IRC log of html-wg on 2008-01-10
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/01/10-html-wg-irc
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- 16:58:24 [DanC]
- agenda + Convene HTML WG teleconference of 2007-01-10T17:00:00Z for up to 60 min
- 17:00:54 [MikeSmith]
- trackbot-ng, start meeting
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
- 17:00:58 [trackbot-ng]
- Zakim, this will be HTML
- 17:00:58 [Zakim]
- ok, trackbot-ng, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
- 17:00:59 [trackbot-ng]
- Meeting: HTML Issue Tracking Teleconference
- 17:00:59 [trackbot-ng]
- Date: 10 January 2008
- 17:01:06 [DanC]
- Meeting: HTML WG weekly
- 17:01:12 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, who's here?
- 17:01:12 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see [IPcaller]
- 17:01:13 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see RRSAgent, Sander, aroben_, aroben, Lachy, beowulf, timbl, anne-mac, aaronlev, deltab, zcorpan, gsnedders, tH, ROBOd, anne, mjs, Thezilch, gavin_, MikeSmith, jmb,
- 17:01:18 [Zakim]
- ... Dashiva, DanC, krijnh, gavin, Shunsuke, jgraham__, xover, heycam, shepazu, Yudai, Philip, jane, Hixie, trackbot-ng, drry, hsivonen
- 17:01:19 [Zakim]
- +DanC
- 17:01:24 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, IPCaller is me
- 17:01:24 [Zakim]
- +MikeSmith; got it
- 17:01:41 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, who's here?
- 17:01:41 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see MikeSmith, DanC
- 17:01:42 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see RRSAgent, Sander, aroben_, aroben, Lachy, beowulf, timbl, anne-mac, aaronlev, deltab, zcorpan, gsnedders, tH, ROBOd, anne, mjs, Thezilch, gavin_, MikeSmith, jmb,
- 17:01:46 [Zakim]
- ... Dashiva, DanC, krijnh, gavin, Shunsuke, jgraham__, xover, heycam, shepazu, Yudai, Philip, jane, Hixie, trackbot-ng, drry, hsivonen
- 17:01:50 [DanC]
- Zakim, take up item 1
- 17:01:50 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Convene HTML WG teleconference of 2007-01-10T17:00:00Z for up to 60 min" taken up [from DanC]
- 17:02:37 [DanC]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2008JanMar/0001.html
- 17:04:19 [DanC]
- ACTION-14 continues
- 17:04:47 [DanC]
- agenda + offline-applications-sql (ACTION-13 etc.)
- 17:05:34 [DanC]
- agenda + aria-role (ACTION-23 on GR, etc.)
- 17:06:23 [DanC]
- ACTION-32 continues
- 17:07:48 [DanC]
- agenda + canvas requirement and charter (ACTION-38)
- 17:08:19 [DanC]
- agenda + video-codecs (ACTION-39 etc.)
- 17:09:56 [DanC]
- agenda + toward HTML 5 spec release (ISSUE-19)
- 17:10:07 [DanC]
- Zakim, agenda?
- 17:10:07 [Zakim]
- I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
- 17:10:08 [Zakim]
- 1. Convene HTML WG teleconference of 2007-01-10T17:00:00Z for up to 60 min [from DanC]
- 17:10:10 [Zakim]
- 2. offline-applications-sql (ACTION-13 etc.) [from DanC]
- 17:10:11 [Zakim]
- 3. aria-role (ACTION-23 on GR, etc.) [from DanC]
- 17:10:13 [Zakim]
- 4. canvas requirement and charter (ACTION-38) [from DanC]
- 17:10:14 [Zakim]
- 5. video-codecs (ACTION-39 etc.) [from DanC]
- 17:10:15 [Zakim]
- 6. toward HTML 5 spec release (ISSUE-19) [from DanC]
- 17:10:22 [hober]
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- 17:10:47 [DanC]
- umm... we're below critical mass. I'm going to cancel in a few minutes unless a few more show up
- 17:11:25 [DanC]
- Zakim, take up item 6
- 17:11:25 [Zakim]
- agendum 6. "toward HTML 5 spec release (ISSUE-19)" taken up [from DanC]
- 17:11:37 [DanC]
- "30 answers have been received." -- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/wd-html5-spec/results
- 17:14:28 [anne-mac]
- Zakim, passcode?
- 17:14:28 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), anne-mac
- 17:15:02 [Zakim]
- +anne-mac
- 17:15:10 [anne-mac]
- Zakim, mute anne-mac
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- anne-mac should now be muted
- 17:18:48 [DanC]
- ACTION-24?
- 17:18:48 [trackbot-ng]
- ACTION-24 -- Gregory Rosmaita to suggest accessibility improvement for "Big issue" marker -- due 2008-01-10 -- OPEN
- 17:18:48 [trackbot-ng]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/24
- 17:19:01 [ChrisWilson]
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- 17:19:25 [DanC]
- hmm... withdraw 24?
- 17:19:32 [MikeSmith]
- action-24?
- 17:19:33 [trackbot-ng]
- ACTION-24 -- Gregory Rosmaita to suggest accessibility improvement for "Big issue" marker -- due 2008-01-10 -- OPEN
- 17:19:33 [trackbot-ng]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/24
- 17:20:08 [DanC]
- close action-24
- 17:20:08 [trackbot-ng]
- ACTION-24 suggest accessibility improvement for "Big issue" marker closed
- 17:23:01 [ChrisWilson]
- zakim, phone number?
- 17:23:01 [Zakim]
- I am sorry, ChrisWilson; I do not know a number for number?
- 17:23:24 [aroben]
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- 17:23:27 [DanC]
- Zakim, passcode?
- 17:23:27 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), DanC
- 17:23:27 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, code?
- 17:23:29 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), MikeSmith
- 17:23:39 [dedridge]
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- 17:23:40 [ChrisWilson]
- thx
- 17:23:49 [Zakim]
- +[Microsoft]
- 17:23:54 [ChrisWilson]
- Zakim, Microsoft is me
- 17:23:54 [Zakim]
- +ChrisWilson; got it
- 17:23:54 [anne-mac]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 17:23:56 [Zakim]
- anne-mac should no longer be muted
- 17:24:09 [DanC]
- Zakim, who's talking?
- 17:24:17 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, mute me
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- MikeSmith should now be muted
- 17:24:20 [Zakim]
- DanC, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: anne-mac (31%), ChrisWilson (12%), MikeSmith (30%)
- 17:24:45 [MikeSmith]
- I'm muted now, so that echo ain't me...
- 17:24:58 [DanC]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/wd-html5-spec/results
- 17:25:37 [DanC]
- Zakim, close this item
- 17:25:37 [Zakim]
- agendum 6 closed
- 17:25:39 [Zakim]
- I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 17:25:40 [Zakim]
- 1. Convene HTML WG teleconference of 2007-01-10T17:00:00Z for up to 60 min [from DanC]
- 17:25:47 [DanC]
- Zakim, close item 1
- 17:25:47 [Zakim]
- agendum 1, Convene HTML WG teleconference of 2007-01-10T17:00:00Z for up to 60 min, closed
- 17:25:50 [Zakim]
- I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 17:25:52 [Zakim]
- 2. offline-applications-sql (ACTION-13 etc.) [from DanC]
- 17:25:54 [DanC]
- Zakim, next item
- 17:25:54 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "offline-applications-sql (ACTION-13 etc.)" taken up [from DanC]
- 17:25:59 [DanC]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda
- 17:26:14 [DanC]
- ACTION-13?
- 17:26:14 [trackbot-ng]
- ACTION-13 -- Chris Wilson to talk to WebAPI and WAF WGs about their role in offline API stuff and how they work with and contribute to the discussion -- due 2007-12-13 -- OPEN
- 17:26:14 [trackbot-ng]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/13
- 17:26:40 [DanC]
- Zakim, mute me temporarily
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- DanC should now be muted
- 17:26:52 [DanC]
- Zakim, mute anne temporarily
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- anne-mac should now be muted
- 17:26:56 [Zakim]
- DanC should now be unmuted again
- 17:27:07 [Zakim]
- anne-mac should now be unmuted again
- 17:27:14 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 17:27:14 [Zakim]
- MikeSmith should no longer be muted
- 17:27:30 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, mute me
- 17:27:30 [Zakim]
- MikeSmith should now be muted
- 17:27:49 [DanC]
- ACTION-13 continues for 2 weeks
- 17:28:07 [DanC]
- Zakim, next item
- 17:28:07 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "aria-role (ACTION-23 on GR, etc.)" taken up [from DanC]
- 17:28:43 [DanC]
- ACTION-23 continues
- 17:29:13 [DanC]
- Zakim, mute anne temporarily
- 17:29:13 [Zakim]
- anne-mac should now be muted
- 17:29:22 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 17:29:22 [Zakim]
- MikeSmith should no longer be muted
- 17:29:28 [Zakim]
- anne-mac should now be unmuted again
- 17:29:38 [anne-mac]
- Zakim, who makes noise?
- 17:29:38 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, anne-mac.
- 17:29:39 [DanC]
- DanC: anybody know how many designs are in play?
- 17:29:50 [DanC]
- CW: I think they're down to 1
- 17:29:54 [DanC]
- DanC: details? pointer?
- 17:29:56 [DanC]
- CW: not sure...
- 17:29:59 [MikeSmith]
- anne-mac, who's making noise?
- 17:30:05 [DanC]
- ack anne
- 17:30:20 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, who's making noise?
- 17:30:30 [Zakim]
- MikeSmith, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: anne-mac (57%)
- 17:30:54 [DanC]
- anne: I think we're done, yeah...
- 17:30:58 [DanC]
- DanC: pointer?
- 17:31:07 [DanC]
- anne: role attribute and [what?]
- 17:31:47 [ChrisWilson]
- 'role' attribute and "aria-*"
- 17:31:48 [MikeSmith]
- aaronlev - has there been a final decision of a single set of markup for ARIA?
- 17:31:51 [anne-mac]
- aria-'property'
- 17:32:06 [DanC]
- DanC: is this in the html 5 spec?
- 17:32:08 [DanC]
- anne: not yet
- 17:32:19 [DanC]
- Zakim, next item
- 17:32:19 [Zakim]
- agendum 4. "canvas requirement and charter (ACTION-38)" taken up [from DanC]
- 17:32:31 [chaals]
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- 17:33:02 [DanC]
- ACTION-38 continues
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- Zakim, mute anne
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- anne-mac should now be muted
- 17:33:27 [DanC]
- discussion between DC, CW continues re canvas and charter
- 17:33:30 [DanC]
- Zakim, next item
- 17:33:30 [Zakim]
- agendum 5. "video-codecs (ACTION-39 etc.)" taken up [from DanC]
- 17:33:41 [DanC]
- action-39?
- 17:33:41 [trackbot-ng]
- ACTION-39 -- Chris Wilson to chairs to discuss action on video/audo codec and container with Philippe et al post the video workshop -- due 2007-12-20 -- OPEN
- 17:33:41 [trackbot-ng]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/39
- 17:34:45 [aaronlev]
- MikeSmith: yes, aria-'property' as anne said
- 17:34:55 [MikeSmith]
- aaronlev - thanks
- 17:35:28 [DanC]
- DanC: PLH and Chris L have the ball on this.
- 17:35:28 [DanC]
- DanC: we could suggest something for the html5 spec meanwhile...
- 17:35:28 [DanC]
- CW: what'st here now is OK
- 17:35:28 [DanC]
- DanC: yeah.
- 17:35:31 [DanC]
- close action-39
- 17:35:32 [trackbot-ng]
- ACTION-39 Chairs to discuss action on video/audo codec and container with Philippe et al post the video workshop closed
- 17:35:33 [DanC]
- close ACTION-39
- 17:35:33 [trackbot-ng]
- ACTION-39 Chairs to discuss action on video/audo codec and container with Philippe et al post the video workshop closed
- 17:35:37 [DanC]
- Zakim, next item
- 17:35:37 [Zakim]
- I do not see any non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, DanC
- 17:36:26 [DanC]
- Topic: next meeting
- 17:36:52 [DanC]
- CW: regrets next week
- 17:37:13 [DanC]
- DanC: ok, I'll chair next week
- 17:37:23 [DanC]
- ADJOURN.
- 17:37:27 [DanC]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 17:37:27 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/10-html-wg-minutes.html DanC
- 17:37:28 [Zakim]
- -anne-mac
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- -ChrisWilson
- 17:37:35 [DanC]
- RRSAgent, make logs world-access
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- -MikeSmith
- 17:38:04 [DanC]
- Zakim, list attendees
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- As of this point the attendees have been DanC, MikeSmith, anne-mac, ChrisWilson
- 17:38:07 [DanC]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/10-html-wg-minutes.html DanC
- 17:38:23 [chaals]
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- 17:38:53 [DanC]
- Chair: DanC
- 17:38:55 [DanC]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/10-html-wg-minutes.html DanC
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- -DanC
- 17:39:15 [Zakim]
- HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were DanC, MikeSmith, anne-mac, ChrisWilson
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- 18:00:05 [Lachy]
- oops, I forgot about the telcon.
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- 20:18:26 [jgraham]
- If anyone knows who is responsible for the html4all wiki (or is just on the mailing list) it might be nice to drop them a note suggesting they take some anti-spam measures
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- 21:29:50 [gsnedders]
- my organisation: flagging everything I need to-do/reply-to in email, even if it's just notification of a new comment on some social networking site :P
- 21:33:07 [Philip]
- Oh, that reminds me that I marked an email as to-do a week ago and then forgot about it
- 21:43:20 [gsnedders]
- Philip: I have one from 2005.
- 21:45:05 [Philip]
- That sounds highly organised - all my emails from around 2005 are just in a folder named InboxOld, and the ones from around 2004 are in a folder named d302f378
- 21:49:50 [gsnedders]
- yeah, my email is well organised… compared with this desk at least :)
- 21:50:18 [gsnedders]
- Why do I always title my homework then procrastinate?
- 21:50:37 [Hixie]
- the csswg continues to amaze me in their lack of ability to get it
- 21:51:09 [Hixie]
- oh they know
- 21:51:21 [Hixie]
- hell i've blogged about it and posted about it publicly at least twice
- 21:53:18 [Hixie]
- oldest e-mail in my todo pile (also known as my INBOX) is from march 2004
- 21:53:39 [gsnedders]
- anne: you mind if I procrastinate my revision for exams next week further by drafting something for XML5 charset detection?
- 21:54:00 [gsnedders]
- heh. my second oldest in 2007. :P
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- 23:57:58 [anne]
- gsnedders, I'd advise to focus on exams instead
- 23:58:25 [anne]
- s/'d//