments from RIF
16:49:43 [seanb]: Antoine: Comments from Quentin and Margherita.
16:49:54 [seanb]: ...Answered apart from some possible typos.
16:50:09 [seanb]: Guus: Postpone discussed to next week. Anything to track here?
16:50:39 [seanb]: Antoine: Made some answers, positive feedback from Quentin. Waiting from Margherita.
16:51:03 [aliman]: I'm confused, comments at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jan/0150.html are from Margherita, what does "RIF" stand for?
16:51:21 [seanb]: ACTION: Alistair and Guus write draft section in primer on relationship between SKOS concepts and OWL classes for OWL DL users [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action06]
16:51:24 [seanb]: --continues
16:51:31 [seanb]: Guus: Drafting text right now.
16:51:34 [seanb]: Topic: RDFa
16:51:56 [seanb]: Guus; New editors draft is out. Ed and Diego have actions to review it.
16:52:02 [ed]: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-rdfa-syntax-20080125/
16:52:16 [seanb]: ...When would it be wise to put this on the agenda?
16:52:38 [seanb]: ...Is feb 13th (12th?) feasible.
16:52:42 [seanb]: Ed: Yes.
16:52:49 [seanb]: Diego: Almost finished.
16:53:33 [seanb]: Guus: Co-ordination with XHTML group.
16:53:51 [seanb]: ...Ralph, please bring this up at the next telecon.
16:54:01 [seanb]: Ralph: is this proposed as Last Call?
16:54:11 [seanb]: Guus: yes, I'm treating this as LC.
16:54:34 [seanb]: Ralph: Encourage all WG participants to look at the document. We're now saying "We think
16:54:38 [seanb]: ...we're done".
16:54:39 [Tom]: q+ to suggest we give Ralph an action, including the words "Last Call" - for the record
16:54:54 [seanb]: Guus: No opening issues after this.
16:54:56 [Zakim]: Tom, you wanted to suggest we give Ralph an action, including the words "Last Call" - for the record
16:55:15 [seanb]: Tom: Suggest we action Ralph (including words Last Call).
16:55:47 [ed]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Jan/0179.html
16:56:10 [seanb]: Ed: RDFa folks are suggesting this as Last Call
16:56:29 [seanb]: ACTION: Ben to distribute RDFa syntax draft to reviewers by Monday [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-swd-minutes.html#action10]
16:56:31 [seanb]: --done
16:56:37 [seanb]: ACTION: Ed to review RDFa syntax document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-swd-minutes.html#action13]
16:56:38 [Ralph]: ACTION: Ralph confirm with the RDFa Task Force that the current RDFa Syntax document is the Last Call candidate and note that SWD WG plans to put that resolution on its 12-Feb agenda
16:56:39 [seanb]: --continues
16:56:46 [seanb]: ACTION: Diego to review RDFa syntax document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-swd-minutes.html#action12]
16:56:48 [seanb]: --continues
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16:56:55 [seanb]: ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
16:56:57 [seanb]: --continues
16:57:03 [seanb]: ACTION: Ben and Michael to address comments by Tom [regarding maintenance of wiki document http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/08-swd-minutes.html#action05]
16:57:04 [ed]: ooops, that email was from Guus not Ben :)
16:57:06 [seanb]: --dropped
16:57:52 [seanb]: ACTION: Ben to prepare the email to request the decision for publishing on Feb 5th [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/15-swd-minutes.html#action18]
16:57:55 [seanb]: --dropped
16:58:02 [seanb]: ACTION: Ben to prepare the email to request the decision for publishing on Feb 12th
16:58:12 [seanb]: Topic: Recipes
16:58:32 [seanb]: Guus: Approved last week publication of document
16:58:38 [seanb]: Ralph: It's in the webmaster queue.
16:59:00 [seanb]: ACTION: Diego to solicit feedback via mailing lists on WD [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action22]
16:59:03 [seanb]: --continues
16:59:10 [seanb]: ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
16:59:12 [seanb]: --continues
16:59:17 [seanb]: ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
16:59:20 [seanb]: --continues
16:59:34 [seanb]: Guus: Need to consider realistic schedule for bringing this to WG Note.
16:59:46 [seanb]: ...when is the point when this is what we'll say about the subject.
17:00:09 [seanb]: Ralph: Will have to se how many comments we get. Content negotation handling
17:00:25 [seanb]: ...unless we get significant comments, I suspect we're done.
17:00:35 [seanb]: Topic: Vocabulary Management
17:00:47 [Zakim]: -Daniel
17:00:50 [seanb]: Guus: How far can we push this in lifetime of group?
17:01:09 [seanb]: Elisa: New editor's draft hopefully by close of play tomorrow.
17:01:31 [seanb]: Guus: Also needs to be part of our scheduling discussion.
17:01:43 [seanb]: Guus: AOB?
17:01:49 [Ralph]: zakim, list attendees
17:01:49 [Zakim]: As of this point the attendees have been Tom, seanb, JonP, +1.312.042.aaaa, Ralph, Antoine, Guus_Schreiber, Margherita_Sini, Quentin, Daniel, +35391aabb, berrueta_, aliman, Ed,
17:01:53 [Zakim]: ... Elisa_Kendall
17:01:55 [seanb]: adjourned
17:01:56 [Zakim]: -Vit
17:01:57 [Zakim]: -Quentin
17:01:57 [Zakim]: -Ed
17:01:58 [Ralph]: rrsagent, please draft minutes
17:01:58 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-minutes.html Ralph
17:01:59 [Zakim]: -berrueta
17:02:01 [Zakim]: -JonP
17:02:02 [Zakim]: -Elisa_Kendall
17:02:04 [Zakim]: -aliman
17:02:06 [Zakim]: -Antoine
17:02:07 [Zakim]: -Margherita_Sini
17:02:13 [ed]: ed has left #swd
17:02:15 [marghe]: marghe has left #swd
17:02:35 [Zakim]: -seanb
17:02:48 [Tom]: zakim, who is on the call?
17:02:48 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Tom, Ralph, Guus_Schreiber
17:05:52 [Antoine]: Antoine has left #swd
17:22:10 [Zakim]: -Ralph
17:22:14 [Zakim]: -Guus_Schreiber
17:22:15 [Zakim]: SW_SWD()11:00AM has ended
17:22:18 [Zakim]: Attendees were Tom, seanb, JonP, +1.312.042.aaaa, Ralph, Antoine, Guus_Schreiber, Margherita_Sini, Quentin, Daniel, +35391aabb, berrueta_, aliman, Ed, Elisa_Kendall
17:22:50 [Ralph]: zakim, bye
17:22:50 [Zakim]: Zakim has left #swd
17:22:56 [seanb]: Ralph -- who was +1.312.042.aaaa??
17:23:45 [Ralph]: it was Antoine: http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-02-16
17:24:16 [Ralph]: and +35391aabb was Diego
17:25:24 [Ralph]: rrsagent, bye
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: I see 27 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-actions.rdf :
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Chairs to put schedule review on agenda. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action24] [1]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-12-33
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Guus to schedule to discussion on the notation (syntax) used in SKOS examples in Reference and Primer in two weeks time, i.e. on 29 January [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action05] [2]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-13-00
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ralph get SKOS WD published [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action03] [3]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-13-26
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Alistair to solicit feedback via mailing lists on WD [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action22] [4]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-14-14
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Alistair to add editorial note linking ISSUE-44 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action01] [5]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-15-03
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Alistair to write a resolution for ISSUE 31 (citing current WD) [6]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-20-59
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Antoine to propose resolution to Issue 32 based on text from the primer [7]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-26-19
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Sean to propose postponing the issue. [8]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-29-17
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Alistair to make a proposal for Issue 40 (Concept Coordination) [9]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-33-30
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Alistair to respond to original query regarding Issue 41 [10]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-36-38
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Guus to write up the issue [of Label Resource] and add to the issue list. [recorded in [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action11] [11]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-41-59
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Alistair and Guus to prepare material for next week on Concept Schemes vs OWL Ontologies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action10] [12]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-43-01
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Alistair and Guus to check the text in the primer on relationship between Concept Schemes and OWL Ontologies. [13]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-47-42
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Alistair to propose an approach to clarify which aspects of the extension module should be in scope for the candidate recommendation package. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action09] [14]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-48-40
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ralph to check whether the common interpretation of rdfs isDefinedBy fits the reasoning that was made in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Oct/0141.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-swd-minutes.html#action10] [15]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-48-52
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Alistair and Guus write draft section in primer on relationship between SKOS concepts and OWL classes for OWL DL users [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action06] [16]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-51-21
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ben to distribute RDFa syntax draft to reviewers by Monday [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/08-swd-minutes.html#action10] [17]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-56-29
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ed to review RDFa syntax document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-swd-minutes.html#action13] [18]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-56-37
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ralph confirm with the RDFa Task Force that the current RDFa Syntax document is the Last Call candidate and note that SWD WG plans to put that resolution on its 12-Feb agenda [19]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-56-38
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Diego to review RDFa syntax document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/18-swd-minutes.html#action12] [20]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-56-46
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [21]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-56-55
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ben and Michael to address comments by Tom [regarding maintenance of wiki document http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/08-swd-minutes.html#action05] [22]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-57-03
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ben to prepare the email to request the decision for publishing on Feb 5th [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/15-swd-minutes.html#action18] [23]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-57-52
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ben to prepare the email to request the decision for publishing on Feb 12th [24]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-58-02
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Diego to solicit feedback via mailing lists on WD [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action22] [25]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-59-00
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [26]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-59-10
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20] [27]
17:25:24 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/29-swd-irc#T16-59-17