IRC log of ua on 2008-01-17

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17:54:48 [Jan]
Zakim, this will be UAWG
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Meeting: WAI UA
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2008JanMar/0013.html
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Scribe: Jan
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Regrets: Peter Parente
17:57:56 [oedipus]
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17:59:37 [Jan]
zakim, this will be UAWG1
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18:00:49 [Jan]
zakim, this will be UAWG
18:00:49 [Zakim]
ok, Jan, I see WAI_UAWG()1:00PM already started
18:01:04 [Jan]
zakim, who is on the call
18:01:04 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who is on the call', Jan
18:01:35 [Jan]
zakim, who is here?
18:01:35 [Zakim]
On the phone I see ??P1
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On IRC I see RRSAgent, Jan
18:01:47 [Jan]
zakim, ??P1 is really Jan
18:01:47 [Zakim]
+Jan; got it
18:04:38 [Zakim]
+Gregory_Rosmaita
18:10:04 [Jan]
GR: HTML WG update...
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GR: Vote to release HTML5...
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GR: By standards it has carried....but 2 formal objections...
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GR: WHAT-WG concern...they originated HTML5 but are outside W3C...
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GR: Date for publication to be Jan. 22
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18:27:37 [Zakim]
+[IBM]
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zakim, [IBM] is really cklaws
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+cklaws; got it
18:31:33 [Jan]
Topic: JA to Ping CG and PF about AIA
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GR: Gives some AIA background
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Topic: JR to Check out "available programmatically "
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2008JanMar/0006.html
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JR: Reads it
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CL: Programmic read-access etc. is defined where we use it GL6.1...
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18:41:25 [oedipus]
q+ to suggest that GJR takes old "printable glossary" and compare to the current glossaries of other WAI specs in ESW wiki space
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q=
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q-
18:41:51 [Jan]
JR: What about Web-based user agents
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GR: What we need is common glossary...
18:42:31 [oedipus]
GJR takes old "printable glossary" and compare to the current glossaries of other WAI specs in ESW wiki space
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GR: Good exercise would be to compare terms and align concepts...
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GR: PF not using a common glossary
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JR: also practical problem that words have diff meaning depending on context
18:44:52 [oedipus]
GJR: at least ATAG, UAAG and ARIA -- if words have different meanings according to context, then we need to explain that somewhere
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CL: ERT, too
18:45:51 [Jan]
JR: Maybe I should talk to Al G.
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GR: Now would be a good time to talk to them since docs are being combined
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CL: What's status of the those docs?
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GR: Role and state combined then best practices separate as executive layer-type of doc
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GR: ARIA spec is getting really large to a primer is needed
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GR: Have nagging concern that best practices and checklists allow people to not go further
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CL: But in previous specs into details right away without big picture
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GR: EO group is preparing a frequently asked questions doc for ARIA...most abstract layer
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GR: If you go to PF group page the latest drafts are there prior to Editor's F2F last week
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GR: Actually they are pre-Tech plenary
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CL: Will have regrets next week
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JR: All, make sure to send your UAAG-perspective comments to the list
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GR: When HTML5 comes out, I'll do the UAAG review
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bye
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-Gregory_Rosmaita
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-cklaws
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-Jan
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WAI_UAWG()1:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Jan, Gregory_Rosmaita, cklaws
18:56:12 [Jan]
RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/17-ua-minutes.html Jan
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RRSAgent, set logs public
18:56:23 [Jan]
Zakim, bye
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RRSAgent, bye
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I see no action items