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13:58:30 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-egov-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/03/03-egov-irc ←
13:58:36 <sandro> zakim, this will be egov
Sandro Hawke: zakim, this will be egov ←
13:58:36 <Zakim> "egov" matches T&S_EGOV(DMngmnt)8:00AM, and T&S_EGOV()9:00AM, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: "egov" matches T&S_EGOV(DMngmnt)8:00AM, and T&S_EGOV()9:00AM, sandro ←
13:58:48 <sandro> zakim, this will be egov()
Sandro Hawke: zakim, this will be egov() ←
13:58:48 <Zakim> ok, sandro; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, sandro; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes ←
13:58:55 <sandro> rrsagent, make log public
Sandro Hawke: rrsagent, make log public ←
13:59:02 <sandro> chair: Kevin_Novak
13:59:46 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started ←
13:59:53 <Zakim> +Cory
Zakim IRC Bot: +Cory ←
13:59:59 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: eGov IG http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2010Mar/0002.html
Sandro Hawke: sandro has changed the topic to: eGov IG http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2010Mar/0002.html ←
14:01:02 <Zakim> +Daniel_Bennett
Zakim IRC Bot: +Daniel_Bennett ←
14:01:29 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
14:02:40 <Zakim> +CarlosI
Zakim IRC Bot: +CarlosI ←
14:02:46 <josema> zakim, CarlosI is me
José Alonso: zakim, CarlosI is me ←
14:02:46 <Zakim> +josema; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +josema; got it ←
14:04:23 <Zakim> +[LC]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[LC] ←
14:04:31 <edsu> Zakim, LC is edsu
Ed Summers: Zakim, LC is edsu ←
14:04:31 <Zakim> +edsu; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +edsu; got it ←
14:04:43 <Daniel_Bennett> all quiet on the telephone front
Daniel Bennett: all quiet on the telephone front ←
14:05:22 <Zakim> -josema
Zakim IRC Bot: -josema ←
14:06:52 <Zakim> + +03498429aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +03498429aaaa ←
14:06:58 <josema> zakim, aaaa is me
José Alonso: zakim, aaaa is me ←
14:06:58 <Zakim> +josema; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +josema; got it ←
14:07:13 <Zakim> + +1.202.626.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.626.aabb ←
14:08:02 <sandro> zakim, aabb is Kevin
Sandro Hawke: zakim, aabb is Kevin ←
14:08:02 <Zakim> +Kevin; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Kevin; got it ←
14:08:07 <sandro> zakim, who is on the phone?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:08:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see Cory, Daniel_Bennett, Sandro, edsu, josema, Kevin
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Cory, Daniel_Bennett, Sandro, edsu, josema, Kevin ←
14:09:18 <Zakim> +Rachel
Zakim IRC Bot: +Rachel ←
14:10:45 <edsu> josema: i think i may hav run into ruben in the bar maybe :-)
José Alonso: i think i may hav run into ruben in the bar maybe :-) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
14:10:46 <josema> zakim, mute me
José Alonso: zakim, mute me ←
14:10:46 <Zakim> josema should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: josema should now be muted ←
14:10:59 <josema> @edsu: ah, yes, good :)
José Alonso: @edsu: ah, yes, good :) ←
14:13:09 <Daniel_Bennett> and Daniel
Daniel Bennett: and Daniel ←
14:13:34 <josema> http://fose.com/events/fose-2010-paid-conference/sessions/tuesday/gt2.aspx
José Alonso: http://fose.com/events/fose-2010-paid-conference/sessions/tuesday/gt2.aspx ←
14:14:58 <josema> http://www.gov2expo.com/gov2expo2010/public/schedule/detail/12921
José Alonso: http://www.gov2expo.com/gov2expo2010/public/schedule/detail/12921 ←
14:15:07 <Zakim> + +1.303.748.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.303.748.aacc ←
14:15:53 <Daniel_Bennett> josh tauberer
Daniel Bennett: josh tauberer ←
14:16:06 <josema> and is josh on the call?
José Alonso: and is josh on the call? ←
14:17:10 <josema> zakim, aacc is probably brian
José Alonso: zakim, aacc is probably brian ←
14:17:10 <Zakim> +brian?; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +brian?; got it ←
14:17:19 <edsu> awesome, josh is a wg member now?
Ed Summers: awesome, josh is a wg member now? ←
14:17:46 <sandro> Cory, you said last meeting that you'd scribe this one.... http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/meeting/2010-02-17#line0075
Sandro Hawke: Cory, you said last meeting that you'd scribe this one.... http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/meeting/2010-02-17#line0075 ←
14:17:59 <Daniel_Bennett> fyi http://legalinformaticsresearch.ning.com/
Daniel Bennett: fyi http://legalinformaticsresearch.ning.com/ ←
14:18:14 <Zakim> -brian?
Scribe problem: the name 'brian?' does not match any of the 77 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Suzanne Acar Michael Aisenberg Jeremiah Albrant José Alonso Martín Álvarez Owen Ambur Miguel Amutio Oscar Azanon Esteire Thomas Bandholtz Hugh Barnes Chris Beer Laila Benhlima Daniel Bennett Robin Berjon Don Brutzman Cory Casanave Roberto Castaldo Dalila Chiadmi Kendall Clark Malcolm Crompton Samuel Deskin Li Ding Vagner Diniz Leigh Dodds Alan Doniger Maria Fernandez Ruiz Ken Fischer Rachel Flagg Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Aldo Gangemi Mathew Gilliland Hugh Glaser Jonathan Gray Brian Gryth Tanya Gupta Katie Haritos-Shea Steve Harris Adam Harvey Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke James Hendler Rinke Hoekstra Ilker Karakas Sergey Lizin Lanfranco Marasso Dave McAllister Bede McCall Faisal Monai Jacob Mumm Richard Murphy Brand Niemann David Norheim Kevin Novak David Osimo Vassilios Peristeras Pasquale Popolizio Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Sharron Rush Pietro Russo Ari Schwartz Luigi Selmi Jamal Shahin John Sheridan Ed Summers Christopher Testa George Thomas Clifford Thompson Trond () Undheim Tom van Engers Kurt Voelker Anne Washington Sylvia Webb John Wonderlich Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -brian? ←
14:18:15 <josema> I don't think so, according to http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=42481&public=1
José Alonso: I don't think so, according to http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=42481&public=1 ←
14:18:26 <josema> I know he reads the list since quite some time though
José Alonso: I know he reads the list since quite some time though ←
14:18:39 <Zakim> + +1.303.748.aadd - is perhaps brian?
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.303.748.aadd - is perhaps brian? ←
14:19:51 <josema> zakim, who's noisy?
José Alonso: zakim, who's noisy? ←
14:20:02 <Zakim> josema, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Daniel_Bennett (42%), Kevin (28%), brian? (23%)
Zakim IRC Bot: josema, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Daniel_Bennett (42%), Kevin (28%), brian? (23%) ←
14:21:38 <josema> zakim, who's here?
José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←
14:21:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see Cory, Daniel_Bennett, Sandro, edsu, josema (muted), Kevin, Rachel, brian? (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Cory, Daniel_Bennett, Sandro, edsu, josema (muted), Kevin, Rachel, brian? (muted) ←
14:21:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see annew, Rachel, edsu, Cory, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Daniel_Bennett, hughb, mhausenblas, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see annew, Rachel, edsu, Cory, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Daniel_Bennett, hughb, mhausenblas, trackbot, sandro ←
14:21:43 <josema> ack me
José Alonso: ack me ←
14:22:18 <josema> scribe: Cory
(Scribe set to Cory Casanave)
14:23:13 <josema> zakim, mute me
José Alonso: zakim, mute me ←
14:23:13 <Zakim> josema should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: josema should now be muted ←
14:23:35 <edsu> got to hear john sheridan talk about data.gov.uk at the 2nd linked data london meetup last week: mentioned URI Design for UK Gov't: http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/media/308995/public_sector_uri.pdf
Ed Summers: got to hear john sheridan talk about data.gov.uk at the 2nd linked data london meetup last week: mentioned URI Design for UK Gov't: http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/media/308995/public_sector_uri.pdf ←
14:24:40 <josema> nice doc, we've been using it at CTIC, recommend people to read it
José Alonso: nice doc, we've been using it at CTIC, recommend people to read it ←
14:25:26 <sandro> omg URL vs URI vs IRI. :-(
Sandro Hawke: omg URL vs URI vs IRI. :-( ←
14:25:51 <Cory> Micheal, Karen Myers continues to look for outreach potential.
Micheal, Karen Myers continues to look for outreach potential. ←
14:26:21 <josema> s/Micheal/Michelle, Vera
José Alonso: s/Micheal/Michelle, Vera ←
14:27:11 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/track/actions/open
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/track/actions/open ←
14:27:59 <edsu> btw, anyone else interested in general overview of Linked Data London meetup last week, Pete Johnston of dublincore.org wrote up a nice overview http://efoundations.typepad.com/efoundations/2010/02/the-2nd-linked-data-london-meetup-trying-to-bridge-a-gap.html
Ed Summers: btw, anyone else interested in general overview of Linked Data London meetup last week, Pete Johnston of dublincore.org wrote up a nice overview http://efoundations.typepad.com/efoundations/2010/02/the-2nd-linked-data-london-meetup-trying-to-bridge-a-gap.html ←
14:28:02 <josema> writing such a doc must be tough, convincing the government to implement it is tougher ;)
José Alonso: writing such a doc must be tough, convincing the government to implement it is tougher ;) ←
14:29:01 <Cory> Rachel: Next step is march 19th public comment on idea scale use for open government
Rachel Flagg: Next step is march 19th public comment on idea scale use for open government ←
14:29:07 <Daniel_Bennett> Rachel, can you put the link up?
Daniel Bennett: Rachel, can you put the link up? ←
14:29:23 <Daniel_Bennett> chocolate chip cookie policy?
Daniel Bennett: chocolate chip cookie policy? ←
14:29:27 <Cory> Rachel: Policy on cookies: )
Rachel Flagg: Policy on cookies: ) ←
14:31:07 <edsu> e.g. http://epa.gov/open/
Ed Summers: e.g. http://epa.gov/open/ ←
14:31:08 <Zakim> + +1.512.750.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.512.750.aaee ←
14:31:50 <Cory> Rachel: Please post your comments for open government, this is important
Rachel Flagg: Please post your comments for open government, this is important ←
14:32:10 <Zakim> -brian?
Scribe problem: the name 'brian?' does not match any of the 77 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Suzanne Acar Michael Aisenberg Jeremiah Albrant José Alonso Martín Álvarez Owen Ambur Miguel Amutio Oscar Azanon Esteire Thomas Bandholtz Hugh Barnes Chris Beer Laila Benhlima Daniel Bennett Robin Berjon Don Brutzman Cory Casanave Roberto Castaldo Dalila Chiadmi Kendall Clark Malcolm Crompton Samuel Deskin Li Ding Vagner Diniz Leigh Dodds Alan Doniger Maria Fernandez Ruiz Ken Fischer Rachel Flagg Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Aldo Gangemi Mathew Gilliland Hugh Glaser Jonathan Gray Brian Gryth Tanya Gupta Katie Haritos-Shea Steve Harris Adam Harvey Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke James Hendler Rinke Hoekstra Ilker Karakas Sergey Lizin Lanfranco Marasso Dave McAllister Bede McCall Faisal Monai Jacob Mumm Richard Murphy Brand Niemann David Norheim Kevin Novak David Osimo Vassilios Peristeras Pasquale Popolizio Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Sharron Rush Pietro Russo Ari Schwartz Luigi Selmi Jamal Shahin John Sheridan Ed Summers Christopher Testa George Thomas Clifford Thompson Trond () Undheim Tom van Engers Kurt Voelker Anne Washington Sylvia Webb John Wonderlich Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -brian? ←
14:32:41 <Zakim> + +1.303.748.aaff - is perhaps brian?
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.303.748.aaff - is perhaps brian? ←
14:32:51 <Daniel_Bennett> http://www.usa.gov/webcontent/open/tool_agency_poc.shtml
Daniel Bennett: http://www.usa.gov/webcontent/open/tool_agency_poc.shtml ←
14:33:13 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:33:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see Cory, Daniel_Bennett, Sandro, edsu, josema (muted), Kevin, Rachel, +1.512.750.aaee, brian? (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Cory, Daniel_Bennett, Sandro, edsu, josema (muted), Kevin, Rachel, +1.512.750.aaee, brian? (muted) ←
14:34:12 <josema> [silona joins the call]
José Alonso: [silona joins the call] ←
14:34:26 <josema> [talks about citability.org]
José Alonso: [talks about citability.org] ←
14:34:30 <sandro> Guest: Silona Bonewald, citability.org
14:35:17 <sandro> silona: technical solution, open, playing with everyone
Silona Bonewald: technical solution, open, playing with everyone [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:35:39 <edsu> -> http://dccodeathon.pbworks.com/ citability codeathon
Ed Summers: -> http://dccodeathon.pbworks.com/ citability codeathon ←
14:36:33 <Zakim> + +1.202.270.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.270.aagg ←
14:41:10 <edsu> sandro: heh, that was my first question too :-)
Sandro Hawke: heh, that was my first question too :-) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
14:41:39 <sandro> http://citability.pbworks.com/
Sandro Hawke: http://citability.pbworks.com/ ←
14:41:54 <edsu> -> http://citability.pbworks.com/Citable-Documents-Specification specification
Ed Summers: -> http://citability.pbworks.com/Citable-Documents-Specification specification ←
14:42:24 <sandro> http://citability.pbworks.com/Citable-Documents-Specification
Sandro Hawke: http://citability.pbworks.com/Citable-Documents-Specification ←
14:42:31 <sandro> (yeah)
Sandro Hawke: (yeah) ←
14:44:23 <Daniel_Bennett> or pdf
Daniel Bennett: or pdf ←
14:45:08 <Daniel_Bennett> legislink can create redirects to deep links in pdf text html and xml
Daniel Bennett: legislink can create redirects to deep links in pdf text html and xml ←
14:46:01 <Daniel_Bennett> rdf is semantic
Daniel Bennett: rdf is semantic ←
14:46:08 <Daniel_Bennett> cites are about references
Daniel Bennett: cites are about references ←
14:47:17 <Daniel_Bennett> so if RDFa document needs cites then there are references to points in a document separate from the semantics
Daniel Bennett: so if RDFa document needs cites then there are references to points in a document separate from the semantics ←
14:47:46 <Daniel_Bennett> provenance
Daniel Bennett: provenance ←
14:48:08 <Daniel_Bennett> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/
Daniel Bennett: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/ ←
14:48:09 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/ ←
14:48:12 <Cory> Citing of documents is related to provenance
Citing of documents is related to provenance ←
14:48:16 <sandro> (i'm too slow again!)
Sandro Hawke: (i'm too slow again!) ←
14:48:22 <Daniel_Bennett> (ha)
Daniel Bennett: (ha) ←
14:49:01 <Daniel_Bennett> http://microformats.org/wiki/citation
Daniel Bennett: http://microformats.org/wiki/citation ←
14:49:27 <Daniel_Bennett> HI ANNE
Daniel Bennett: HI ANNE ←
14:50:04 <Daniel_Bennett> thanks to anne for handle server for bills
Daniel Bennett: thanks to anne for handle server for bills ←
14:50:32 <Cory> Anne: Big picture - how governments make data available
Anne Washington: Big picture - how governments make data available ←
14:50:37 <annew> Hi Daniel
Anne Washington: Hi Daniel ←
14:51:40 <Daniel_Bennett> http://thomas.loc.gov/home/handles/help.html
Daniel Bennett: http://thomas.loc.gov/home/handles/help.html ←
14:51:58 <Cory> Anne: #1 request - RSS feed for legistration
Anne Washington: #1 request - RSS feed for legistration ←
14:51:59 <Daniel_Bennett> no time stamps necessary. thanks anne
Daniel Bennett: no time stamps necessary. thanks anne ←
14:52:19 <Daniel_Bennett> cory, think that was silona
Daniel Bennett: cory, think that was silona ←
14:52:21 <josema> s/legistration/legislation
José Alonso: s/legistration/legislation ←
14:52:30 <edsu> handles are basically purls, which are basically hacks for organizations that can't manage their url namespace imho
Ed Summers: handles are basically purls, which are basically hacks for organizations that can't manage their url namespace imho ←
14:52:45 <edsu> my 2 cents
Ed Summers: my 2 cents ←
14:52:58 <Daniel_Bennett> fair enough ed, but that is reality
Daniel Bennett: fair enough ed, but that is reality ←
14:53:05 <annew> Purls are different than handles in many ways however they are persistent URLS.
Anne Washington: Purls are different than handles in many ways however they are persistent URLS. ←
14:53:30 <edsu> the reality is that lots of purls and handles 404 if they aren't maintained :-)
Ed Summers: the reality is that lots of purls and handles 404 if they aren't maintained :-) ←
14:53:31 <josema> I'm wondering if citability (or handles) manage versioning
José Alonso: I'm wondering if citability (or handles) manage versioning ←
14:54:16 <Daniel_Bennett> however, the lack of persistence does not mean that the links can be used for metadata
Daniel Bennett: however, the lack of persistence does not mean that the links can be used for metadata ←
14:54:44 <edsu> josema: good question, i think versioing is the interesting part of citability
José Alonso: good question, i think versioing is the interesting part of citability [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
14:54:45 <Daniel_Bennett> jose, rather than versioning, it looks like it relies on timestamps
Daniel Bennett: jose, rather than versioning, it looks like it relies on timestamps ←
14:54:50 <annew> Handles does not manage versioning it . It manages provenance in fact.
Anne Washington: Handles does not manage versioning it . It manages provenance in fact. ←
14:54:54 <edsu> josema: goo question for silona i mean :-)
José Alonso: goo question for silona i mean :-) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
14:54:58 <edsu> s/goo/good/
Ed Summers: s/goo/good/ ←
14:55:31 <josema> ok, so...
José Alonso: ok, so... ←
14:55:37 <josema> q+ to ask about versioning
José Alonso: q+ to ask about versioning ←
14:56:20 <Daniel_Bennett> in the US Congress, versioning is part of of legislative reference
Daniel Bennett: in the US Congress, versioning is part of of legislative reference ←
14:56:39 <josema> I see, it makes things easier
José Alonso: I see, it makes things easier ←
14:56:54 <Cory> One thing that worked well for us is having a CMS (SVN) system update the RDF store metadata
One thing that worked well for us is having a CMS (SVN) system update the RDF store metadata ←
14:57:00 <josema> so far we are using versioning "W3C style" in our projects for Linked Data URIs
José Alonso: so far we are using versioning "W3C style" in our projects for Linked Data URIs ←
14:57:28 <Daniel_Bennett> fyi http://legislink.org/
Daniel Bennett: fyi http://legislink.org/ ←
14:57:31 <annew> Daniel, do you mean it is part of the legislative process? i.e. .rh reported in house vs ih introduced in house ?
Anne Washington: Daniel, do you mean it is part of the legislative process? i.e. .rh reported in house vs ih introduced in house ? ←
14:57:41 <josema> I mean, for the vocabularies, dataset metadata, resources...
José Alonso: I mean, for the vocabularies, dataset metadata, resources... ←
14:57:41 <Daniel_Bennett> yes anne
Daniel Bennett: yes anne ←
14:57:48 <Cory> Summary: There are initial tools for creating citable URLS
14:58:22 <Daniel_Bennett> and therefore no need to add versioning refs outside of the native version names ... ih rh..
Daniel Bennett: and therefore no need to add versioning refs outside of the native version names ... ih rh.. ←
14:58:38 <josema> ack me
José Alonso: ack me ←
14:58:41 <Zakim> josema, you wanted to ask about versioning
Zakim IRC Bot: josema, you wanted to ask about versioning ←
14:58:48 <Daniel_Bennett> http://advocatehope.org/tech-tidbits/embedded-citations
Daniel Bennett: http://advocatehope.org/tech-tidbits/embedded-citations ←
14:59:58 <CoryB> test
Scribe problem: the name 'CoryB' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Suzanne Acar Michael Aisenberg Jeremiah Albrant José Alonso Martín Álvarez Owen Ambur Miguel Amutio Oscar Azanon Esteire Thomas Bandholtz Hugh Barnes Chris Beer Laila Benhlima Daniel Bennett Robin Berjon Don Brutzman Cory Casanave Roberto Castaldo Dalila Chiadmi Kendall Clark Malcolm Crompton Samuel Deskin Li Ding Vagner Diniz Leigh Dodds Alan Doniger Maria Fernandez Ruiz Ken Fischer Rachel Flagg Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Aldo Gangemi Mathew Gilliland Hugh Glaser Jonathan Gray Brian Gryth Tanya Gupta Katie Haritos-Shea Steve Harris Adam Harvey Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke James Hendler Rinke Hoekstra Ilker Karakas Sergey Lizin Lanfranco Marasso Dave McAllister Bede McCall Faisal Monai Jacob Mumm Richard Murphy Brand Niemann David Norheim Kevin Novak David Osimo Vassilios Peristeras Pasquale Popolizio Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Sharron Rush Pietro Russo Ari Schwartz Luigi Selmi Jamal Shahin John Sheridan Ed Summers Christopher Testa George Thomas Clifford Thompson Trond () Undheim Tom van Engers Kurt Voelker Anne Washington Sylvia Webb John Wonderlich Mohamed ZERGAOUI Silona Bonewald Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'CoryB' does not match any of the 78 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Suzanne Acar Michael Aisenberg Jeremiah Albrant José Alonso Martín Álvarez Owen Ambur Miguel Amutio Oscar Azanon Esteire Thomas Bandholtz Hugh Barnes Chris Beer Laila Benhlima Daniel Bennett Robin Berjon Don Brutzman Cory Casanave Roberto Castaldo Dalila Chiadmi Kendall Clark Malcolm Crompton Samuel Deskin Li Ding Vagner Diniz Leigh Dodds Alan Doniger Maria Fernandez Ruiz Ken Fischer Rachel Flagg Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Aldo Gangemi Mathew Gilliland Hugh Glaser Jonathan Gray Brian Gryth Tanya Gupta Katie Haritos-Shea Steve Harris Adam Harvey Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke James Hendler Rinke Hoekstra Ilker Karakas Sergey Lizin Lanfranco Marasso Dave McAllister Bede McCall Faisal Monai Jacob Mumm Richard Murphy Brand Niemann David Norheim Kevin Novak David Osimo Vassilios Peristeras Pasquale Popolizio Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Sharron Rush Pietro Russo Ari Schwartz Luigi Selmi Jamal Shahin John Sheridan Ed Summers Christopher Testa George Thomas Clifford Thompson Trond () Undheim Tom van Engers Kurt Voelker Anne Washington Sylvia Webb John Wonderlich Mohamed ZERGAOUI Silona Bonewald Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown CoryB: test ←
15:00:07 <sandro> bzr or git
Sandro Hawke: bzr or git ←
15:00:39 <annew> about versioning of law, see Timothy Arnold Moore's work with Tasmanian, Australian & Singapore governments
Anne Washington: about versioning of law, see Timothy Arnold Moore's work with Tasmanian, Australian & Singapore governments ←
15:01:05 <Cory> bzr and git are distributed, where as subversion is not
bzr and git are distributed, where as subversion is not ←
15:01:06 <edsu> annew: are you still here at LC?
Anne Washington: are you still here at LC? [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
15:02:00 <annew> nope
Anne Washington: nope ←
15:02:05 <edsu> annew: :-(
Anne Washington: :-( [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
15:02:28 <edsu> still in dc?
Ed Summers: still in dc? ←
15:02:59 <Daniel_Bennett> http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/law/elj/jilt/2000_1/arnold/ Tim Arnold Moore / Tasmania experience
Daniel Bennett: http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/law/elj/jilt/2000_1/arnold/ Tim Arnold Moore / Tasmania experience ←
15:03:25 <Zakim> -brian?
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15:03:26 <Zakim> + +1.303.869.aahh
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15:04:31 <Cory> Jose: Different approach where versioning is in URI
José Alonso: Different approach where versioning is in URI ←
15:05:14 <annew> Thanks for the link Daniel. it's actually called point-in-time legislation so you can roll back the code to a specific day.
Anne Washington: Thanks for the link Daniel. it's actually called point-in-time legislation so you can roll back the code to a specific day. ←
15:05:45 <edsu> josema: before i forget, jeni tennison and john sheridan talked a bit about their approach to versioning, uris and linked data at the london linked data meetup that i think is sumarized here http://www.jenitennison.com/blog/node/141
José Alonso: before i forget, jeni tennison and john sheridan talked a bit about their approach to versioning, uris and linked data at the london linked data meetup that i think is sumarized here http://www.jenitennison.com/blog/node/141 [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
15:07:06 <Daniel_Bennett> hmmmm
Daniel Bennett: hmmmm ←
15:07:21 <josema> a vocabulary: http://data.fundacionctic.org/vocab/asturias/empleo/oferta-formativa
José Alonso: a vocabulary: http://data.fundacionctic.org/vocab/asturias/empleo/oferta-formativa ←
15:07:41 <annew> Is there an introductory email from Silona on the listserv?
Anne Washington: Is there an introductory email from Silona on the listserv? ←
15:07:52 <josema> the version of the vocabulary on 2009-09-01: http://data.fundacionctic.org/vocab/asturias/empleo/oferta-formativa_20090901
José Alonso: the version of the vocabulary on 2009-09-01: http://data.fundacionctic.org/vocab/asturias/empleo/oferta-formativa_20090901 ←
15:08:19 <josema> as I said, "W3C style" so far, will read J&J blog, too (thanks, edsu)
José Alonso: as I said, "W3C style" so far, will read J&J blog, too (thanks, edsu) ←
15:08:36 <Daniel_Bennett> we should discuss the difference between semantic data and references to documents some time
Daniel Bennett: we should discuss the difference between semantic data and references to documents some time ←
15:09:17 <Zakim> - +1.512.750.aaee
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15:09:23 <josema> [of course, http://data.fundacionctic.org/vocab/asturias/empleo/oferta-formativa.rdf ;)]
José Alonso: [of course, http://data.fundacionctic.org/vocab/asturias/empleo/oferta-formativa.rdf ;)] ←
15:09:30 <Cory> No more question for Selona
No more question for Selona ←
15:09:46 <josema> s/Selona/Silona
José Alonso: s/Selona/Silona ←
15:09:50 <josema> zakim, mute me
José Alonso: zakim, mute me ←
15:09:50 <Zakim> josema should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: josema should now be muted ←
15:10:19 <josema> [discussion on projects, attendance, how to improve]
José Alonso: [discussion on projects, attendance, how to improve] ←
15:12:14 <Cory> Daniel: Suggestion, combine everything into one call per week
Daniel Bennett: Suggestion, combine everything into one call per week ←
15:12:25 <Cory> Call times are an issue
Call times are an issue ←
15:12:47 <josema> I'm hearing frustration, and understand it (makes me remember early IG times with Kevin)
José Alonso: I'm hearing frustration, and understand it (makes me remember early IG times with Kevin) ←
15:14:13 <Cory> Kevin: Issues paper was done by a small group, it was a challenge
Kevin Novak: Issues paper was done by a small group, it was a challenge ←
15:14:27 <Cory> Kevin: Ends up that the leaders do it
Kevin Novak: Ends up that the leaders do it ←
15:15:38 <edsu> isn't http://www.w3.org/2009/06/eGov/ig-charter the charter?
Ed Summers: isn't http://www.w3.org/2009/06/eGov/ig-charter the charter? ←
15:16:04 <josema> @edsu yes
José Alonso: @edsu yes ←
15:17:07 <josema> clear and short deliverables, KISS, release soon & release often (might work??)
José Alonso: clear and short deliverables, KISS, release soon & release often (might work??) ←
15:17:28 <Daniel_Bennett> surveys lie
Daniel Bennett: surveys lie ←
15:17:33 <edsu> q+ to talk about fragmentation
Ed Summers: q+ to talk about fragmentation ←
15:17:49 <Daniel_Bennett> good intentions vs. reality
Daniel Bennett: good intentions vs. reality ←
15:17:55 <josema> [sandro mentions the disconnect between WBS results and people participation]
José Alonso: [sandro mentions the disconnect between WBS results and people participation] ←
15:17:59 <josema> and I agree
José Alonso: and I agree ←
15:18:00 <Cory> Sandro: Diconnect between survey and participation
Sandro Hawke: Diconnect between survey and participation ←
15:18:27 <Daniel_Bennett> +1 jose KISS and quick deliverables
Daniel Bennett: +1 jose KISS and quick deliverables ←
15:18:30 <josema> well framed, daniel
José Alonso: well framed, daniel ←
15:21:09 <josema> q?
José Alonso: q? ←
15:21:43 <Cory> Rachel: People want to be in the loop, but don't have time. Need practical things for people to do
Rachel Flagg: People want to be in the loop, but don't have time. Need practical things for people to do ←
15:22:28 <sandro> rachel: People wont respond to "we need help". They will respond to a specific request for something they can do to help. A task and due date.
Rachel Flagg: People wont respond to "we need help". They will respond to a specific request for something they can do to help. A task and due date. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:22:33 <sandro> (absolutely...)
Sandro Hawke: (absolutely...) ←
15:22:34 <Cory> Rachel: Give them tasks and due date
Rachel Flagg: Give them tasks and due date ←
15:23:13 <sandro> rachel: unless they feel their time is going to be very well spent, they wont just come and talk.
Rachel Flagg: unless they feel their time is going to be very well spent, they wont just come and talk. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:23:38 <sandro> rachel: don't sit around waiting, go ahead and write stuff.
Rachel Flagg: don't sit around waiting, go ahead and write stuff. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:23:39 <edsu> Rachel++ # good advice
Ed Summers: Rachel++ # good advice ←
15:23:47 <josema> q?
José Alonso: q? ←
15:24:48 <edsu> heh, i'll interject :-)
Ed Summers: heh, i'll interject :-) ←
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15:24:59 <josema> you should! :)
José Alonso: you should! :) ←
15:25:17 <edsu> this is good stuff though, don't won't to break it up
Ed Summers: this is good stuff though, don't won't to break it up ←
15:26:00 <Cory> Group: Seeding the wiki and controversial content will get people going
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Unknown Group: Seeding the wiki and controversial content will get people going ←
15:26:28 <edsu> :-)
Ed Summers: :-) ←
15:26:52 <sandro> daniel: We need to start the document justifying why government data should be stored on microfiche :-)
Daniel Bennett: We need to start the document justifying why government data should be stored on microfiche :-) [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:27:45 <annew> sandro: LOL
Sandro Hawke: LOL [ Scribe Assist by Anne Washington ] ←
15:29:06 <josema> feeds, uh? here you have a few http://www.netvibes.com/w3cegov :)
José Alonso: feeds, uh? here you have a few http://www.netvibes.com/w3cegov :) ←
15:30:27 <josema> +1 on coordinators blogging on W3C eGov Blog (good idea, Sandro)
José Alonso: +1 on coordinators blogging on W3C eGov Blog (good idea, Sandro) ←
15:30:37 <edsu> i wonder if we could aggregate other egov folks blogs (planet-style)
Ed Summers: i wonder if we could aggregate other egov folks blogs (planet-style) ←
15:31:18 <josema> @edsu likely, there's the always pending discussion about the W3C eGov home page (we were supposed to change it completely, then started to discuss wikipedia, then...)
José Alonso: @edsu likely, there's the always pending discussion about the W3C eGov home page (we were supposed to change it completely, then started to discuss wikipedia, then...) ←
15:31:26 <edsu> http://www.planetplanet.org/
Ed Summers: http://www.planetplanet.org/ ←
15:32:20 <Cory> Suggestion that we have a project focus after each general egov phone call
Suggestion that we have a project focus after each general egov phone call ←
15:32:43 <Cory> Daniel: Coordinators can then call meetings.
Daniel Bennett: Coordinators can then call meetings. ←
15:34:05 <Daniel_Bennett> kevin, rachel, john, do we have a meeting to discuss FOSE soon?
Daniel Bennett: kevin, rachel, john, do we have a meeting to discuss FOSE soon? ←
15:34:06 <edsu> josema: seeya
José Alonso: seeya [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
15:34:11 <Daniel_Bennett> ciao jose
Daniel Bennett: ciao jose ←
15:34:32 <josema> zakim, list attendees
José Alonso: zakim, list attendees ←
15:34:32 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Cory, Daniel_Bennett, Sandro, josema, edsu, +03498429aaaa, +1.202.626.aabb, Kevin, Rachel, +1.303.748.aacc, brian?, +1.303.748.aadd,
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15:34:38 <annew> byebye
Anne Washington: byebye ←
15:34:41 <Daniel_Bennett> and then drinks/dinner afterward?
Daniel Bennett: and then drinks/dinner afterward? ←
15:34:47 <sandro> ciao, annew !
Sandro Hawke: ciao, annew ! ←
15:34:57 <josema> bye
José Alonso: bye ←
15:34:59 <Zakim> -josema
Zakim IRC Bot: -josema ←
15:35:04 <Daniel_Bennett> ciao anne wash
Daniel Bennett: ciao anne wash ←
15:36:07 <Cory> Conclusion: Group will "defragment" for a while
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Unknown Conclusion: Group will "defragment" for a while ←
15:37:25 <Daniel_Bennett> but groups should still report SOW (statement of work) by next meeting
Daniel Bennett: but groups should still report SOW (statement of work) by next meeting ←
15:37:26 <sandro> sandro: I'll assume that unless the group coordinators tell me about a meeting, they wont be meeting.
Sandro Hawke: I'll assume that unless the group coordinators tell me about a meeting, they wont be meeting. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:41:57 <edsu> if we had action items, and had to come in here and report on them, i think we would get some traction
Ed Summers: if we had action items, and had to come in here and report on them, i think we would get some traction ←
15:42:07 <Daniel_Bennett> wait and see the attention on the Microfiche idea and using cuneiform rather than XML light up the Project
Daniel Bennett: wait and see the attention on the Microfiche idea and using cuneiform rather than XML light up the Project ←
15:42:15 <Daniel_Bennett> ;-)
Daniel Bennett: ;-) ←
15:42:30 <Daniel_Bennett> +1 ed
Daniel Bennett: +1 ed ←
15:42:46 <sandro> kevin: consensus is -- at the task group level, try to get something done; coordinate with Sandro if you want a telecon
Kevin Novak: consensus is -- at the task group level, try to get something done; coordinate with Sandro if you want a telecon [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:42:56 <edsu> Daniel_Bennett: maybe we could use a memex subgroup? ;->
Daniel Bennett: maybe we could use a memex subgroup? ;-> [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
15:43:17 <Daniel_Bennett> +3 ed
Daniel Bennett: +3 ed ←
15:45:13 <Daniel_Bennett> fyi, 15mins over on call
Daniel Bennett: fyi, 15mins over on call ←
15:45:54 <Daniel_Bennett> bye
Daniel Bennett: bye ←
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Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.303.869.aahh ←
15:45:57 <Zakim> -edsu
Zakim IRC Bot: -edsu ←
15:45:59 <Zakim> -Rachel
Zakim IRC Bot: -Rachel ←
15:46:00 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Kevin ←
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Daniel_Bennett ←
15:46:56 <Cory> Joint meeting with OMG-Egov - Thursady, March 25th @ 1:30
Joint meeting with OMG-Egov - Thursady, March 25th @ 1:30 ←
15:47:01 <Cory> bye
bye ←
15:47:29 <Zakim> -Cory
Zakim IRC Bot: -Cory ←
15:47:30 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended ←
15:47:31 <Zakim> Attendees were Cory, Daniel_Bennett, Sandro, josema, edsu, +03498429aaaa, +1.202.626.aabb, Kevin, Rachel, +1.303.748.aacc, brian?, +1.303.748.aadd, +1.512.750.aaee,
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16:49:19 <Chris> Morning
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Unknown Chris: Morning ←
17:05:01 <Chris> trackbot-ng
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17:05:11 <Chris> trackbot-ng, start telcon
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Unknown Chris: trackbot-ng, start telcon ←
17:05:14 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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17:05:16 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be EGOV ←
17:05:16 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV(UseWebTech)12:00PM scheduled to start 5 minutes ago
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV(UseWebTech)12:00PM scheduled to start 5 minutes ago ←
17:05:17 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
17:05:17 <trackbot> Date: 03 March 2010
17:09:02 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(UseWebTech)12:00PM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV(UseWebTech)12:00PM has now started ←
17:09:10 <Zakim> + +61.4.286.0.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +61.4.286.0.aaaa ←
17:09:50 <Chris> scribe: Chris
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17:15:32 <Chris> this [conference] is <UseWebTech>
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this [conference] is <UseWebTech> ←
17:15:52 <Chris> zakim, list conferences
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zakim, list conferences ←
17:15:52 <Zakim> I see Style_CSS FP()12:00PM, WAI_PF()12:00PM, INC_SWXG()11:00AM, T&S_EGOV(UseWebTech)12:00PM, VB_VBWG(SCXML)12:00PM active
Zakim IRC Bot: I see Style_CSS FP()12:00PM, WAI_PF()12:00PM, INC_SWXG()11:00AM, T&S_EGOV(UseWebTech)12:00PM, VB_VBWG(SCXML)12:00PM active ←
17:15:57 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are GA_WebCGM()11:00AM, XML_EXI()12:30PM, I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM
Zakim IRC Bot: also scheduled at this time are GA_WebCGM()11:00AM, XML_EXI()12:30PM, I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM ←
17:16:17 <Chris> zakim, this is UseWebTech
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zakim, this is UseWebTech ←
17:16:17 <Zakim> Chris, this was already T&S_EGOV(UseWebTech)12:00PM
Zakim IRC Bot: Chris, this was already T&S_EGOV(UseWebTech)12:00PM ←
17:16:18 <Zakim> ok, Chris; that matches T&S_EGOV(UseWebTech)12:00PM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Chris; that matches T&S_EGOV(UseWebTech)12:00PM ←
17:16:36 <Chris> zakim, who's here
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zakim, who's here ←
17:16:36 <Zakim> Chris, you need to end that query with '?'
Zakim IRC Bot: Chris, you need to end that query with '?' ←
17:16:42 <Chris> zakim, who's here?
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zakim, who's here? ←
17:16:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see +61.4.286.0.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +61.4.286.0.aaaa ←
17:16:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see Chris, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, hughb, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Chris, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, hughb, trackbot, sandro ←
17:17:43 <Chris> zakim, +61.4.286.0.aaaa is Chris
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zakim, +61.4.286.0.aaaa is Chris ←
17:17:43 <Zakim> +Chris; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Chris; got it ←
17:28:35 <sandro> ah well. :-(
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Sandro Hawke: ah well. :-( ←
17:28:55 <Chris> yeah - hanging for 5 more - Brian emailed to say he'd be late
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yeah - hanging for 5 more - Brian emailed to say he'd be late ←
17:29:33 <sandro> in the IG meeting today, we basically agreed to only have these other calls when/if needed. clearly people don't want to just talk.
Sandro Hawke: in the IG meeting today, we basically agreed to only have these other calls when/if needed. clearly people don't want to just talk. ←
17:30:17 <Chris> Discussion forum might be an option - I'll make one and see if it generates interest
Scribe problem: the name 'Chris' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Christopher Testa Chris Beer . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Scribe problem: the name 'Chris' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Christopher Testa Chris Beer . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Discussion forum might be an option - I'll make one and see if it generates interest ←
17:31:09 <Chris> If nothing else, it was good to get my head around Zakim, the bridge etc.
Scribe problem: the name 'Chris' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Christopher Testa Chris Beer . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Scribe problem: the name 'Chris' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Christopher Testa Chris Beer . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
If nothing else, it was good to get my head around Zakim, the bridge etc. ←
17:31:32 <Chris> Means you have another scribe for the IG calls :)
Scribe problem: the name 'Chris' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Christopher Testa Chris Beer . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Scribe problem: the name 'Chris' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Christopher Testa Chris Beer . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Means you have another scribe for the IG calls :) ←
17:34:13 <Zakim> -Chris
Scribe problem: the name 'Chris' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Christopher Testa Chris Beer . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Zakim IRC Bot: -Chris ←
17:34:14 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(UseWebTech)12:00PM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV(UseWebTech)12:00PM has ended ←
17:34:14 <Zakim> Attendees were Chris
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Chris ←
17:35:19 <Chris> Talk later :) Catching a few more hours sleep
Scribe problem: the name 'Chris' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Christopher Testa Chris Beer . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Scribe problem: the name 'Chris' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Christopher Testa Chris Beer . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
Talk later :) Catching a few more hours sleep ←
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