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13:35:29 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/10/28-egov-irc
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13:37:20 <johnlsheridan> zakim, this is egov
zakim, this is egov ←
13:37:20 <Zakim> ok, johnlsheridan; that matches T&S_EGOV()9:00AM
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13:37:56 <johnlsheridan> zakim, who's here?
zakim, who's here? ←
13:37:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0, +1.202.449.aaaa, +1.202.731.aacc, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.410.992.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P0, +1.202.449.aaaa, +1.202.731.aacc, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.410.992.aaee ←
13:37:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, joec, Rachel, Daniel_Bennett, AdamHarvey, Owen, johnlsheridan, ChrisBeer, hughb, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, joec, Rachel, Daniel_Bennett, AdamHarvey, Owen, johnlsheridan, ChrisBeer, hughb, sandro, trackbot ←
13:40:44 <johnlsheridan> agenda?
agenda? ←
13:41:39 <Daniel_Bennett> in lieu of an agenda, Kevin sent an email yesterday to the group
Daniel Bennett: in lieu of an agenda, Kevin sent an email yesterday to the group ←
13:42:13 <johnlsheridan> OK, thanks Daniel
OK, thanks Daniel ←
13:42:14 <Daniel_Bennett> We will be meeting. I will only be able to Chair from 9am EST to 10 am EST given some other meetings. John S is scheduled to scribe.
Daniel Bennett: We will be meeting. I will only be able to Chair from 9am EST to 10 am EST given some other meetings. John S is scheduled to scribe. ←
13:42:16 <Daniel_Bennett> Major topic to discuss will be the work items listed below. The Chairs met a couple weeks ago and crafted the five major buckets below as we work through developing the activity plan to bridge the new charter. Please review and we will discuss on the call. We want to get group input and feedback on whether these are the right buckets, contain the right direction and product, and do they...
Daniel Bennett: Major topic to discuss will be the work items listed below. The Chairs met a couple weeks ago and crafted the five major buckets below as we work through developing the activity plan to bridge the new charter. Please review and we will discuss on the call. We want to get group input and feedback on whether these are the right buckets, contain the right direction and product, and do they... ←
13:42:18 <Daniel_Bennett> ...allow us to move forward with an achievable work plan. If we agree on the following, we would suggest to the group to begin building task groups focused on the individual areas to best take advantage of the varied expertise that we have in the group. The below are in addition to the current activities including Editorial Task Force.
Daniel Bennett: ...allow us to move forward with an achievable work plan. If we agree on the following, we would suggest to the group to begin building task groups focused on the individual areas to best take advantage of the varied expertise that we have in the group. The below are in addition to the current activities including Editorial Task Force. ←
13:42:33 <Daniel_Bennett> 1. Government Linked Data: Techniques and Technologies
Daniel Bennett: 1. Government Linked Data: Techniques and Technologies ←
13:42:42 <Daniel_Bennett> 2. Government Linked Data: Strategies and Success Stories
Daniel Bennett: 2. Government Linked Data: Strategies and Success Stories ←
13:42:52 <Daniel_Bennett> 3. Best Practices for Using Web Technologies to Deliver Government Services.
Daniel Bennett: 3. Best Practices for Using Web Technologies to Deliver Government Services. ←
13:43:02 <Daniel_Bennett> 4. Best Practices for Long-Term Government Data Management.
Daniel Bennett: 4. Best Practices for Long-Term Government Data Management. ←
13:43:10 <Daniel_Bennett> 5. Issues and Best Practices in Government Use of Social Media.
Daniel Bennett: 5. Issues and Best Practices in Government Use of Social Media. ←
13:47:48 <Zakim> + +39.080.408.aaff
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13:48:04 <johnlsheridan> aaff is johnlsheridan
aaff is johnlsheridan ←
13:48:05 <Daniel_Bennett> (above 8 from me is copied from Kevin N. email)
Daniel Bennett: (above 8 from me is copied from Kevin N. email) ←
13:48:27 <johnlsheridan> zakim aaff is johnlsheridan
zakim aaff is johnlsheridan ←
13:48:59 <johnlsheridan> zakim, +39.080.408.aaff is johnlsheridan
zakim, +39.080.408.aaff is johnlsheridan ←
13:48:59 <Zakim> +johnlsheridan; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +johnlsheridan; got it ←
13:50:18 <johnlsheridan> chair, Kevin
chair, Kevin ←
13:50:29 <johnlsheridan> zakim, chair is Kevin
zakim, chair is Kevin ←
13:50:29 <Zakim> sorry, johnlsheridan, I do not recognize a party named 'chair'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, johnlsheridan, I do not recognize a party named 'chair' ←
13:52:29 <johnlsheridan> agenda 1 = Current Activities
agenda 1 = Current Activities ←
13:53:03 <johnlsheridan> agenda+ Current Activities
agenda+ Current Activities ←
13:53:39 <Daniel_Bennett> fyi link from ISWC that is about data.gov http://data-gov.tw.rpi.edu/wiki/Main_Page
Daniel Bennett: fyi link from ISWC that is about data.gov http://data-gov.tw.rpi.edu/wiki/Main_Page ←
13:53:56 <johnlsheridan> take up 1
take up 1 ←
13:54:19 <johnlsheridan> zakim, open agendum 1
zakim, open agendum 1 ←
13:54:19 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Current Activities" taken up [from johnlsheridan]
Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 1. "Current Activities" taken up [from johnlsheridan] ←
13:54:53 <johnlsheridan> Discussion around linked data and government
Discussion around linked data and government ←
13:55:55 <johnlsheridan> q+
q+ ←
13:57:03 <johnlsheridan> Kevin: government needs to provide context, so people understand what the data is *about*
Kevin Novak: government needs to provide context, so people understand what the data is *about* ←
13:58:03 <johnlsheridan> Rachel: highlighting the comms gap between policy folk and web publishing folk inside a gov agency / dept
Rachel Flagg: highlighting the comms gap between policy folk and web publishing folk inside a gov agency / dept ←
13:58:21 <johnlsheridan> q-
q- ←
13:58:25 <ChrisBeer> +q
Chris Beer: +q ←
13:59:06 <johnlsheridan> Daniel: working on XBRL, we already have standards for financial information, but the data is locked up in the systems that produce the data
Daniel Bennett: working on XBRL, we already have standards for financial information, but the data is locked up in the systems that produce the data ←
13:59:37 <johnlsheridan> Daniel: a lot of what has to be done is to understand the systems that are processing the data on a day to day basis - where is the data coming from?
Daniel Bennett: a lot of what has to be done is to understand the systems that are processing the data on a day to day basis - where is the data coming from? ←
14:00:13 <johnlsheridan> Daniel, havve you seen: http://www.jenitennison.com/blog/node/133 ?
Daniel, havve you seen: http://www.jenitennison.com/blog/node/133 ? ←
14:00:42 <johnlsheridan> Linked data affords us the opportunity to express provenance information, in a way we've not done before
Linked data affords us the opportunity to express provenance information, in a way we've not done before ←
14:01:16 <johnlsheridan> Kevin: what we're looking for are volunteers of people to lead the taskforces
Kevin Novak: what we're looking for are volunteers of people to lead the taskforces ←
14:01:58 <Zakim> - +1.202.731.aacc
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14:02:35 <Daniel_Bennett> John, I havent read this. thanks
Daniel Bennett: John, I havent read this. thanks ←
14:02:57 <johnlsheridan> ack chrisbeer
ack chrisbeer ←
14:03:31 <ChrisBeer> Comment to Rachels last - Add Techs in there - neither policy or web pubs tend to deal with datasets perse
Chris Beer: Comment to Rachels last - Add Techs in there - neither policy or web pubs tend to deal with datasets perse ←
14:03:40 <Daniel_Bennett> you may have missed that the Provenance Incubator Group wants to liaison
Daniel Bennett: you may have missed that the Provenance Incubator Group wants to liaison ←
14:03:50 <Daniel_Bennett> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/charter
Daniel Bennett: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/charter ←
14:05:13 <ChrisBeer> @ Kevin - happy to be involved in Task 3 - let me know if you find no one to head the group as well.
Chris Beer: @ Kevin - happy to be involved in Task 3 - let me know if you find no one to head the group as well. ←
14:06:13 <Daniel_Bennett> @Interested in Task3 as well
Daniel Bennett: @Interested in Task3 as well ←
14:07:40 <johnlsheridan> Thanks Chris, I think we'll be taking you up on that :)
Thanks Chris, I think we'll be taking you up on that :) ←
14:07:54 <AdamHarvey> Wasn't there also a Communications Task Force? I'll help with that in addtion to being on the ETF
Adam Harvey: Wasn't there also a Communications Task Force? I'll help with that in addtion to being on the ETF ←
14:10:35 <ChrisBeer> @Task 5 - can we advise on ethics as a standards based org?
Chris Beer: @Task 5 - can we advise on ethics as a standards based org? ←
14:12:03 <johnlsheridan> Rachel: just throwing out data is not enough
Rachel Flagg: just throwing out data is not enough ←
14:12:51 <johnlsheridan> Rachel: we have to explain using forms that work for people, how they learn and understand
Rachel Flagg: we have to explain using forms that work for people, how they learn and understand ←
14:13:18 <johnlsheridan> sheridan: should the government's role be to provide visualisations of the data?
John Sheridan: should the government's role be to provide visualisations of the data? ←
14:13:40 <johnlsheridan> Rachel: yes, we should, also how people can do this for themselves
Rachel Flagg: yes, we should, also how people can do this for themselves ←
14:14:30 <johnlsheridan> Daniel: sometimes its a good idea to help people see how the data can be used, also there is context that can / should be presented as well (eg when the legislation that requires the data is passed
Daniel Bennett: sometimes its a good idea to help people see how the data can be used, also there is context that can / should be presented as well (eg when the legislation that requires the data is passed ←
14:14:52 <johnlsheridan> Daniel: no simple way to link back to underlying data
Daniel Bennett: no simple way to link back to underlying data ←
14:15:27 <ChrisBeer> @ prehaps encourage "Developers Blogs" for Visualisations by Govt. Agencies for public use as guides?
Chris Beer: @ prehaps encourage "Developers Blogs" for Visualisations by Govt. Agencies for public use as guides? ←
14:20:35 <ChrisBeer> (Apologies all - must go afk for night - will stay in channel to collect breakfast reading. I look forward to the minutes. Till next!)
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Chris Beer: (Apologies all - must go afk for night - will stay in channel to collect breakfast reading. I look forward to the minutes. Till next!) ←
14:20:45 <johnlsheridan> Cheers Chris!
Cheers Chris! ←
14:21:25 <johnlsheridan> Daniel: gov has a role in presenting its data, so can others too
Daniel Bennett: gov has a role in presenting its data, so can others too ←
14:22:03 <ChrisBeer> (@John - nps - and feel free to take me up on offer above. @ Rachel - add me to edit group ;) if only so I can edit my user page)
Chris Beer: (@John - nps - and feel free to take me up on offer above. @ Rachel - add me to edit group ;) if only so I can edit my user page) ←
14:22:35 <Rachel> @ChrisBeer I responded to your email w/next steps :)
Rachel Flagg: @ChrisBeer I responded to your email w/next steps :) ←
14:24:16 <ChrisBeer> @Rachel thanks. @ Daniel - thought - some sort of .org to host presentations of data, Govt. visualisations or other, to remove bias/promote public access angle? (ok - really going now)
Chris Beer: @Rachel thanks. @ Daniel - thought - some sort of .org to host presentations of data, Govt. visualisations or other, to remove bias/promote public access angle? (ok - really going now) ←
14:25:59 <johnlsheridan> zakim, mute me
zakim, mute me ←
14:25:59 <Zakim> johnlsheridan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: johnlsheridan should now be muted ←
14:27:14 <johnlsheridan> discussion around visualisation jo: would prefer more data, daniel: svg, provides standards, means we don't have to work so hard to create visualisations
discussion around visualisation jo: would prefer more data, daniel: svg, provides standards, means we don't have to work so hard to create visualisations ←
14:28:00 <joec> http://womenincongress.house.gov/
Joe Carmel: http://womenincongress.house.gov/ ←
14:28:19 <johnlsheridan> My question is this: how do you incentive a data holder in government, to publish their data. Ans: do something cool with it, that they would like to be done, that tells a story
My question is this: how do you incentive a data holder in government, to publish their data. Ans: do something cool with it, that they would like to be done, that tells a story ←
14:28:29 <johnlsheridan> unmute me
unmute me ←
14:28:37 <johnlsheridan> zakim, unmute me please
zakim, unmute me please ←
14:28:37 <Zakim> johnlsheridan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: johnlsheridan should no longer be muted ←
14:30:00 <johnlsheridan> daniel: favours less formal agendas - have a series of themed telephone conferences to discuss each of the five areas
Daniel Bennett: favours less formal agendas - have a series of themed telephone conferences to discuss each of the five areas ←
14:30:14 <johnlsheridan> I think that's a good idea :)
I think that's a good idea :) ←
14:30:34 <johnlsheridan> but I'm not known for structured organisation....
but I'm not known for structured organisation.... ←
14:30:53 <johnlsheridan> Daniel: this would allow us to shape activity around the interest level
Daniel Bennett: this would allow us to shape activity around the interest level ←
14:32:16 <johnlsheridan> John: I'll take this point back and discuss at the next chairs call
John Sheridan: I'll take this point back and discuss at the next chairs call ←
14:32:43 <Zakim> - +1.509.464.aadd
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14:32:46 <Zakim> -johnlsheridan
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14:32:50 <johnlsheridan> adjourn
adjourn ←
14:32:50 <Zakim> - +1.410.992.aaee
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14:32:56 <johnlsheridan> zakim, adjourn
zakim, adjourn ←
14:32:56 <Zakim> I don't understand 'adjourn', johnlsheridan
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'adjourn', johnlsheridan ←
14:33:04 <Zakim> -??P0
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14:33:05 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended
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14:33:07 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.202.449.aaaa, +1.202.319.aabb, +1.202.731.aacc, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.410.992.aaee, johnlsheridan
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14:33:49 <johnlsheridan> close this agendum
close this agendum ←
14:34:46 <johnlsheridan> zakim help
zakim help ←
14:35:03 <johnlsheridan> help
help ←
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