IRC log of ua on 2007-12-20

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18:00:54 [Jan]
Zakim, this will be UAWG
18:00:54 [Zakim]
ok, Jan; I see WAI_UAWG()1:00PM scheduled to start now
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Meeting: WAI UA
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Scribe: Jan
18:01:43 [Zakim]
WAI_UAWG()1:00PM has now started
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+Gregory_Rosmaita
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+AllanJ
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+[IPcaller]
18:03:26 [Jan]
zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan
18:03:26 [Zakim]
+Jan; got it
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Chair: Jim Allan
18:04:25 [Jan]
Regrets: Peter Parente
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Regrets: Cathy Laws
18:12:52 [Zakim]
+[Microsoft]
18:13:23 [Jan]
zakim, [Microsoft] is really KFord
18:13:23 [Zakim]
+KFord; got it
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All: Some discussion of AIA and some connections.
18:17:40 [Jan]
Last week's Action Items:
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-ACTION: JR to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
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-ACTION: JA to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
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-ACTION: CL to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
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-ACTION: JR to Look into "denial of Service" issue re IBM
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-ACTION: JR to Work on 2.3 proposal to make provision 2 more general - not just visual
18:17:49 [Jan]
-ACTION: JR to Check out "available programmatically " to see if we have a defn
18:17:51 [Jan]
-ACTION: JA to Ping CG and PF about AIA.
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-ACTION: JR to Check when publishing moratoria are [8]
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GR: Report on HTML5 progress to being an official working draft
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Action GR: To review first public working draft of HTML5 - user agent conformance section
18:19:37 [Jan]
GR: And will bring other items back to the list
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GR: oh and had an action item to look at Editor's draft change tracking
18:21:55 [Jan]
GR: The new DIFF script in W3C uses <del> and <ins>
18:22:12 [AllanJ]
link to DIFF http://www.w3.org/blog/systeam/2007/10/25/online_htmldiff_service
18:23:10 [AllanJ]
above was information, actual service is http://www.w3.org/2007/10/htmldiff
18:23:56 [Jan]
GR: But also need to negotiate other stuff like age of an issue, editorial comment etc
18:27:12 [Jan]
KF: Why can't we use an invisible one pixel graphic with alt text with comment text
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GR: Tried this with pseudo elements but not exposed to AT
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GR: Wanted to use overflow technique
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Topic: Action item review
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ACTION: JR to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
18:32:01 [Jan]
ACTION: JA to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
18:32:07 [Jan]
ACTION: CL to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
18:32:27 [Jan]
JR: Look into "denial of Service" issue re IBM: Known issue - prob on IBM side
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ACTION: JR to Check out "available programmatically " to see if we have a defn
18:33:06 [Jan]
me/ yes
18:33:09 [oedipus]
WCAG2 Technique C7 (overflow to hide text in plain sight): http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/C7.html
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ACTION: JA to Ping CG and PF about AIA
18:33:55 [Jan]
JR: Reported moratoria dates to the list
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JR to Work on 2.3 proposal to make provision 2 more general - not just visual...
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007OctDec/0076.html
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007OctDec/0078.html
18:35:45 [oedipus]
GJR +1 to "conditional content" - not equivalents - not knowable by UA
18:36:27 [oedipus]
GJR's plus one was to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007OctDec/0076.html
18:38:38 [KFord]
revised item here seems good for editor draft to me.
18:39:34 [Jan]
All: Agreed to use http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007OctDec/0076.html in next draft
18:39:54 [Jan]
All: Agree including new glossary wordings
18:40:05 [Jan]
Action JR: Update Editor's Draft
18:40:06 [oedipus]
FYI: 2 HTML5 wiki pages on a11y terminology and consensus: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/AccessibilityConsensus and http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/CommonVocabularyAndDefinitions
18:41:51 [Zakim]
-KFord
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-Gregory_Rosmaita
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-Jan
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-AllanJ
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WAI_UAWG()1:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Gregory_Rosmaita, AllanJ, Jan, KFord
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RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-minutes.html Jan
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RRSAgent, set logs public
18:46:24 [Jan]
Zakim, bye
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RRSAgent, bye
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I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: GR to To review first public working draft of HTML5 - user agent conformance section [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-irc#T18-18-54
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ACTION: JR to Review WCAG 2.0 LC [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-irc#T18-31-55
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ACTION: JA to Review WCAG 2.0 LC [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-irc#T18-32-01
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ACTION: CL to Review WCAG 2.0 LC [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-irc#T18-32-07
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ACTION: JR to Check out "available programmatically " to see if we have a defn [5]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-irc#T18-32-59
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ACTION: JA to Ping CG and PF about AIA [6]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-irc#T18-33-32
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ACTION: JR to Update Editor's Draft [7]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-irc#T18-40-05