IRC log of er on 2008-01-09
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-er-irc
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- 13:24:54 [shadi]
- zakim, this will be ert
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- ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
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- meeting: ERT WG
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- chair: Shadi
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2008Jan/0001.html
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- agenda+ New comments on EARL 1.0 Schema
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- agenda+ Updated "Content-in-RDF"
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- agenda+ Review of WCAG 2.0
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- WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has now started
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- +Shadi
- 13:33:40 [CarlosI]
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- +ThomasT
- 13:34:27 [JohannesK]
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- zakim, thomast is really Johannes
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- +Johannes; got it
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- +Johannes.a
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- zakim, johannes.a is really CarlosV
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- +CarlosV; got it
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- agenda+ F2F Planning
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- +Carlos_Iglesias
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- scribe: CarlosI
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- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1. "New comments on EARL 1.0 Schema" taken up [from shadi]
- 13:41:33 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Dec/0002
- 13:43:23 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/issues
- 13:45:31 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: think we drop heuristic
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- JK: we need a document that reflects last changes
- 13:48:10 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: there was a proposal for a InferredTest class
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- SAZ: the decision was that this is something related to test cases not to results
- 13:54:19 [CarlosI]
- RESOLUTION: ERT WG has considered representing relationships between tests and decided not to implement it at this version as it is something related to test casess and not to results
- 13:54:43 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Dec/0012
- 13:55:55 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: next issue about restrictions on properties in the schema
- 13:57:11 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: it must be precisely one constraint per restriction
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- RESOLUTION: accept the comment about properties restrictions
- 13:57:59 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2008Jan/0000
- 13:58:37 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: next about test summary properties
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- CV: the summary class is not so straightforward
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- CI: think the summary is useful but agree is not so straightforward
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- CI: We would need a container class
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- CI: The interesting thing for me is the grouping, not the summary
- 14:19:30 [CarlosI]
- RESOLUTION: Comment rejected as summary is associated with aggregation mechanism and the ERT WG has decided not to implement results aggregation on this version
- 14:20:16 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: following point is about use of dct:hasVersion
- 14:20:25 [CarlosI]
- http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/#hasVersion
- 14:21:05 [shadi]
- <rdf:Property rdf:about="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/relation">
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- <rdfs:label xml:lang="en-US">Relation</rdfs:label>
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- <rdfs:comment xml:lang="en-US">A related resource.</rdfs:comment>
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- <dc:description xml:lang="en-US">Recommended best practice is to identify the
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- related resource by means of a string conforming
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- to a formal identification system. </dc:description>
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- <rdfs:isDefinedBy rdf:resource="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"/>
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- <dcterms:issued>1999-07-02</dcterms:issued>
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- <dcterms:modified>2006-12-04</dcterms:modified>
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- <dc:type rdf:resource="http://dublincore.org/usage/documents/principles/#element"/>
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- <dcterms:hasVersion rdf:resource="http://dublincore.org/usage/terms/history/#relation-005"/>
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- </rdf:Property>
- 14:21:29 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: it refines dct:relation
- 14:22:48 [CarlosI]
- JK: definition of hasVersion "The described resource has a version, edition, or adaptation, namely, the referenced resource"
- 14:23:29 [CarlosI]
- JK: is the opposite of isVersionOf
- 14:24:00 [CarlosI]
- JK: think he is right
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- SAZ: me too
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- +1
- 14:25:45 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: looking for version in previous versions
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- ;)
- 14:25:51 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-EARL10-Schema-20050909/
- 14:26:51 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: this is first time version appeared
- 14:27:06 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: accept as is or look at other vocabularies?
- 14:27:13 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: e.g. DOAP
- 14:27:35 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: not sure if there's something in FOAF
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- SAZ: we had stability problems with DOAP before
- 14:29:12 [CarlosI]
- RESOLUTION: Acknowledgement of the issue and look for an EARL made substitute or something from other vocabularies
- 14:29:25 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 2. "Updated "Content-in-RDF"" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:30:28 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: take this back again for the next week
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- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 3. "Review of WCAG 2.0" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:32:20 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: worth reading
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- SAZ: not time know, take back again next week
- 14:33:11 [CarlosI]
- JK: a few editorial comments but nothing really interesting
- 14:33:53 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 4. "F2F Planning" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:35:06 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: tentative 20th and 21st February
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- CI: can't say anything until next week
- 14:36:54 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: if there are issues about WCAG on mailing list we could meet next week
- 14:37:23 [CarlosI]
- SAZ: otherwise no meeting next week
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- -Johannes
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- -Carlos_Iglesias
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- -CarlosV
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- disconnecting the lone participant, Shadi, in WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM
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- WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has ended
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- Attendees were Shadi, Johannes, CarlosV, Carlos_Iglesias
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- zakim, bye
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- rrsagent, make logs world
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-er-minutes.html shadi
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- rrsagent, make logs world
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see no action items