IRC log of sweo on 2007-12-12

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14:08:26 [ivan]

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Meeting: SWEO Weekly Telco

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Chair: Susie

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/12-sweo-minutes.html ivan

14:13:29 [leobard]

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14:14:05 [leobard]

ivan: do you have time to update the "cool uris for semweb" editor draft to a "working draft" which I am finishing in the next minutes?

14:14:22 [ivan]

you mean right now?

14:14:37 [leobard]

in 30 minutes

14:14:56 [ivan]

as I told you in a mail: I will have to ask for a 'short' name to publish it, and this is in the hands of the webmaster...

14:15:16 [ivan]

ie, it will not be done by the end of the meeting. But we should get it rolling as soon as we can!

14:15:33 [leobard]

what if we publish first version of "Working Draft" at

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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/2007/cooluris/doc-20071212.html

14:16:06 [ivan]

I will have to put it there as an editor's copy anyway

14:16:10 [ivan]

that will be the first step

14:16:32 [leobard]

can't it be called working draft now, we already have many feedback and changes and @@@notes

14:16:33 [ivan]

but it becomes an official Working Draft only when it is of the URI: http://www.w3.org/TR/uri-guide

14:16:33 [leobard]

?

14:16:38 [leobard]

ok

14:16:47 [leobard]

so I call it editor note for today

14:16:53 [ivan]

yes

14:17:01 [leobard]

I mean "editor draft"

14:17:09 [ivan]

and I hope it will become a working draft before the end of the week

14:17:15 [ivan]

or early next week at the latest

14:17:16 [leobard]

ok, good

14:17:36 [ivan]

have you run it through all the checkers (pubrules, link checker, etc)

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?

14:44:17 [leobard]

rehi, have been fumbling on it until now

14:44:31 [leobard]

no, pubrules and link checker not, will do this now

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14:58:24 [ivan]

leo, I guess this means I will install it as an editor's copy tomorrow, and start the process then

14:58:43 [ivan]

I will have another call (OWL) later tonight, I do not think I can do it tomorrow after the call:-(

14:59:21 [Zakim]

SW_SWEO()10:00AM has now started

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+Susie

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+??P5

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-Susie

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+Susie

15:01:18 [ivan]

zakim, dial ivan-voip

15:01:18 [Zakim]

ok, ivan; the call is being made

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+Ivan

15:01:54 [ivan]

zakim, ??P5 is Andrea

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+Andrea; got it

15:02:09 [Kjetil]

Zakim, what is the code?

15:02:09 [Zakim]

the conference code is 7936 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Kjetil

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+ +1.603.886.aaaa

15:02:45 [ivan]

zakim, aaaa is Melli

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+Melli; got it

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+Leo

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+Kjetil

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Zakim, mute me

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Kjetil should now be muted

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like that

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+??P11

15:03:59 [leobard]

ivan, I fixed HTML validation + css, link checking has one red one and pubrules checker somehow doesnt work on my url http://www.dfki.uni-kl.de/~sauermann/dada/cooluris/cooluris_sweo_note.html

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zakim, mute Melli

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Melli should now be muted

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zakim, ??P11 is Uldis

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+Uldis; got it

15:05:10 [Susie]

Zakim, pick a scribe

15:05:10 [Zakim]

Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kjetil (muted)

15:05:17 [Kjetil]

ok!

15:06:09 [Kjetil]

Susie goes through the (ideal) agenda

15:06:25 [Kjetil]

Susie: first, the business presentation

15:06:53 [Zakim]

+ +99754aabb

15:07:18 [ivan]

zakim, aabb is Bengee

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+Bengee; got it

15:07:31 [Kjetil]

Susie: David has unfortunately left, can anybody else pick it up?

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Susie: otherwise, we will push it to the next version of SWEO

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ScribeNick: Kjetil

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Susie: next item, Enterprise Survey

15:08:40 [Kjetil]

Susie: I think it is too late to organise a webinar

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Susie: danja should report on the collection

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Susie: but he sent his regrets

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Susie: leobard, you're next up, with the information gathering task

15:11:16 [Kjetil]

leobard: we should clean the collection, with the documents that will be there in the end only

15:11:19 [ivan]

Regrets: Kingsley

15:12:19 [Kjetil]

leobard: we hope that once people have the data, others will create interfaces

15:12:32 [Kjetil]

Susie: if it is ready by the end of the year, we could blog it

15:12:50 [Kjetil]

Susie: next, cool uri document

15:13:05 [leobard]

https://gnowsis.opendfki.de/repos/gnowsis/papers/2006_11_concepturi/html/cooluris_sweo_note.html

15:13:07 [ivan]

-> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/2007/cooluris/doc-20071212.html latest editor's copy

15:13:27 [leobard]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/2007/cooluris/doc-20071212.html

15:13:41 [Kjetil]

leobard: the cool URI document is now up

15:13:50 [Kjetil]

ivan: allready on the w3c

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...site

15:15:10 [Kjetil]

ivan: there are some editorial things, we should make it a bit more formal, using "Editor's note" where appropriate

15:19:18 [Kjetil]

ivan and leobard went through a number of points

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ivan: now it will be published soon as a WD

15:19:44 [Kjetil]

ivan: we should have a comment period

15:20:18 [Kjetil]

ivan: we should probably have until January

15:20:33 [Kjetil]

Susie: leobard, can it be ready to the end of SWEO

15:21:06 [Kjetil]

leobard: I think these things take time, and we cannot push it very hard, so I think it is OK if we publish it after the end of SWEO

15:21:18 [Kjetil]

Susie: then we're onto your actions, ivan

15:21:46 [Kjetil]

Susie: we got some text from SKOS, have we gotten from RDFa or GRDDL?

15:22:16 [Kjetil]

ivan: we have not gotten anything from the others

15:22:46 [Kjetil]

ivan: POWDER has gone through so much change, also RDFa is in much the same situation

15:22:55 [Kjetil]

Susie: which leaves GRDDL

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Susie: then the use cases

15:25:06 [Melli]

sorry, I ave let the ball drop on this one

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will follow up aggressively

15:25:12 [Kjetil]

ivan: microsoft is not ready to put out a published use case. They are not against it, but they are not ready to publically support it either

15:25:34 [Melli]

action item to Melli - follow up with Hutchinson

15:25:40 [ivan]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/2007/cooluris/doc-20071212.html

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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/submit.html

15:26:11 [Kjetil]

ivan: we should make a page about how to submit a use case

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ivan: Susie has made one

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Susie: now, people can submit without us having to chase it

15:27:08 [Melli]

I have question on that - it appears to me that there are more categories now than there were at the F2F?

15:27:20 [Melli]

did more get added?

15:27:22 [Melli]

ok

15:27:34 [Melli]

Leo, Danny and I just started looking into that

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we will continue and try to have an update nextg week

15:27:56 [ivan]

yey!

15:28:29 [Kjetil]

Zakim, unmute me

15:28:29 [Zakim]

Kjetil should no longer be muted

15:29:59 [ivan]

??

15:30:15 [Melli]

I can hear you

15:30:16 [Melli]

I can hear you

15:30:24 [Kjetil]

we can't hear you Susie

15:30:26 [ivan]

susie, you seem to have dropped

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I'll dial in again..,,

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-Susie

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ok

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+Susie

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+LeeF

15:33:09 [Kjetil]

bengee was also lost...

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or was that me....?

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-Kjetil

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+ +47.67.8.aacc

15:35:23 [Kjetil]

Zakim, aacc is me

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+Kjetil; got it

15:40:02 [Kjetil]

there well be meetings and camps in London and Cork about semweb-near stuff

15:40:21 [uldis]

overlap with web2.0 and social software ++

15:40:46 [Kjetil]

Susie: should we have a wiki page about all those meetings

15:41:15 [LeeF]

I'm around next week

15:41:29 [Kjetil]

Susie: are people around next week?

15:42:10 [Kjetil]

Susie: then we will have a call for the 19th, then jump to the 9th

15:44:20 [Kjetil]

Susie: Andrea has just joined, so please give a presentation

15:44:33 [Kjetil]

Andrea: I'm taking over for Dunja

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Andrea: My background is a linguist

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Zakim, mute me

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Kjetil should now be muted

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Susie: thank you everybody!

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-Ivan

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-Bengee

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-Uldis

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-Melli

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-Susie

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-Leo

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-Andrea

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-Kjetil

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-LeeF

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SW_SWEO()10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Susie, Ivan, Andrea, +1.603.886.aaaa, Melli, Leo, Kjetil, Uldis, +99754aabb, Bengee, LeeF, +47.67.8.aacc

15:46:42 [ivan]

rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/12-sweo-minutes.html ivan

15:47:20 [ivan]

zakim, bye

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15:47:26 [ivan]

rrsagent, bye

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I see no action items