IRC log of i18nits on 2008-01-16

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meeting: i18n ITS WG

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chair: Yves

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scribe: Felix

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scribeNick: fsasaki

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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2008JanMar/0005.html

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I18N_TS()9:00AM has now started

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+Yves_Savourel

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+Felix

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Hi All

14:03:15 [YvesS]

Hi

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present: Bartosz, Felix, Yves

14:04:22 [YvesS]

Will you join us by pjone Bartosz?

14:04:29 [bbogacki]

sure

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I've got some problems with my line

14:04:39 [YvesS]

ok

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just a second

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topic: Action items

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ACTION-3 postponed until the end

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+??P15

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ACTION-11 feedback from XForms

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Felix describes mail from forms people

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-Bartosz

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Yves: would be great to have an example file from XForms people, so we could add ITS into it?

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+??P15

14:08:37 [fsasaki]

Felix: sounds good to me

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action: Felix to send another mail to Leigh Klotz about XForms example

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Created ACTION-59 - Send another mail to Leigh Klotz about XForms example [on Felix Sasaki - due 2008-01-23].

14:10:00 [fsasaki]

ACTION-33 and ACTION-45 , waiting for feedback from Richard

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close ACTION-53

14:10:40 [trackbot-ng]

ACTION-53 Change teleconf reservation back to usual schedule closed

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ACTION-54 pending

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ACTION-55 send comments to XLIFF

14:11:25 [YvesS]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2008JanMar/0011.html

14:12:14 [fsasaki]

Yves: XLIFF allows to have foreign namespaces in it, so it's easy to put ITS markup in here

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.. only request I'd have: an ITS rules for that maps to XLIFF

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Felix: Christian would be able to make that request, right?

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Yves: yes, we should ask him to do that

14:13:20 [fsasaki]

Felix: +1

14:13:47 [fsasaki]

handle this as part of ACTION-55

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ACTION-56 see http://www.w3.org/International/its/its-functionality-in-html5/

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Felix describes the approach

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Yves: people need examples show how to do this

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.. the example is a first good approach, it shows that it does not harm the browser and shows the ITS functionality

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Bartosz: agree, good idea

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Felix: will extend the example, give more backgroud info to ITS, and do more testing

14:23:23 [fsasaki]

Felix: what would you think about using CSS selectors instead of XPath?

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Yves: fine on paper, implementation is important

14:24:18 [fsasaki]

.. people who are implementing the localization process might not find a simple way to do that

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.. also not sure about implication on other aspects on ITS

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Felix: will make submission to conference, wait for feedback, come back to us and after that to HTML folks

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ACTION-57

14:26:25 [YvesS]

http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DesignTime

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Felix: looks good to me

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close ACTION-57

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ACTION-57 Work on summary tables closed

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ACTION-58 reminder for Felix for publication

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Yves: Richard posted notes about edits, he worked on sec. 4, edit marks are still in the document

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Felix: looks good to me

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Yves: OK to remove the edit marks

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action: Richard to remove edit marks

14:29:24 [trackbot-ng]

Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Richard

14:29:24 [trackbot-ng]

Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. rishida, frichard)

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action: rishida to remove edit marks

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Created ACTION-60 - Remove edit marks [on Richard Ishida - due 2008-01-23].

14:30:17 [fsasaki]

Yves: BP 8 had a missing example, I created one

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topic: BP document progress

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Yves: remove change marks, removing change log, version issue still TBD

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.. hope to have final document for next week

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Felix: propose publication on 29 January

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Yves: OK

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action: Felix to start publication process for BP doc

14:34:47 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-61 - Start publication process for BP doc [on Felix Sasaki - due 2008-01-23].

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topic: review

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s/review/review of other formats/

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action: Felix to look at SMIL Timesheets 1.0

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Created ACTION-62 - Look at SMIL Timesheets 1.0 [on Felix Sasaki - due 2008-01-23].

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topic: AOB

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Felix describes ITS IG charter progress

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-Yves_Savourel

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-Felix

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-??P15

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I18N_TS()9:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Yves_Savourel, Felix, Bartosz

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.. and ITS-2-Y

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki

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rrsagent, bye

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I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-i18nits-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: Felix to send another mail to Leigh Klotz about XForms example [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-i18nits-irc#T14-09-00

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ACTION: Richard to remove edit marks [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-i18nits-irc#T14-29-24

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ACTION: rishida to remove edit marks [3]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-i18nits-irc#T14-29-36

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ACTION: Felix to start publication process for BP doc [4]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-i18nits-irc#T14-34-47

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ACTION: Felix to look at SMIL Timesheets 1.0 [5]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-i18nits-irc#T14-36-37

14:44:42 [fsasaki]

zakim, bye

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