2007-12-03T16:02:36Z scribe: Don 2007-12-03T16:02:38Z -!- jar [chatzilla@128.30.16.246] has joined #biordf 2007-12-03T16:03:02Z !mcclure.w3.org Susie invited Zakim into channel #BioRDF. 2007-12-03T16:03:02Z -!- Zakim [rrs-bridgg@128.30.52.30] has joined #BioRDF 2007-12-03T16:03:53Z -!- matthiassamwald [a@85.127.79.123] has joined #biordf 2007-12-03T16:04:52Z Pfizer SWEO use case: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/Pfizer/ 2007-12-03T16:05:13Z -!- mscottm [marshall@81.69.36.208] has joined #biordf 2007-12-03T16:05:37Z agenda+ URI Note 2007-12-03T16:05:42Z agenda+ SenseLab 2007-12-03T16:05:46Z agenda+ KB 2007-12-03T16:06:00Z agenda+ Experiment Ontology Lilly created 2007-12-03T16:06:04Z agenda+ Other business 2007-12-03T16:06:04Z Topic: URI Note 2007-12-03T16:06:34Z Jonathan_Rees: Haven't updated the URI note lately 2007-12-03T16:07:04Z Susie: Are you getting close to publishing URI note 2007-12-03T16:07:12Z ... as a working draft? 2007-12-03T16:07:32Z Jonathan: I'm a couple weeks from that. 2007-12-03T16:07:32Z -!- kei [kei.cheung@128.36.29.61] has joined #BioRDF 2007-12-03T16:07:32Z Topic: SenseLab/KB 2007-12-03T16:08:15Z Susie: How is progress with the SenseLab conversion? 2007-12-03T16:08:51Z * Don opps...accidently disconnected...I'll be right back on 2007-12-03T16:09:43Z * Don I'm back on. 2007-12-03T16:12:31Z Scott: Can send Matthias document ericP helped with 2007-12-03T16:12:48Z ACTION: Scott to send note format and tips to Matthias 2007-12-03T16:12:59Z * Don Thank you Susie 2007-12-03T16:13:40Z Matthias_Samwald: Want general document structure... 2007-12-03T16:13:54Z ... What should and shouldn't be there. 2007-12-03T16:14:22Z M_Scott_Marshall: I'll be taking a good look at the structure. 2007-12-03T16:14:54Z file:///D:/home/hclskbdoc/WWW/2001/sw/hcls/notes/kb/Overview.html 2007-12-03T16:14:57Z Susie_Stephens: Scott, do you have the URL for the doc handy? 2007-12-03T16:15:16Z -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/hcls/notes/kb/ HCLS Knowledge Base Documentation 2007-12-03T16:16:07Z ... Areas I think would be good to include... 2007-12-03T16:16:22Z ... Why did we decide to do this? 2007-12-03T16:16:37Z ... What are the advantages of SW over other architectures? 2007-12-03T16:16:47Z ... Highlight a list of data sources. 2007-12-03T16:17:08Z M_Scott_Marshall: There is a subsection of incorporated databases. 2007-12-03T16:17:16Z -> http://sw.neurocommons.org/2007/kb-sources/README.html HCLS/Neurocommons knowledge base sources and terms 2007-12-03T16:17:54Z Susie_Stephens: High-level methodology used for kb. 2007-12-03T16:19:32Z M_Scott_Marshall: Would be nice to have done by Dec. 20th 2007-12-03T16:20:15Z ACTION: Scott to try to have doc done in two weeks. 2007-12-03T16:20:23Z * ericP Zakim, code? 2007-12-03T16:20:23Z * Zakim sorry, ericP, I don't know what conference this is 2007-12-03T16:20:30Z Zakim, this is BioRDF 2007-12-03T16:20:30Z ok, ericP; that matches SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM 2007-12-03T16:20:33Z * ericP Zakim, code? 2007-12-03T16:20:33Z * Zakim saw 246733 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152) given for the conference code, ericP 2007-12-03T16:21:10Z +Hugo 2007-12-03T16:21:25Z Zakim, hugo is really ericP 2007-12-03T16:21:25Z +ericP; got it 2007-12-03T16:21:43Z Susie_Stephens: We're talking about the note on the HCLS KB. 2007-12-03T16:21:53Z ... What does finished mean? 2007-12-03T16:22:13Z ericP: We need a version of it before the end of the charter. 2007-12-03T16:22:22Z ... It's easy to update. 2007-12-03T16:22:40Z * ericP big apologies for showing up late 2007-12-03T16:22:44Z Susie_Stephens: Scott, are there section you may assign to other people? 2007-12-03T16:23:25Z M_Scott_Marshall: Great idea. Susie on the introduction. 2007-12-03T16:23:42Z Action: Susie, write Introduction for HCLS KB Note. 2007-12-03T16:24:07Z Action Deadline: Introduction...end of this week. 2007-12-03T16:25:48Z M_Scott_Marshall: Need to decide what issues are describe in how much detail. 2007-12-03T16:26:24Z Susie_Stephens: Maybe Jonathan can read the section on identifiers. 2007-12-03T16:26:37Z Jonathan_Rees: Yes, I can do that. 2007-12-03T16:27:10Z ACTION: Jonathan read the section on identifiers. 2007-12-03T16:27:37Z -> http://wiki.neurocommons.org/CommonNaming Common Naming 2007-12-03T16:27:43Z M_Scott_Marshall: We can refer to Jonathan's document. 2007-12-03T16:29:29Z Susie_Stephens: There's not much on URIs in HCLS KB note. Should Alan or Jonathan take that on? 2007-12-03T16:29:56Z M_Scott_Marshall: I'll give it a try Jonathan and let me know if that wording is right. 2007-12-03T16:30:08Z Jonathan_Rees: Okay. Good. 2007-12-03T16:30:41Z * ericP just created http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/hcls/notes/kb/.htaccess to fix the character encoding as utf-8 2007-12-03T16:30:45Z M_Scott_Marshall: I'd like to talk with Matthias about some of the things he brought up on improvements to the knowlege base. 2007-12-03T16:31:01Z ... Perhaps we can work those into the notes. 2007-12-03T16:31:31Z Susie_Stephens: Eric...Matthias wasn't sure what about the SenseLab conversion should be covered in the note. 2007-12-03T16:32:13Z ericP: Notes have a consistent template over which you can do what you want. 2007-12-03T16:32:46Z ... I can help coordinating notes. 2007-12-03T16:33:37Z ... Matthias, where is your working doc? 2007-12-03T16:33:52Z Matthias_Samwald: It's on the Wiki. 2007-12-03T16:33:52Z Topic: Lilly Experiment Ontology 2007-12-03T16:34:46Z Susie_Stephens: That covers the majority I wanted to cover. The new last minute item is Lilly's ontology. 2007-12-03T16:35:10Z ... We'd like feedback from the community, which we've already received. 2007-12-03T16:35:35Z ... Liily very much wants to work with the community on the ontology. 2007-12-03T16:36:10Z ... Would it make sense to talk about coordinating ontologies? 2007-12-03T16:36:31Z Kei: Do you have any specific type experiment you have in mind? 2007-12-03T16:37:13Z Susie_Stephens: At the moment, it's a high-level ontology about instrumentation and methodology 2007-12-03T16:37:45Z ... Does not go into experiement details. 2007-12-03T16:38:00Z -> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Tasks/Experiment_Ontology Lilly Experiment Ontology 2007-12-03T16:38:37Z Who's speaking? 2007-12-03T16:38:51Z * ericP that was mscottm 2007-12-03T16:39:13Z M_Scott_Marshall: I'm impressed. This is the kind of sharing we're looking for from the pharma community. 2007-12-03T16:39:47Z Susie_Stephens: Feedback on the ontology is flowing. 2007-12-03T16:40:09Z ... I viewed the Lilly ontology using Protege 2007-12-03T16:42:19Z I couldn't download OBI from http://obi.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/obi/ontology/trunk/OBI.owl?view=log 2007-12-03T16:42:41Z M_Scott_Marshall: Jambalaya is a usefull Protege plug-in 2007-12-03T16:43:54Z -> http://obi.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/obi/ontology/trunk/OBI.owl OWL ont 2007-12-03T16:44:35Z Susie_Stephens: We're working on developing other ontologies. We want to make sure we're... 2007-12-03T16:44:47Z ... working with the community and aligning efforts. 2007-12-03T16:44:47Z Topic: Other Business 2007-12-03T16:45:06Z Susie_Stephens: We've put the call out for the HCLS workshop at the WWW. 2007-12-03T16:45:20Z ... Anyone want to mention anything else? 2007-12-03T16:45:25Z -> http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/ARPServlet?URI=http%3A%2F%2Fobi.svn.sourceforge.net%2Fviewvc%2F*checkout*%2Fobi%2Fontology%2Ftrunk%2FOBI.owl&PARSE=Parse+URI%3A+&TRIPLES_AND_GRAPH=PRINT_TRIPLES&FORMAT=PNG_EMBED OBI OWL ont appears valid 2007-12-03T16:45:27Z http://obi.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/obi/ontology/trunk/OBI.owl works for me (in Protege 4) 2007-12-03T16:45:40Z M_Scott_Marshall: The European SW conference coming up. 2007-12-03T16:46:01Z Susie_Stephens: Alan has people working with him on this. 2007-12-03T16:46:12Z ... ericP is working on a paper. 2007-12-03T16:48:20Z Topic: RRSAgent Tips and Tricks 2007-12-03T16:48:54Z EricP: this way you usally quote people is this "..." 2007-12-03T16:49:12Z ... if they continue, you can prefix with elipsises 2007-12-03T16:49:24Z Don: use Zakim's name? 2007-12-03T16:49:34Z ericP: you can use whatever name you want 2007-12-03T16:50:03Z -> http://obi.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/obi/ontology/trunk/OBI.owl OBI OWL ont 2007-12-03T16:50:32Z scribenick ericP 2007-12-03T16:51:03Z Zakim, who is here? 2007-12-03T16:51:03Z On the phone I see +1.781.662.aaaa, Jonathan_Rees, ??P15, Scott_Marshall, Kei_Cheung, Don_Doherty, ericP 2007-12-03T16:51:05Z On IRC I see kei, mscottm, matthiassamwald, Zakim, jar, Don, Susie, ericP 2007-12-03T16:51:25Z looks like rrsagent isn't on the chat 2007-12-03T16:52:07Z /invite Zakim #BioRDF 2007-12-03T16:52:14Z /invite RRSAgent #BioRDF 2007-12-03T16:52:16Z [call] 2007-12-03T16:52:25Z zakim, this is BioRDF 2007-12-03T16:52:25Z ericP, this was already SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM 2007-12-03T16:52:26Z ok, ericP; that matches SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM 2007-12-03T16:52:36Z scribenick ericP 2007-12-03T16:52:57Z RRSAgent, please draft minutes 2007-12-03T16:54:10Z rrsagent, set log world-visible 2007-12-03T16:55:50Z -Kei_Cheung 2007-12-03T16:55:51Z -Don_Doherty 2007-12-03T16:55:53Z -Jonathan_Rees 2007-12-03T16:55:56Z -!- Don [Don@70.20.65.111] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 2007-12-03T16:56:26Z my document is currently at http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/Senselab_Conversion 2007-12-03T16:57:24Z cvs -d mmarshal@dev.w3.org:/w3ccvs co WWW/2001/sw/hcls/notes/kb/ 2007-12-03T17:00:42Z matthiassamwald 2007-12-03T17:01:50Z -!- kei [kei.cheung@128.36.29.61] has quit [Quit: kei] 2007-12-03T17:02:23Z msamwald 2007-12-03T17:03:37Z -Scott_Marshall 2007-12-03T17:06:33Z -!- mscottm [marshall@81.69.36.208] has quit [Ping timeout] 2007-12-03T17:09:16Z -??P15 2007-12-03T17:09:39Z Zakim, who is here? 2007-12-03T17:09:39Z On the phone I see +1.781.662.aaaa, ericP 2007-12-03T17:09:40Z On IRC I see matthiassamwald, Zakim, jar, Susie, ericP 2007-12-03T17:28:38Z - +1.781.662.aaaa 2007-12-03T17:28:40Z -ericP 2007-12-03T17:28:42Z SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM has ended 2007-12-03T17:28:43Z Attendees were Don_Doherty, +1.781.662.aaaa, Jonathan_Rees, Scott_Marshall, Kei_Cheung, ericP