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16:58:24 <DanC> agenda + Convene HTML WG teleconference of 2007-01-10T17:00:00Z for up to 60 min
17:00:54 <MikeSmith> trackbot-ng, start meeting
17:00:56 <trackbot-ng> RRSAgent, make logs public
17:00:58 <trackbot-ng> Zakim, this will be HTML
17:00:58 <Zakim> ok, trackbot-ng, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
17:00:59 <trackbot-ng> Meeting: HTML Issue Tracking Teleconference
17:00:59 <trackbot-ng> Date: 10 January 2008
17:01:06 <DanC> Meeting: HTML WG weekly
17:01:12 <MikeSmith> Zakim, who's here?
17:01:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller]
17:01:13 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Sander, aroben_, aroben, Lachy, beowulf, timbl, anne-mac, aaronlev, deltab, zcorpan, gsnedders, tH, ROBOd, anne, mjs, Thezilch, gavin_, MikeSmith, jmb,
17:01:18 <Zakim> ... Dashiva, DanC, krijnh, gavin, Shunsuke, jgraham__, xover, heycam, shepazu, Yudai, Philip, jane, Hixie, trackbot-ng, drry, hsivonen
17:01:19 <Zakim> +DanC
17:01:24 <MikeSmith> Zakim, IPCaller is me
17:01:24 <Zakim> +MikeSmith; got it
17:01:41 <MikeSmith> Zakim, who's here?
17:01:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see MikeSmith, DanC
17:01:42 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Sander, aroben_, aroben, Lachy, beowulf, timbl, anne-mac, aaronlev, deltab, zcorpan, gsnedders, tH, ROBOd, anne, mjs, Thezilch, gavin_, MikeSmith, jmb,
17:01:46 <Zakim> ... Dashiva, DanC, krijnh, gavin, Shunsuke, jgraham__, xover, heycam, shepazu, Yudai, Philip, jane, Hixie, trackbot-ng, drry, hsivonen
17:01:50 <DanC> Zakim, take up item 1
17:01:50 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Convene HTML WG teleconference of 2007-01-10T17:00:00Z for up to 60 min" taken up [from DanC]
17:02:37 <DanC> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2008JanMar/0001.html
17:04:19 <DanC> ACTION-14 continues
17:04:47 <DanC> agenda + offline-applications-sql (ACTION-13 etc.)
17:05:34 <DanC> agenda + aria-role (ACTION-23 on GR, etc.)
17:06:23 <DanC> ACTION-32 continues
17:07:48 <DanC> agenda + canvas requirement and charter (ACTION-38)
17:08:19 <DanC> agenda + video-codecs (ACTION-39 etc.)
17:09:56 <DanC> agenda + toward HTML 5 spec release (ISSUE-19)
17:10:07 <DanC> Zakim, agenda?
17:10:07 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
17:10:08 <Zakim> 1. Convene HTML WG teleconference of 2007-01-10T17:00:00Z for up to 60 min [from DanC]
17:10:10 <Zakim> 2. offline-applications-sql (ACTION-13 etc.) [from DanC]
17:10:11 <Zakim> 3. aria-role (ACTION-23 on GR, etc.) [from DanC]
17:10:13 <Zakim> 4. canvas requirement and charter (ACTION-38) [from DanC]
17:10:14 <Zakim> 5. video-codecs (ACTION-39 etc.) [from DanC]
17:10:15 <Zakim> 6. toward HTML 5 spec release (ISSUE-19) [from DanC]
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17:10:47 <DanC> umm... we're below critical mass. I'm going to cancel in a few minutes unless a few more show up
17:11:25 <DanC> Zakim, take up item 6
17:11:25 <Zakim> agendum 6. "toward HTML 5 spec release (ISSUE-19)" taken up [from DanC]
17:11:37 <DanC> "30 answers have been received." -- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/wd-html5-spec/results
17:14:28 <anne-mac> Zakim, passcode?
17:14:28 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), anne-mac
17:15:02 <Zakim> +anne-mac
17:15:10 <anne-mac> Zakim, mute anne-mac
17:15:10 <Zakim> anne-mac should now be muted
17:18:48 <DanC> ACTION-24?
17:18:48 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-24 -- Gregory Rosmaita to suggest accessibility improvement for "Big issue" marker -- due 2008-01-10 -- OPEN
17:18:48 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/24
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17:19:25 <DanC> hmm... withdraw 24?
17:19:32 <MikeSmith> action-24?
17:19:33 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-24 -- Gregory Rosmaita to suggest accessibility improvement for "Big issue" marker -- due 2008-01-10 -- OPEN
17:19:33 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/24
17:20:08 <DanC> close action-24
17:20:08 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-24 suggest accessibility improvement for "Big issue" marker closed
17:23:01 <ChrisWilson> zakim, phone number?
17:23:01 <Zakim> I am sorry, ChrisWilson; I do not know a number for number?
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17:23:27 <DanC> Zakim, passcode?
17:23:27 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), DanC
17:23:27 <MikeSmith> Zakim, code?
17:23:29 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), MikeSmith
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17:23:40 <ChrisWilson> thx
17:23:49 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
17:23:54 <ChrisWilson> Zakim, Microsoft is me
17:23:54 <Zakim> +ChrisWilson; got it
17:23:54 <anne-mac> Zakim, unmute me
17:23:56 <Zakim> anne-mac should no longer be muted
17:24:09 <DanC> Zakim, who's talking?
17:24:17 <MikeSmith> Zakim, mute me
17:24:17 <Zakim> MikeSmith should now be muted
17:24:20 <Zakim> DanC, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: anne-mac (31%), ChrisWilson (12%), MikeSmith (30%)
17:24:45 <MikeSmith> I'm muted now, so that echo ain't me...
17:24:58 <DanC> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/wd-html5-spec/results
17:25:37 <DanC> Zakim, close this item
17:25:37 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
17:25:39 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:25:40 <Zakim> 1. Convene HTML WG teleconference of 2007-01-10T17:00:00Z for up to 60 min [from DanC]
17:25:47 <DanC> Zakim, close item 1
17:25:47 <Zakim> agendum 1, Convene HTML WG teleconference of 2007-01-10T17:00:00Z for up to 60 min, closed
17:25:50 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:25:52 <Zakim> 2. offline-applications-sql (ACTION-13 etc.) [from DanC]
17:25:54 <DanC> Zakim, next item
17:25:54 <Zakim> agendum 2. "offline-applications-sql (ACTION-13 etc.)" taken up [from DanC]
17:25:59 <DanC> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda
17:26:14 <DanC> ACTION-13?
17:26:14 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-13 -- Chris Wilson to talk to WebAPI and WAF WGs about their role in offline API stuff and how they work with and contribute to the discussion -- due 2007-12-13 -- OPEN
17:26:14 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/13
17:26:40 <DanC> Zakim, mute me temporarily
17:26:40 <Zakim> DanC should now be muted
17:26:52 <DanC> Zakim, mute anne temporarily
17:26:52 <Zakim> anne-mac should now be muted
17:26:56 <Zakim> DanC should now be unmuted again
17:27:07 <Zakim> anne-mac should now be unmuted again
17:27:14 <MikeSmith> Zakim, unmute me
17:27:14 <Zakim> MikeSmith should no longer be muted
17:27:30 <MikeSmith> Zakim, mute me
17:27:30 <Zakim> MikeSmith should now be muted
17:27:49 <DanC> ACTION-13 continues for 2 weeks
17:28:07 <DanC> Zakim, next item
17:28:07 <Zakim> agendum 3. "aria-role (ACTION-23 on GR, etc.)" taken up [from DanC]
17:28:43 <DanC> ACTION-23 continues
17:29:13 <DanC> Zakim, mute anne temporarily
17:29:13 <Zakim> anne-mac should now be muted
17:29:22 <MikeSmith> Zakim, unmute me
17:29:22 <Zakim> MikeSmith should no longer be muted
17:29:28 <Zakim> anne-mac should now be unmuted again
17:29:38 <anne-mac> Zakim, who makes noise?
17:29:38 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, anne-mac.
17:29:39 <DanC> DanC: anybody know how many designs are in play?
17:29:50 <DanC> CW: I think they're down to 1
17:29:54 <DanC> DanC: details? pointer?
17:29:56 <DanC> CW: not sure...
17:29:59 <MikeSmith> anne-mac, who's making noise?
17:30:05 <DanC> ack anne 
17:30:20 <MikeSmith> Zakim, who's making noise?
17:30:30 <Zakim> MikeSmith, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: anne-mac (57%)
17:30:54 <DanC> anne: I think we're done, yeah...
17:30:58 <DanC> DanC: pointer?
17:31:07 <DanC> anne: role attribute and [what?]
17:31:47 <ChrisWilson> 'role' attribute and "aria-*"
17:31:48 <MikeSmith> aaronlev - has there been a final decision of a single set of markup for ARIA?
17:31:51 <anne-mac> aria-'property'
17:32:06 <DanC> DanC: is this in the html 5 spec?
17:32:08 <DanC> anne: not yet
17:32:19 <DanC> Zakim, next item
17:32:19 <Zakim> agendum 4. "canvas requirement and charter (ACTION-38)" taken up [from DanC]
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17:33:02 <DanC> ACTION-38 continues
17:33:05 <DanC> Zakim, mute anne
17:33:05 <Zakim> anne-mac should now be muted
17:33:27 <DanC> discussion between DC, CW continues re canvas and charter
17:33:30 <DanC> Zakim, next item
17:33:30 <Zakim> agendum 5. "video-codecs (ACTION-39 etc.)" taken up [from DanC]
17:33:41 <DanC> action-39?
17:33:41 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-39 -- Chris Wilson to chairs to discuss action on video/audo codec and container with Philippe et al post the video workshop -- due 2007-12-20 -- OPEN
17:33:41 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/39
17:34:45 <aaronlev> MikeSmith: yes, aria-'property' as anne said
17:34:55 <MikeSmith> aaronlev - thanks
17:35:28 <DanC> DanC: PLH and Chris L have the ball on this.
17:35:28 <DanC> DanC: we could suggest something for the html5 spec meanwhile...
17:35:28 <DanC> CW: what'st here now is OK
17:35:28 <DanC> DanC: yeah.
17:35:31 <DanC> close action-39
17:35:32 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-39 Chairs to discuss action on video/audo codec and container with Philippe et al post the video workshop closed
17:35:33 <DanC> close ACTION-39
17:35:33 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-39 Chairs to discuss action on video/audo codec and container with Philippe et al post the video workshop closed
17:35:37 <DanC> Zakim, next item
17:35:37 <Zakim> I do not see any non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, DanC
17:36:26 <DanC> Topic: next meeting
17:36:52 <DanC> CW: regrets next week
17:37:13 <DanC> DanC: ok, I'll chair next week
17:37:23 <DanC> ADJOURN.
17:37:27 <DanC> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:37:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/10-html-wg-minutes.html DanC
17:37:28 <Zakim> -anne-mac
17:37:31 <Zakim> -ChrisWilson
17:37:35 <DanC> RRSAgent, make logs world-access
17:37:43 <Zakim> -MikeSmith
17:38:04 <DanC> Zakim, list attendees
17:38:04 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been DanC, MikeSmith, anne-mac, ChrisWilson
17:38:07 <DanC> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:38:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/10-html-wg-minutes.html DanC
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17:38:53 <DanC> Chair: DanC
17:38:55 <DanC> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:38:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/10-html-wg-minutes.html DanC
17:39:13 <Zakim> -DanC
17:39:15 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
17:39:16 <Zakim> Attendees were DanC, MikeSmith, anne-mac, ChrisWilson
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18:00:05 <Lachy> oops, I forgot about the telcon.
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20:18:26 <jgraham> If anyone knows who is responsible for the html4all wiki (or is just on the mailing list) it might be nice to drop them a note suggesting they take some anti-spam measures
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21:29:50 <gsnedders> my organisation: flagging everything I need to-do/reply-to in email, even if it's just notification of a new comment on some social networking site :P
21:33:07 <Philip> Oh, that reminds me that I marked an email as to-do a week ago and then forgot about it
21:43:20 <gsnedders> Philip: I have one from 2005.
21:45:05 <Philip> That sounds highly organised - all my emails from around 2005 are just in a folder named InboxOld, and the ones from around 2004 are in a folder named d302f378
21:49:50 <gsnedders> yeah, my email is well organised… compared with this desk at least :)
21:50:18 <gsnedders> Why do I always title my homework then procrastinate?
21:50:37 <Hixie> the csswg continues to amaze me in their lack of ability to get it
21:51:09 <Hixie> oh they know
21:51:21 <Hixie> hell i've blogged about it and posted about it publicly at least twice
21:53:18 <Hixie> oldest e-mail in my todo pile (also known as my INBOX) is from march 2004
21:53:39 <gsnedders> anne: you mind if I procrastinate my revision for exams next week further by drafting something for XML5 charset detection?
21:54:00 <gsnedders> heh. my second oldest in 2007. :P
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23:57:58 <anne> gsnedders, I'd advise to focus on exams instead
23:58:25 <anne> s/'d//