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20:56:50 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
20:57:08 <MichaelC> meeting: WCAG
20:58:51 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
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21:01:01 <Zakim> +??P1
21:01:10 <bengt> zakim, ??P1 is Bengt_Farre
21:01:10 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
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21:02:15 <Zakim> +Alex_Li
21:02:17 <Zakim> +??P2
21:02:22 <Ben_> zakim, ??P2 is Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:02:22 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
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21:02:33 <Ben_> zakim, Gregg has Ben_Caldwell
21:02:33 <Zakim> +Ben_Caldwell; got it
21:03:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
21:03:06 <Makoto> zakim, [IPcaller] is Makoto_Ueki
21:03:06 <Zakim> +Makoto_Ueki; got it
21:03:36 <Zakim> +??P9
21:03:47 <rellero> zakim, ??P9 is Roberto_Ellero
21:03:47 <Zakim> +Roberto_Ellero; got it
21:05:37 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
21:09:39 <Zakim> +Cooper
21:10:13 <Zakim> + +1.617.584.aaaa
21:10:45 <Zakim> +??P3
21:11:03 <MichaelC> zakim, +1.617 is Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:11:03 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick; got it
21:12:19 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2008JanMar/0000.html
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21:13:56 <awk> q+
21:13:59 <awk> q-
21:14:44 <Ben_> scribe: awk
21:17:22 <awk> Topic: Discussion/brainstorming on implementations
21:21:34 <awk> need "black box" people - e.g. others at large companies.
21:21:46 <awk> Need "white box" implementors too
21:22:38 <awk> Need examples of what would be "good tests" and "reasonable tests" 
21:23:22 <awk> Examples need to be in units of "web pages"
21:24:12 <awk> pages made up for this purpose are OK, but not only.  Need real examples too.
21:24:38 <awk> multiple examples for each criteria are needed.
21:24:54 <awk> Need examples of LEvel A and level AA conforming pages
21:26:44 <awk> q+
21:29:03 <Loretta> ack a
21:33:59 <awk> Idea to have "content" for submissions, require conformance statement.
21:35:19 <awk> meant "contest", not "content"
21:35:46 <awk> Need examples demonstrating different technologies 
21:36:05 <Ben_> zakim, who is making noise?
21:36:15 <Zakim> Ben_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Alex_Li (84%), ??P3 (18%), Makoto_Ueki (18%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (14%)
21:37:25 <Loretta> q+
21:37:52 <Loretta> ack katie
21:37:59 <Loretta> ack ??P3
21:38:13 <Makoto> q-
21:38:58 <Loretta> ack m
21:40:43 <Loretta> ack l
21:42:07 <awk> Need examples in multiple languages
21:42:36 <awk> (mixed lang as well as non-english)
21:43:27 <awk> q+
21:43:50 <Loretta> ack a
21:50:03 <MichaelC> q- k
21:50:05 <MichaelC> qck m
21:50:09 <MichaelC> ack m
21:50:35 <awk> JIS may have candidate implementors for us
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21:54:34 <Loretta> ack a
21:54:37 <Zakim> + +1.410.757.aabb
21:54:53 <Drew> zakim, +1.410 is Drew_LaHart
21:54:53 <Zakim> +Drew_LaHart; got it
21:57:17 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
21:57:25 <Loretta> ack l
21:57:28 <Loretta> ack d
21:59:13 <Zakim> +??P3
21:59:16 <awk> WebAIm
21:59:25 <awk> Adobe - for flash and PDF
21:59:30 <awk> TPG (Paciello)
21:59:45 <awk> others looking to sell their services
21:59:45 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P3 is Katie_Haritos-Shea
21:59:45 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it
21:59:53 <David_MacDonald> zakim, who's making noise?
21:59:58 <awk> Microsoft (at least 1)
22:00:04 <Zakim> David_MacDonald, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Cynthia_Shelly (18%), David_MacDonald (4%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (38%), Andrew_Kirkpatrick (29%),
22:00:07 <Zakim> ... Drew_LaHart (5%)
22:01:18 <awk> q+
22:01:39 <Loretta> ack a
22:02:08 <Drew> zakim, mute me
22:02:08 <Zakim> Drew_LaHart should now be muted
22:04:57 <awk> David mentions "a bank" as a candidate
22:05:06 <awk> Michael mentions fidelity
22:09:17 <awk> Input to be put on wiki for people to look at and contribute to.
22:12:22 <awk> TOPIC: Open Action Items
22:13:30 <awk> TOPIC: Unpopulated techniqes
22:19:12 <awk> ACTION: Everyone needs to sign up for undrafted techniques on wiki page
22:25:16 <awk> TEchniques sumbitted to http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/TECHS-SUBMIT/
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22:33:37 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
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22:33:40 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
22:33:42 <Zakim> -Cooper
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22:34:42 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
22:34:43 <Zakim> Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, Bengt_Farre, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Alex_Li, Ben_Caldwell, Makoto_Ueki, Roberto_Ellero, Cynthia_Shelly, Cooper, +1.617.584.aaaa,
22:34:46 <Zakim> ... Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Katie_Haritos-Shea, +1.410.757.aabb, Drew_LaHart