IRC log of i18nits on 2008-01-23

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13:38:55 [fsasaki]

meeting: i18n ITS WG

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chair: Yves

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scribe: Felix

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scribeNick: fsasaki

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regrets: Christian, Jirka

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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2008JanMar/0010.html

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13:57:01 [YvesS]

Hi Felix

13:57:15 [fsasaki]

Hi Yves

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I18N_TS()9:00AM has now started

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+Yves_Savourel

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+Felix

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topic: action items

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ACTION-3 to be done soon

14:04:01 [YvesS]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2008JanMar/0011.html

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ACTION-11 and ACTION-59

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+??P10

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Yves: external file is nice

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14:05:27 [r12a]

zakim, dial richard please

14:05:27 [Zakim]

ok, r12a; the call is being made

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+Richard

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close ACTION-59

14:06:54 [trackbot-ng]

ACTION-59 Send another mail to Leigh Klotz about XForms example closed

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action: Felix to create local and global ITS markup for the XForms example file

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Created ACTION-63 - Create local and global ITS markup for the XForms example file [on Felix Sasaki - due 2008-01-30].

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close ACTION-11

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ACTION-11 Send his ITS rules files to XForms WG closed

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ACTION-33 and ACTION-45

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2008JanMar/0007.html

14:11:03 [fsasaki]

Richard: fine by me

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Felix: I'll implement the changes

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ACTION-54 talk about it later

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ACTION-55 ongoing

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ACTION-56 ongoing (see mail to member list)

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close ACTION-58 (done by Yves)

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close ACTION-58

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ACTION-58 Remove revision log before publication of BP document as WG Note closed

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close ACTION-60

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close ACTION-60

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ACTION-60 Remove edit marks closed

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close ACTION-61 ongoing

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ACTION-62 pending

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topic: Review of other drafts

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2008JanMar/0026.html

14:19:15 [fsasaki]

Felix summarizes the mail

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Yves: good idea

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Felix: will send a mail with a concrete text proposal, keep ACTION-54 OPEN

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Yves: no other formats to review

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topic: Best Practices Working Draft

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http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html

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Yves: going through ed. notes

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"[Ed. note: maybe we should point to the BP "Handling attribute values and element content in different languages"]"

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Yves: everybody fine with that

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Richard: I'm going to enter the reference, where the reference is

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+1

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"[Ed. note: I'm inclined to think we should spell out what's happening here a little more.]"

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"This document shows how a set of ITS rules can be easily included along with customized information, like an informal description, the namespace of the vocabulary which applies the ITS rules, or an identifier and version information for the rules."

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Richard: "easily included 'in' ..."

14:26:34 [fsasaki]

"can be easily combined with customized information"?

14:28:06 [fsasaki]

"easily included in a customized information file which contains ..."

14:30:31 [r12a]

This example shows that you can create your own format and put its rules in it and an ITS processor can process that as an external ITS rules file, if you wish.

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your own format with additional custom information

14:31:22 [fsasaki]

+1

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Richard: doing the change

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"[Ed. note: compose or modify ? ]"

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combine and provide additional rules for

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Richard to change

14:36:20 [Zakim]

-??P10

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+??P10

14:38:08 [r12a]

The text below takes XML Spec 2.10 as an example and shows how you would integrate ITS into it.

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Richard to edit

14:39:17 [fsasaki]

action: Felix to go to Norm if he could create a new version of XMLSpec with ITS markup in it, and the BP document contains an example

14:39:17 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-64 - Go to Norm if he could create a new version of XMLSpec with ITS markup in it, and the BP document contains an example [on Felix Sasaki - due 2008-01-30].

14:39:45 [fsasaki]

"[Ed. note: is being or has been ? ]"

14:40:39 [fsasaki]

http://www.w3.org/International/xmlspec/002/documentation/xmlspec-i18n-dtd.html

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Felix: will create 003 version of xmlspec-i18n-dtd , with ITS markup in it

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and create documentation under /International/xmlspec

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"xml i18n BP" will point only to documentation http://www.w3.org/International/xmlspec/documentation/xmlspec-i18n-dtd.html , not to the xmlspec-i18n.dtd schema with ITS

14:46:28 [fsasaki]

use the most up to date file in http://www.w3.org/International/xmlspec/002/documentation/xmlspec-i18n-dtd.html , but put it into http://www.w3.org/International/xmlspec/documentation/xmlspec-i18n-dtd.html

14:47:15 [fsasaki]

work on that

14:47:47 [r12a]

when working on the updates to the documentation, add links to the actual dtd/mod etc files themselves

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to the documentation

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Richard to change the link to the documentation

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topic: http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthMarkupAsText

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Richard check language in BP 24

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topic: publication plans

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Richard: would like to take more time to look into the document

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Yves: take one more week?

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agreement

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We could vote via mail as well, without another meeting

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topic: AOB

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-Felix

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-Yves_Savourel

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-??P10

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present: Bartosz, Felix, Richard, Yves

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/23-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki

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-Richard

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I18N_TS()9:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Yves_Savourel, Felix, Richard

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I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/23-i18nits-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: Felix to create local and global ITS markup for the XForms example file [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/23-i18nits-irc#T14-07-13

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ACTION: Felix to go to Norm if he could create a new version of XMLSpec with ITS markup in it, and the BP document contains an example [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/23-i18nits-irc#T14-39-17

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