ISSUE-2

allDisjoint-RDF

RESOLVED: No syntax for AllDisjoint in RDF mapping

State:
CLOSED
Product:
Raised by:
Bijan Parsia
Opened on:
2007-10-24
Description:
See:
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-dev/2007JanMar/0131.html (thread)

Since AllDisjoint is (important) syntactic sugar, the lack thereof essentially eliminates it from the 
RDF syntax. The trade-off is backwards compatibility. [But this is a desired backward 
incompatability :)]
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  1. RE: ISSUE-2 (allDisjoint-RDF): No syntax for AllDisjoint in RDF mapping (from schneid@fzi.de on 2008-01-15)
  2. Re: ISSUE-2 (allDisjoint-RDF): No syntax for AllDisjoint in RDF mapping (from jjc@hpl.hp.com on 2008-01-15)
  3. Re: ISSUE-2 (allDisjoint-RDF): No syntax for AllDisjoint in RDF mapping (from pfps@research.bell-labs.com on 2008-01-14)
  4. needs for roundtripping (from pfps@research.bell-labs.com on 2007-11-13)
  5. RE: ISSUE-2 (allDisjoint-RDF): No syntax for AllDisjoint in RDF mapping (from boris.motik@comlab.ox.ac.uk on 2007-11-13)
  6. Re: ISSUE-2 (allDisjoint-RDF): No syntax for AllDisjoint in RDF mapping (from hendler@cs.rpi.edu on 2007-11-12)
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  11. RE: ISSUE-2 (allDisjoint-RDF): No syntax for AllDisjoint in RDF mapping (from boris.motik@comlab.ox.ac.uk on 2007-11-07)
  12. Re: ISSUE-2 (allDisjoint-RDF): No syntax for AllDisjoint in RDF mapping (from sattler@cs.man.ac.uk on 2007-11-07)
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  18. Re: overview document on Wiki (from hendler@cs.rpi.edu on 2007-10-30)
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Related notes:

2007-10-30 16:00:52: Note: it is important to realize that AllDisjoint is not the same as DisjointUnion, the first simply states that a number of classes are separate, the latter necessarily means that something in the DisjointUnion must be in one of those classes - these are not semantically identical. [James Hendler]

2007-10-30 18:14:48: I don't think that the issue is that the RDF syntax is missing functionality, just that it is missing some possibly useful syntactic sugar, similar to owl:AllDifferent. I seem to remember that the WebOnt WG considered adding owl:AllDisjoint but decided that it was not sufficiently useful to add. The reason for adding owl:AllDifferent was that there could be *very* large groups of individual names being stated to be different, as in, e.g., a unique names assumption axiom. [Peter Patel-Schneider]

2007-11-11 10:26:17: RESOLUTION: AllDisjoint will be added to the functional syntax and the RDF mapping
See http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2007.11.07/Minutes [Ian Horrocks]

2007-11-23 10:27:08: Ongoing discussion about other nary constructs. [Ian Horrocks]

2008-01-23 18:09:56: Closed as per:
http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/index.php?title=Mapping_to_RDF_Graphs&diff=3128&oldid=3126 [Ian Horrocks]

Changelog:

2007-10-24 19:59:55: Created issue 'No syntax for AllDisjoint in RDF mapping' nickname allDisjoint-RDF owned by Bijan Parsia on product , description 'See: <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-dev/2007JanMar/0131.html> (thread) Since AllDisjoint is (important) syntactic sugar, the lack thereof essentially eliminates it from the RDF syntax. The trade-off is backwards compatibility. [But this is a desired backward incompatability :)]' non-public [Bijan Parsia]

2007-10-24 20:00:36: title changed to 'REPORTED: No syntax for AllDisjoint in RDF mapping' [Bijan Parsia]

2007-10-24 20:00:36: Issue dissociated from any product [Bijan Parsia]

2007-10-29 08:29:38: Description changed to 'See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-dev/2007JanMar/0131.html (thread) Since AllDisjoint is (important) syntactic sugar, the lack thereof essentially eliminates it from the RDF syntax. The trade-off is backwards compatibility. [But this is a desired backward incompatability :)]' [Peter Patel-Schneider]

2007-10-29 08:29:38: Issue dissociated from any product [Peter Patel-Schneider]

2007-10-30 16:00:52: Issue dissociated from any product [James Hendler]

2007-10-30 18:14:48: Issue dissociated from any product [Peter Patel-Schneider]

2007-11-06 18:18:02: title changed to 'ACCEPTED: No syntax for AllDisjoint in RDF mapping' [Ian Horrocks]

2007-11-06 18:18:02: Issue dissociated from any product [Ian Horrocks]

2007-11-11 10:26:17: title changed to 'RESOLVED: No syntax for AllDisjoint in RDF mapping' [Ian Horrocks]

2007-11-11 10:26:17: Issue dissociated from any product [Ian Horrocks]

2007-11-11 10:26:17: Status changed to 'closed' [Ian Horrocks]

2007-11-23 10:27:08: Issue dissociated from any product [Ian Horrocks]

2007-11-23 10:27:08: Status changed to 'open' [Ian Horrocks]

2008-01-23 18:09:56: Issue dissociated from any product [Ian Horrocks]

2008-01-23 18:09:56: Status changed to 'closed' [Ian Horrocks]

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