IRC log of forms on 2008-01-16

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15:42:29 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-forms-irc
15:42:35 [John_Boyer]
rrsagent, make log public
15:43:04 [CharlieW]
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15:43:57 [CharlieW]
John -- phone bridge still restricted for 10:45 start
15:44:07 [CharlieW]
checking with operator
15:44:48 [CharlieW]
josh is checking
15:44:50 [unl]
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15:46:09 [John_Boyer]
Charlie, are you on with an operator?
15:46:16 [CharlieW]
yes, josh is fixing the bridge
15:47:22 [klotz]
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15:47:22 [CharlieW]
working now
15:47:34 [CharlieW]
zakim, who is here?
15:47:34 [Zakim]
HTML_Forms()11:00AM has not yet started, CharlieW
15:47:35 [Zakim]
On IRC I see klotz, unl, CharlieW, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, markbirbeck, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:47:36 [wellsk]
zakim, who is here?
15:47:36 [Zakim]
HTML_Forms()11:00AM has not yet started, wellsk
15:47:39 [Zakim]
On IRC I see klotz, unl, CharlieW, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, markbirbeck, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:48:54 [John_Boyer]
Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Telecon
15:49:18 [John_Boyer]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0017.html
15:49:34 [John_Boyer]
Chair: John
15:49:37 [John_Boyer]
Scribe: Leigh
15:50:01 [John_Boyer]
scribenick: klotz
15:50:30 [Rafael]
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15:50:40 [John_Boyer]
Steven, are you there?
15:50:46 [Roger]
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15:50:47 [Steven]
woof
15:50:52 [Rafael]
zakim, code?
15:50:52 [Zakim]
the conference code is hidden, Rafael
15:50:57 [John_Boyer]
36767
15:51:21 [John_Boyer]
Steven, can you join the call?
15:51:31 [Steven]
oh, ogf course.
15:51:37 [Steven]
Sorry, forgot to reset my alarm
15:51:44 [Steven]
coming
15:52:06 [John_Boyer]
Regrets: Erik, Nick
15:52:15 [wellsk]
zakim, who is here?
15:52:15 [Zakim]
HTML_Forms()11:00AM has not yet started, wellsk
15:52:15 [John_Boyer]
zakim, who is here?
15:52:16 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Roger, Rafael, klotz, unl, CharlieW, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, markbirbeck, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:52:16 [Steven]
zakim, dial steven-617
15:52:19 [Zakim]
HTML_Forms()11:00AM has not yet started, John_Boyer
15:52:21 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Roger, Rafael, klotz, unl, CharlieW, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, markbirbeck, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:52:24 [Zakim]
sorry, Steven, I don't know what conference this is
15:52:33 [Steven]
ah, crap
15:52:42 [John_Boyer]
code = 36767
15:54:08 [John_Boyer]
John_Boyer has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0017.html
15:54:11 [John_Boyer]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0017.html
15:54:23 [John_Boyer]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0072.html
15:55:53 [Steven]
I asked for the change by IRC, but didn't send an email. I should have done
15:55:58 [Steven]
sorry
15:56:11 [Steven]
I have now
15:56:40 [John_Boyer]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-all.html#ui-processing
15:57:08 [Steven]
zakim, which call is this?
15:57:08 [Zakim]
I don't understand your question, Steven.
15:57:20 [Steven]
zakim, this will be forms
15:57:20 [Zakim]
ok, Steven, I see HTML_Forms()10:45AM already started
15:57:27 [Steven]
zakim, dial steven-617
15:57:27 [Zakim]
ok, Steven; the call is being made
15:57:29 [Zakim]
+Steven
15:58:02 [jturner]
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16:00:31 [jturner]
zakim, code?
16:00:31 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jturner
16:00:36 [unl]
zakim, mute me
16:00:36 [Zakim]
sorry, unl, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
16:00:57 [wellsk]
zakim, who is here?
16:00:57 [Zakim]
On the phone I see +1.919.254.aaaa, +1.250.294.aabb, [IBM], Leigh_Klotz, Ulrich_Nicolas_Lisse, Rafael, Steven
16:00:59 [Zakim]
On IRC I see jturner, Roger, Rafael, klotz, unl, CharlieW, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, markbirbeck, Steven, trackbot-ng
16:01:08 [wellsk]
zakim, aaaa is wellsk
16:01:08 [Zakim]
+wellsk; got it
16:01:26 [unl]
zakim, Ulrich_Nicolas_Lisse is me
16:01:31 [Zakim]
+unl; got it
16:01:44 [unl]
zakim, mute me
16:01:53 [Zakim]
+??P19
16:01:57 [Zakim]
unl should now be muted
16:02:12 [markbirbeck]
zakim, i am ?
16:02:23 [Zakim]
+markbirbeck; got it
16:02:47 [Zakim]
+??P22
16:03:06 [jturner]
zakim,P22 is me
16:03:06 [Zakim]
sorry, jturner, I do not recognize a party named 'P22'
16:03:18 [jturner]
zakim, ??P22 is me
16:03:18 [Zakim]
+jturner; got it
16:03:24 [jturner]
zakim, mute me
16:03:24 [Zakim]
jturner should now be muted
16:03:34 [Rafael]
Zakim, Rafael has Roger
16:03:34 [Zakim]
+Roger; got it
16:09:37 [John_Boyer]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-all.html#ui-processing
16:14:42 [markbirbeck]
http://www.formsplayer.com/node/384
16:15:51 [markbirbeck]
http://svn.x-port.net/svn/public/xformswg/styling/xf-10-default.css
16:20:28 [wellsk]
Thanks Steven
16:20:37 [klotz]
ACTION: Leigh Klotz to split appendix G.3 examples into two parts: a CSS file of stuff implied by the rest of the spec, using both CSS3 and the substitute class names from http://www.formsplayer.com/node/384; an example of form layout for elaboration later by others.
16:20:38 [trackbot-ng]
Created ACTION-446 - Klotz to split appendix G.3 examples into two parts: a CSS file of stuff implied by the rest of the spec, using both CSS3 and the substitute class names from http://www.formsplayer.com/node/384; an example of form layout for elaboration later by others. [on Leigh Klotz, Jr. - due 2008-01-23].
16:20:41 [John_Boyer]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/#deliverables
16:22:39 [John_Boyer]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_Future_Features
16:43:03 [John_Boyer]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Nested_models_for_convenient_grouping_and_composition
16:59:09 [markbirbeck]
+1 Charlie. :)
16:59:11 [markbirbeck]
http://www.w3.org/2004/04/webapps-cdf-ws/papers/webapps-workshop-standards-based-vm.pdf
17:05:25 [klotz]
ACTION: Charlie Wiecha and Mark Birbeck to work on straw proposal for making model optional, allowing submission elements without model elements, and allowign instance elements without model element. Results to http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_Future_Features
17:05:25 [trackbot-ng]
Sorry, couldn't find user - Charlie
17:16:13 [CharlieW]
sorry, didn't see this error...I'm on as CharlieW, is this a problem?
17:16:40 [Roger]
thx & bye
17:16:43 [Zakim]
-wellsk
17:16:44 [jturner]
bye
17:16:48 [Zakim]
-Leigh_Klotz
17:16:50 [Zakim]
-markbirbeck
17:16:51 [Zakim]
-Steven
17:16:52 [Zakim]
- +1.250.294.aabb
17:16:53 [Zakim]
-unl
17:16:54 [CharlieW]
CharlieW has left #forms
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-[IBM]
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-Rafael
17:16:58 [wellsk]
wellsk has left #forms
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-jturner
17:17:00 [Zakim]
HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended
17:17:02 [Zakim]
Attendees were +1.919.254.aaaa, +1.250.294.aabb, [IBM], Leigh_Klotz, Steven, wellsk, unl, markbirbeck, jturner, Roger
17:17:13 [John_Boyer]
rrsagent, make minutes
17:17:13 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
17:17:17 [John_Boyer]
rrsagent, bye
17:17:17 [RRSAgent]
I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-forms-actions.rdf :
17:17:17 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Leigh Klotz to split appendix G.3 examples into two parts: a CSS file of stuff implied by the rest of the spec, using both CSS3 and the substitute class names from http://www.formsplayer.com/node/384; an example of form layout for elaboration later by others. [1]
17:17:17 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-forms-irc#T16-20-37
17:17:17 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Charlie Wiecha and Mark Birbeck to work on straw proposal for making model optional, allowing submission elements without model elements, and allowign instance elements without model element. Results to http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_Future_Features [2]
17:17:17 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-forms-irc#T17-05-25