IRC log of hcls on 2007-12-06

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16:02:15 [eneumann]
rrsagent, set log world-visible
16:04:00 [ericP]
jar, sorry, lost signal
16:04:08 [ericP]
Zakim, please dial ericP-415
16:04:08 [Zakim]
sorry, ericP, I don't know what conference this is
16:04:16 [ericP]
Zakim, this is hcls
16:04:16 [Zakim]
ok, ericP; that matches SW_HCLS()11:00AM
16:04:19 [ericP]
Zakim, please dial ericP-415
16:04:19 [Zakim]
ok, ericP; the call is being made
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+EricP
16:04:39 [ericP]
Zakim, who is here?
16:04:39 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Don_Doherty, Susie, Eric_Neumann, Jonathan_Rees, EricP
16:04:42 [Zakim]
On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, eneumann, Susie, Don, jar, ericP
16:05:20 [eneumann]
scribe: Susie
16:05:51 [Zakim]
+Tanya_Hongsermeier
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http://www.jenitennison.com/blog/node/66
16:07:48 [Susie]
Susie: Sad news about Chime.
16:07:48 [Tonya]
above is the link to make donations
16:08:18 [Susie]
Susie: His daughters died in a fire.
16:08:52 [Susie]
Tonya: They are setting up 2 funds.
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http://thekingdomkids.org/
16:09:27 [Susie]
Tonya: One is for his family, and the other is to help protect other children from similar disasters.
16:10:41 [Susie]
Eric: Still trying to work out how best to respond.
16:10:57 [Susie]
EricP: We have sent flowers on behalf of HCLS.
16:11:39 [Susie]
EricN: This is the last call for HCLS this year and for this charter.
16:12:55 [Susie]
EricP: Interested to know if people would be happy to resume calls on Thursdays at 11am ET, starting 1st week of Jan.
16:13:10 [Susie]
EricP: This would work for Tonya & Susie.
16:13:31 [Susie]
EricP: Given current events it may make sense to re-charter this HCLS for another month.
16:13:47 [Susie]
EricP: Will ask the activity lead if this is possible.
16:14:16 [Susie]
EricP: Publishing deadline for this year is approx. Dec. 20.
16:14:39 [Zakim]
+ +20416aaaa
16:14:58 [Susie]
Tonya: Next agenda item is to review status of the notes.
16:15:39 [Susie]
Jonathan: URI note will require a few more iterations.
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16:15:52 [Susie]
Jonathan: Am aiming for the end of the year.
16:16:09 [Susie]
Jonathan: Haven't received much feedback from HCLS.
16:16:20 [Susie]
Jonathan: Could just clean up what we have.
16:16:37 [Susie]
Jonathan: Then there wouldn't be more feedback from HCLS.
16:17:27 [Susie]
Jonathan: 2 choices. 1 proceed as we get and get an editors draft on the site in Jan or Feb. Option 2 - I person acts as a gatekeeper for everything.
16:18:07 [Susie]
Susie: Won't we need to go through a editors draft and a working group step?
16:18:23 [Susie]
EricP: Not necessary for IGs.
16:18:39 [Susie]
EricP: There isn't anything that stands in our way.
16:20:17 [Susie]
Susie: SWEO is putting the Cool URI doc through the WG process. Should we do the same for the HCLS URI note?
16:20:27 [Zakim]
-EricP
16:20:38 [ericP]
Zakim, please dial ericP-415
16:20:38 [Zakim]
ok, ericP; the call is being made
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+EricP
16:21:01 [Susie]
EricN: The SWEO doc is promoting URIs. The HCLS note is different.
16:21:32 [Susie]
EricN: Jonathan identify straightforward situations for minting URIs?
16:22:08 [Susie]
Jonathan: Thought a huge issue was thinking about working with non-information resources.
16:22:36 [Susie]
EricN: What extra stuff do they get from Jonathan;s document over SWEO's doc.
16:22:48 [Susie]
Joanthan: Primarily whether they are meaningful and persist.
16:23:12 [Susie]
Jonathan: Doesn't think the big divide is between information resources anf non-information resources.
16:24:28 [Susie]
Jonathan: Maybe we don't want to publish by the end of the year.
16:27:01 [Susie]
EricP: Wasn't aware IGs could follow the WG process.
16:27:15 [Susie]
EricP: Will find out about it.
16:27:23 [Zakim]
+George
16:27:30 [Susie]
EricP: Would like to push on us to finish the doc as soon as possible.
16:27:46 [Susie]
EricP: Why don't we have more HCLS calls this year?
16:27:58 [Susie]
Tonya: Lots of people on vacation, etc.
16:28:15 [Susie]
EricP: Maybe a small group could keep going to discuss notes.
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Susie: BioRDF could cover publication of docs?
16:29:09 [Susie]
EricP: Delay URI until Jan., and BioRDF to lead on other docs for this year?
16:29:15 [Susie]
Tonya: OK
16:29:20 [Susie]
EricN: OK
16:30:14 [Susie]
Jonathan: Would like comments on doc.
16:30:41 [Susie]
Susie: Then makes sense to delay URI doc until Jan, and get other less controversal docs out this year.
16:30:45 [Susie]
Tonya: Agree.
16:31:20 [Susie]
Scott: The URI doc is an application of the Cool URI doc.
16:32:06 [Susie]
Susie: Cool URI doc mirrors TAGS thinking. HCLS URI doc could challenge the TAG.
16:33:12 [Susie]
Jonathan: Fine with Scott's comment, but not sure what it implies.
16:33:45 [Susie]
Scott: How to make statement about something in a tar ball in a database.
16:34:08 [Susie]
Scott: Answering questions like that distinguishes the HCLS URI note from the Cool URI note.
16:34:32 [Susie]
Scott: This helps to ground URI concepts in a use case.
16:35:16 [Susie]
Susie: Scott is taking the lead on the HCLS KB note.
16:35:25 [Susie]
Scott: I'll give an upate on Monday.
16:35:41 [Susie]
Scott: I'd like input as to what questions people would like answered.
16:36:09 [Susie]
Scott: Problem description, how people could go about duplicating the effort.
16:36:19 [Zakim]
-Eric_Neumann
16:37:15 [mscottm]
ericN?
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+Eric_Neumann
16:38:03 [Susie]
Susie: Matthias is taking the lead on the senselab conversion
16:38:22 [Susie]
EricN: No update on the DSE note, as no feedback from others.
16:38:30 [Susie]
EricN: It is ready to publish.
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16:39:57 [eneumann]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/hcls/Note_DSE_20071108.html
16:41:43 [Susie]
Next HCLS call on Jan. 10 at 11am ET.
16:41:55 [Susie]
Regrets: Vipul
16:43:11 [Susie]
Tonya: Blessed holiday season and a happy new year.
16:43:29 [Zakim]
-George
16:43:31 [Zakim]
-Jonathan_Rees
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-Don_Doherty
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-Susie
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-Tanya_Hongsermeier
16:43:36 [Zakim]
- +20416aaaa
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-Eric_Neumann
16:43:52 [eneumann]
zakim, draft minutes
16:43:52 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'draft minutes', eneumann
16:44:20 [eneumann]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-hcls-minutes.html eneumann
16:44:21 [Susie]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-hcls-minutes.html Susie
16:44:38 [eneumann]
rrsagent, bye
16:44:38 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items