IRC log of wai-wcag on 2008-01-03

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rrsagent, make log world
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meeting: WCAG
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WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
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+Bruce_Bailey
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+David_MacDonald
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+??P1
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zakim, ??P1 is Bengt_Farre
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+Bengt_Farre; got it
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+Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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+Alex_Li
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+??P2
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zakim, ??P2 is Gregg_Vanderheiden
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+Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
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zakim, Gregg has Ben_Caldwell
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+Ben_Caldwell; got it
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+[IPcaller]
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zakim, [IPcaller] is Makoto_Ueki
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+Makoto_Ueki; got it
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+??P9
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zakim, ??P9 is Roberto_Ellero
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+Roberto_Ellero; got it
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+Cynthia_Shelly
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+Cooper
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+ +1.617.584.aaaa
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+??P3
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zakim, +1.617 is Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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+Andrew_Kirkpatrick; got it
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2008JanMar/0000.html
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q+
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scribe: awk
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Topic: Discussion/brainstorming on implementations
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need "black box" people - e.g. others at large companies.
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Need "white box" implementors too
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Need examples of what would be "good tests" and "reasonable tests"
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Examples need to be in units of "web pages"
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pages made up for this purpose are OK, but not only. Need real examples too.
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multiple examples for each criteria are needed.
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Need examples of LEvel A and level AA conforming pages
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q+
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ack a
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Idea to have "content" for submissions, require conformance statement.
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meant "contest", not "content"
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Need examples demonstrating different technologies
21:36:05 [Ben_]
zakim, who is making noise?
21:36:15 [Zakim]
Ben_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Alex_Li (84%), ??P3 (18%), Makoto_Ueki (18%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (14%)
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q+
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ack katie
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ack ??P3
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q-
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ack m
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ack l
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Need examples in multiple languages
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(mixed lang as well as non-english)
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q+
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ack a
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q- k
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qck m
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ack m
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JIS may have candidate implementors for us
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q+
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ack a
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+ +1.410.757.aabb
21:54:53 [Drew]
zakim, +1.410 is Drew_LaHart
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+Drew_LaHart; got it
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-Katie_Haritos-Shea
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ack l
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ack d
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+??P3
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WebAIm
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Adobe - for flash and PDF
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TPG (Paciello)
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others looking to sell their services
21:59:45 [MichaelC]
zakim, ??P3 is Katie_Haritos-Shea
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+Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it
21:59:53 [David_MacDonald]
zakim, who's making noise?
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Microsoft (at least 1)
22:00:04 [Zakim]
David_MacDonald, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Cynthia_Shelly (18%), David_MacDonald (4%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (38%), Andrew_Kirkpatrick (29%),
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... Drew_LaHart (5%)
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q+
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ack a
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zakim, mute me
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Drew_LaHart should now be muted
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David mentions "a bank" as a candidate
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Michael mentions fidelity
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Input to be put on wiki for people to look at and contribute to.
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TOPIC: Open Action Items
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TOPIC: Unpopulated techniqes
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ACTION: Everyone needs to sign up for undrafted techniques on wiki page
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TEchniques sumbitted to http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/TECHS-SUBMIT/
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-Alex_Li
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-Bengt_Farre
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-Makoto_Ueki
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-David_MacDonald
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-Cynthia_Shelly
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-Gregg_Vanderheiden
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-Cooper
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-Katie_Haritos-Shea
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-Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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-Drew_LaHart
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-Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, Bengt_Farre, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Alex_Li, Ben_Caldwell, Makoto_Ueki, Roberto_Ellero, Cynthia_Shelly, Cooper, +1.617.584.aaaa,
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... Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Katie_Haritos-Shea, +1.410.757.aabb, Drew_LaHart