IRC log of tsdtf on 2008-01-22
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- 13:30:44 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-tsdtf-irc
- 13:30:51 [Christophe]
- zakim, what conferences?
- 13:30:51 [Zakim]
- I see UW_Team()8:00AM, ARCH_Team()8:00AM active
- 13:30:52 [Zakim]
- also scheduled at this time are WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM, IA_CDFWG()8:30AM
- 13:31:01 [Christophe]
- zakim, this will be WAI_TSDTF
- 13:31:01 [Zakim]
- ok, Christophe; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start now
- 13:31:06 [Christophe]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Jan/0005.html
- 13:31:29 [Christophe]
- Meeting: WAI TSD TF
- 13:31:43 [Christophe]
- Chair: Christophe, CarlosV
- 13:31:47 [CarlosV]
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- 13:32:03 [Christophe]
- Agenda+ Reviewing test samples
- 13:32:21 [Christophe]
- Agenda+ Naming convention and test suite ID in metadata
- 13:32:26 [shadi]
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- 13:32:31 [Christophe]
- Agenda+ rule/@primary and testCase/@complexity
- 13:32:40 [Christophe]
- Agenda+ Review of action items
- 13:32:42 [Zakim]
- WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
- 13:32:49 [Zakim]
- +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
- 13:33:09 [Zakim]
- +??P4
- 13:33:25 [CarlosV]
- zakim, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas is CarlosV
- 13:33:25 [Zakim]
- +CarlosV; got it
- 13:33:29 [shadi]
- zakim, ??p4 is really Shadi
- 13:33:29 [Zakim]
- +Shadi; got it
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- +Christophe_Strobbe
- 13:36:56 [CarlosI]
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- +Carlos_Iglesias
- 13:38:34 [Zakim]
- +Tim_Boland
- 13:40:01 [Tim]
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- 13:44:33 [Christophe]
- zakim, who's making noise?
- 13:44:47 [Zakim]
- Christophe, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: CarlosV (19%), Shadi (4%), Tim_Boland (88%)
- 13:45:38 [Zakim]
- -Tim_Boland
- 13:45:57 [Christophe]
- zakim, who's making noise?
- 13:46:09 [Zakim]
- Christophe, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: CarlosV (72%)
- 13:46:28 [shadi]
- zakim, please mute carlosv
- 13:46:28 [Zakim]
- CarlosV should now be muted
- 13:47:17 [Zakim]
- -CarlosV
- 13:47:55 [Zakim]
- +CarlosV
- 13:50:55 [Christophe]
- Scribe: CarlosI
- 13:51:04 [Christophe]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
- 13:51:04 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Reviewing test samples" taken up [from Christophe]
- 13:51:16 [Zakim]
- +Tim_Boland
- 13:51:28 [CarlosI]
- CS: no new reviews
- 13:52:28 [Christophe]
- zakim, take up agendum 2
- 13:52:28 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "Naming convention and test suite ID in metadata" taken up [from Christophe]
- 13:54:32 [Christophe]
- zakim, take up agendum 3
- 13:54:32 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "rule/@primary and testCase/@complexity" taken up [from Christophe]
- 13:54:41 [Christophe]
- Scribe: Tim
- 13:54:46 [CarlosI]
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- 13:55:32 [Tim]
- CS: discussion about primary and complexity attributes
- 13:55:38 [CarlosI]
- CS: forgot to send the summarize for ids issue
- 13:55:51 [CarlosI]
- CS: will do for next time
- 13:55:55 [Tim]
- CS: sent examples to list before meeting
- 13:56:25 [Christophe]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Jan/0006.html
- 13:57:31 [Tim]
- CS: how many rules in a single test sample?
- 13:57:45 [Tim]
- CS: what are criteria for putting rules in test samples?
- 13:59:18 [Tim]
- CS: only allow primary rules, or multiple test samples addressing same issue?
- 14:02:27 [Tim]
- CI: in favor of focusing each test sample in terms of one single rule
- 14:02:53 [Tim]
- CS: what about rules that relate to same issue (example: color contrast)?
- 14:03:18 [Tim]
- CI: different rules..
- 14:05:16 [Tim]
- CS: one primary rule and no other rules per test sample?
- 14:08:28 [Tim]
- Resolution: test sample should have one primary rule and no other rules
- 14:09:54 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/process.html
- 14:11:46 [Tim]
- Action: CI to send new wording on clear scope re: checklist for content review
- 14:13:08 [Tim]
- CI: clarify current view re: test samples focus on one SC but may be affected by others?
- 14:14:08 [Tim]
- CS: where should this be covered?
- 14:14:34 [Christophe]
- Brainstorming corner: http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/BrainstormingCorner
- 14:18:44 [Tim]
- Action: CI to take note of disclaimer for single rule test samples
- 14:19:54 [Tim]
- CS: anything needed about complexity attribute?
- 14:20:29 [Tim]
- CI: need to "clean up" uploaded test samples?
- 14:21:48 [Tim]
- Action: CV to clean up complexity and primary attributes from the current test samples
- 14:22:15 [Christophe]
- zakim, take up agendum 4
- 14:22:15 [Zakim]
- agendum 4. "Review of action items" taken up [from Christophe]
- 14:23:29 [Christophe]
- <locations expectedResult="pass">
- 14:23:49 [Tim]
- CI: why we don't have any metadata for expected result?
- 14:25:02 [Tim]
- already previous discussions on topic..
- 14:25:59 [Tim]
- CS: should we use EARL in writing up expected result?
- 14:27:04 [Tim]
- CI: no metadata description, and why do we need one expected result at each location?
- 14:27:15 [Tim]
- CI: should be tied to rule element?
- 14:28:04 [Tim]
- CS: should discuss more on mailing list..
- 14:28:33 [Tim]
- Action: CS to improve using TCDL documents
- 14:29:22 [Tim]
- CS: next meeting 5 February
- 14:29:47 [Christophe]
- Regrets: Michael, Andrew
- 14:29:50 [Zakim]
- -Shadi
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
- 14:29:53 [Zakim]
- -Carlos_Iglesias
- 14:29:55 [Zakim]
- -CarlosV
- 14:30:19 [Zakim]
- -Tim_Boland
- 14:30:20 [Christophe]
- rrsagent, make log world
- 14:30:20 [Zakim]
- WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
- 14:30:21 [Zakim]
- Attendees were CarlosV, Shadi, Christophe_Strobbe, Carlos_Iglesias, Tim_Boland
- 14:30:35 [Christophe]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 14:30:35 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-tsdtf-minutes.html Christophe
- 14:30:46 [Christophe]
- zakim, bye
- 14:30:46 [Zakim]
- Zakim has left #tsdtf
- 14:32:15 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
- 14:32:20 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 14:32:20 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi
- 14:32:21 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
- 14:32:24 [shadi]
- rrsagent, bye
- 14:32:24 [RRSAgent]
- I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-tsdtf-actions.rdf :
- 14:32:24 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: CI to send new wording on clear scope re: checklist for content review [1]
- 14:32:24 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-tsdtf-irc#T14-11-46
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- ACTION: CI to take note of disclaimer for single rule test samples [2]
- 14:32:24 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-tsdtf-irc#T14-18-44
- 14:32:24 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: CV to clean up complexity and primary attributes from the current test samples [3]
- 14:32:24 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-tsdtf-irc#T14-21-48
- 14:32:24 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: CS to improve using TCDL documents [4]
- 14:32:24 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-tsdtf-irc#T14-28-33