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14:54:42 <francois> zakim, list conferences
14:54:42 <Zakim> I see Team_W3M()9:00AM active
14:54:44 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are MWI_BPWG()10:00AM, UW_UWA()9:00AM, Math_IG()10:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, Team_Global(review)8:00AM
14:55:26 <francois> zakim, this will be MWI_BPWG
14:55:26 <Zakim> ok, francois; I see MWI_BPWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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14:58:49 <Zakim> MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has now started
14:58:49 <francois> Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
14:58:57 <Zakim> +[W3C-Spain]
14:59:05 <francois> Date: 3 January 2008
14:59:13 <jo> zakim, code?
14:59:13 <Zakim> the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jo
14:59:39 <Zakim> +jo
14:59:41 <francois> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Jan/0000.html
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15:00:19 <DKA> zakim, code?
15:00:19 <Zakim> the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), DKA
15:00:29 <Zakim> + +049715aaaa
15:00:31 <miguel> Zakim, [W3C-Spain] is me
15:00:31 <Zakim> +miguel; got it
15:00:57 <Zakim> +DKA
15:01:05 <francois> zakim, aaaa is francois
15:01:05 <Zakim> +francois; got it
15:01:16 <DKA> zakim, who is here?
15:01:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see miguel, jo, francois, DKA
15:01:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see DKA, miguel, RRSAgent, Zakim, jo, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
15:01:49 <francois> zakim, mute me
15:01:49 <Zakim> francois should now be muted
15:02:15 <Zakim> +MartinJ
15:02:46 <Zakim> -MartinJ
15:03:18 <francois> Regrets: kai, adam, drooks, nacho, abel_rionda, achuter
15:03:32 <Zakim> +AlanTai
15:03:39 <Zakim> + +077761aabb
15:03:50 <DKA> zakim, who is here?
15:03:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see miguel, jo, francois (muted), DKA, AlanTai, +077761aabb
15:03:52 <Zakim> On IRC I see DKA, miguel, RRSAgent, Zakim, jo, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
15:04:13 <DKA> zakim aabb is Martin Jones
15:04:13 <jo> zakim, aabb is MartinJ
15:04:14 <Zakim> +MartinJ; got it
15:04:48 <DKA> zakim, who is here?
15:04:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see miguel, jo, francois (muted), DKA, AlanTai, MartinJ
15:04:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see DKA, miguel, RRSAgent, Zakim, jo, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
15:04:50 <jo> scribe: Jo
15:04:54 <francois> zakim, unmute me
15:04:54 <Zakim> francois should no longer be muted
15:04:55 <jo> scribenick: Jo
15:05:16 <jo> scribenick: francois
15:05:24 <jo> scribe: francois
15:05:26 <francois> zakim, mute me
15:05:26 <Zakim> francois should now be muted
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15:05:56 <jo> Topic: Good Standing Rules
15:05:59 <DKA> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/GoodStanding.html
15:06:05 <francois> DKA: Jo, you wanted to add the Good Standing Rules to the agenda
15:06:14 <Bryan> Bryan has joined #bpwg
15:06:20 <francois> ... and also an update on group membership in generally
15:06:37 <DKA> zakim, who is here?
15:06:37 <Zakim> On the phone I see miguel, jo, francois (muted), DKA, AlanTai, MartinJ
15:06:38 <Zakim> On IRC I see Bryan, DKA, miguel, RRSAgent, Zakim, jo, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
15:06:47 <Zakim> +Bryan_Sullivan
15:07:18 <francois> q+ to mention the existence of a draft page for a Good Standing rules tracker page
15:07:25 <Martin> Martin has joined #bpwg
15:07:43 <DKA> ack franc
15:07:44 <Zakim> francois, you wanted to mention the existence of a draft page for a Good Standing rules tracker page
15:07:44 <jo> ack f
15:08:21 <Alan_Tai> Alan_Tai has joined #bpwg
15:08:36 <francois> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/GoodStandingTracker.html
15:11:02 <francois> Francois: explaining the tracker page...
15:11:08 <jo> looks good francois!
15:11:17 <DKA> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/open
15:11:30 <jo> Topic: Open Actions
15:11:41 <francois> ... mostly automatic, but we'll still have to do a few things manually
15:12:05 <francois> Topic: Actions for the group in 2008
15:12:29 <francois> DKA: main action is the BP2 document. I believe we have an editor.
15:12:36 <jo> s/Topic: Open Actions//
15:13:00 <francois> ... now that we have an editor, we need to think about how we can start the document, put things together
15:13:12 <francois> ... I'm open to suggestions on how to start that.
15:13:32 <francois> ... In the meantime, let's go through the action log
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15:13:57 <jo> CLOSE ACTION-491
15:13:58 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-491 Send strawman mobileOK DR to the group list closed
15:14:14 <francois> ACTION-530?
15:14:14 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-530 -- Edward Mitukiewicz to draft a page on context and its effect on content authors etc -- due 2008-01-10 -- OPEN
15:14:14 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/530
15:14:23 <francois> ... Ed is not here today
15:14:43 <francois> ACTION-589?
15:14:43 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-589 -- Daniel Appelquist to look for one or more likely candidates to adopt techniques and make arrangements ref copyright and attribution -- due 2007-11-12 -- OPEN
15:14:43 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/589
15:14:59 <francois> ... haven't done anything on this action 589 yet
15:15:27 <francois> ... I'm gonna start working on ACTION-594 this week
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15:15:42 <francois> ... ACTION-603, Jo?
15:15:56 <jo> action-604?
15:15:56 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-604 -- Jo Rabin to elaborate current draft especially in the areas of requirements -- due 2007-12-04 -- OPEN
15:15:56 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/604
15:15:57 <francois> Jo: no progress 
15:16:29 <francois> DKA: We don't have a TF lead for the CT TF.
15:16:49 <francois> ... my suggestion is that we take the TF in the main part of the group
15:16:57 <francois> ... Jo, what do you think?
15:17:49 <francois> Jo: I would continue separate calls. Bryan, what do you think?
15:18:07 <francois> Bryan: Yes. For the moment, I would continue with separate calls.
15:18:35 <francois> Jo: We should review that end of January. We sould be close to working draft
15:18:53 <francois> DKA: so it's possible that we continue without requiring a TF lead.
15:19:16 <francois> Jo: I think it's not a good practice for me to be both Chair and Editor
15:19:17 <Zakim> + +1.630.773.aacc
15:19:28 <DKA> zakim, who is here?
15:19:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see miguel, jo, francois, DKA, AlanTai, MartinJ, Bryan_Sullivan, +1.630.773.aacc
15:19:30 <Zakim> On IRC I see SeanP, MartinJ, Alan_Tai, Bryan, DKA, miguel, RRSAgent, Zakim, jo, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
15:19:40 <francois> zakim, aacc is SeanP
15:19:40 <Zakim> +SeanP; got it
15:19:40 <DKA> zakim, aacc is seanp
15:19:41 <Zakim> sorry, DKA, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
15:20:03 <francois> ACTION-609?
15:20:03 <trackbot-ng> ACTION-609 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to get the work on the mobileOK test suite started -- due 2008-01-10 -- OPEN
15:20:03 <trackbot-ng> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/609
15:20:17 <francois> DKA: we'll wait for Dom to come back on that
15:21:01 <francois> ... The only other real opened action we have is ACTION-614.
15:21:31 <francois> ... Let's move on with open issues
15:22:15 <francois> ... We could start discussions on BP2... or I'm opened to suggestions
15:23:06 <francois> Jo: I have proposed that rather than spend unstructured time on BP2, we start to think a bit before the discussion. Bryan?
15:24:38 <jo> s/have proposed/propose/
15:25:01 <jo> +1 to closing the call
15:25:05 <francois> ACTION: Bryan to circulate his thoughts on BP2 so that we set up an agenda
15:25:05 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-616 - Circulate his thoughts on BP2 so that we set up an agenda [on Bryan Sullivan - due 2008-01-10].
15:25:06 <DKA> q?
15:25:28 <jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Happy New Year!
15:25:35 <francois> +1
15:26:05 <francois> DKA: OK, I think we're gonna close the call then..
15:26:21 <Zakim> -jo
15:26:22 <Zakim> -Bryan_Sullivan
15:26:22 <Zakim> -DKA
15:26:25 <Zakim> -SeanP
15:26:27 <Zakim> -miguel
15:26:28 <Zakim> -francois
15:26:30 <Zakim> -AlanTai
15:26:39 <francois> rrsagent, make logs publi
15:26:41 <francois> rrsagent, make logs public
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15:27:35 <jo> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:27:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/03-bpwg-minutes.html jo
15:28:03 <jo> Chair: DKA
15:29:40 <jo> zakim, who is here?
15:29:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see MartinJ
15:29:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see SeanP, RRSAgent, Zakim, jo, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
15:29:49 <jo> zakim, drop martinJ
15:29:49 <Zakim> MartinJ is being disconnected
15:29:50 <Zakim> MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has ended
15:29:53 <Zakim> Attendees were jo, +049715aaaa, miguel, DKA, francois, MartinJ, AlanTai, +077761aabb, Bryan_Sullivan, +1.630.773.aacc, SeanP
15:30:04 <francois> Present: miguel, jo, francois, DKA, AlanTai, MartinJ, Bryan_Sullivan, SeanP
15:30:17 <francois> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:30:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/03-bpwg-minutes.html francois
15:31:26 <jo> s/a good practice/good practice/
15:31:36 <jo> s/sould/should/
15:33:19 <jo> i/Francois: explaining/jo: wanted to weelcom representation from HP and welcome Martin Jones who is replacing Rhys from Volantis/
15:33:28 <jo> s/weelcom/welcome/
15:33:51 <jo> rrsagent, make minutes
15:33:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/03-bpwg-minutes.html jo
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15:37:21 <francois> zakim, bye
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15:37:25 <francois> rrsagent, bye
15:37:25 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/03-bpwg-actions.rdf :
15:37:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Bryan to circulate his thoughts on BP2 so that we set up an agenda [1]
15:37:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/03-bpwg-irc#T15-25-05