IRC log of forms on 2007-11-21
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- Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference
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- Chair: John
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- Scribe: Leigh
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- Regrets: Joern
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0079.html
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- John_Boyer has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0079.html
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- Rafael also sent Regrets.
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- s/Regrets: Joern/Regrets: Joern, Rafael
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- +wellsk
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- + +1.250.294.aaaa
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- zakim, I am aaaa
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- +John_Boyer; got it
- 15:59:09 [Roger]
- zakim, code?
- 15:59:10 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Roger
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- zakim, code?
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- the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Schnitz
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- hi uli
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- hi
- 16:00:33 [John_Boyer]
- zakim, who is here?
- 16:00:33 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see wellsk, John_Boyer
- 16:00:34 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see unl, Schnitz, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, Roger, markbirbeck, ShaneM, Nick, Steven, trackbot-ng
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- +??P21
- 16:00:39 [Roger]
- zakim, p21 is Roger
- 16:00:39 [Zakim]
- sorry, Roger, I do not recognize a party named 'p21'
- 16:00:48 [Roger]
- zakim, P21 is Roger
- 16:00:51 [Zakim]
- sorry, Roger, I do not recognize a party named 'P21'
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- zakim, ??P21 is Roger
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- +unl
- 16:01:19 [Zakim]
- +Roger; got it
- 16:01:24 [Schnitz]
- zakim, mute me
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- + +49.308.3.aabb
- 16:01:27 [Schnitz]
- oh
- 16:01:40 [Schnitz]
- zakim, +49 is me
- 16:01:41 [Zakim]
- sorry, Schnitz, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
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- +Charles_Wiecha
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- zakim, who is here?
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- +Schnitz; got it
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- zakim, mute me
- 16:02:15 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see wellsk, John_Boyer, Roger, unl, Schnitz, Charles_Wiecha
- 16:02:16 [CharlieWiecha]
- zakim, who is here?
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- Schnitz should now be muted
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- On IRC I see CharlieWiecha, unl, Schnitz, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, Roger, markbirbeck, ShaneM, Nick, Steven, trackbot-ng
- 16:02:46 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see wellsk, John_Boyer, Roger, unl, Schnitz (muted), Charles_Wiecha
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- On IRC I see ebruchez, CharlieWiecha, unl, Schnitz, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, Roger, markbirbeck, ShaneM, Nick, Steven, trackbot-ng
- 16:03:45 [unl]
- zakim, mute me
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- +??P11
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- unl should now be muted
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- zakim, code?
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- the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), NickVdB
- 16:04:24 [Steven]
- Happy recent birthday to Sebastian!
- 16:04:27 [ebruchez]
- zakim, ??P1 is ebruchez
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- +ebruchez; got it
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- +Blake
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- zakim, unmute me
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- Schnitz should no longer be muted
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- +Nick_van_den_Bleeken
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- +Leigh_Klotz
- 16:05:34 [Steven]
- zakim, dial steven-617
- 16:05:34 [Zakim]
- ok, Steven; the call is being made
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- +Steven
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- +markbirbeck
- 16:05:56 [NickVdB]
- ack, me
- 16:05:59 [Schnitz]
- zakim, mute me
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- Schnitz should now be muted
- 16:06:24 [John_Boyer]
- Regrets+MarkS
- 16:06:35 [NickVdB]
- zakim, mute me
- 16:06:35 [Zakim]
- sorry, NickVdB, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
- 16:06:40 [John_Boyer]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0079.html
- 16:09:14 [klotz]
- ACTION: Leigh Klotz to ask Mark Seaborne for XForms 1.0 Basic implementation report status.
- 16:09:14 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-434 - Klotz to ask Mark Seaborne for XForms 1.0 Basic implementation report status. [on Leigh Klotz, Jr. - due 2007-11-28].
- 16:13:52 [Steven]
- Thanks!
- 16:13:55 [Steven]
- Yes I am
- 16:14:14 [John_Boyer]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0075.html
- 16:14:14 [klotz]
- ACTION: John Boyer to add example for inputmode to issues list (received indirectly as comment but after last call deadline) and to contact Yam.
- 16:14:14 [trackbot-ng]
- Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
- 16:14:14 [trackbot-ng]
- Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
- 16:14:27 [NickVdB]
- this is my reply http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0082.html
- 16:14:36 [NickVdB]
- If you like I can sumerize
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- ack, me
- 16:16:22 [Schnitz]
- I would propose extending the existing telcon for an additional half hour, and reducing the FtF meeting to three instead of four
- 16:16:46 [Steven]
- +1 on value of FtFs
- 16:16:55 [Schnitz]
- +1
- 16:16:59 [John_Boyer]
- +1
- 16:17:02 [CharlieWiecha]
- +1
- 16:17:19 [Roger]
- +2 (Rafa and me)
- 16:17:23 [wellsk]
- +1
- 16:17:45 [unl]
- +1 from me too, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0081.html
- 16:18:48 [Schnitz]
- well.... how about 3 meetings a year and therefore a little longer telcon?
- 16:20:13 [CharlieWiecha]
- +1 on schnitz
- 16:21:03 [NickVdB]
- but the TPAC is in the 4th q
- 16:21:06 [Schnitz]
- right
- 16:23:10 [Schnitz]
- zakim, unmute me
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- Schnitz should no longer be muted
- 16:25:33 [Schnitz]
- no
- 16:25:54 [NickVdB]
- For me it are seperate issues, the call times and the F2F meetings
- 16:26:02 [Schnitz]
- ok
- 16:26:17 [NickVdB]
- and I'm fine with makeing call of 90 minutes
- 16:26:57 [Schnitz]
- zakim, mute me
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- Schnitz should now be muted
- 16:27:00 [NickVdB]
- that is fine for me
- 16:28:37 [NickVdB]
- zakim, mute me
- 16:28:37 [Zakim]
- sorry, NickVdB, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
- 16:28:53 [Steven]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 16:28:53 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see wellsk, John_Boyer, Roger, unl (muted), Schnitz (muted), Charles_Wiecha, ebruchez, Blake, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, Leigh_Klotz, Steven, markbirbeck
- 16:29:17 [NickVdB]
- zakim, I am Nick_Van_den_Bleeken
- 16:29:18 [Zakim]
- ok, NickVdB, I now associate you with Nick_van_den_Bleeken
- 16:29:23 [Schnitz]
- :-)
- 16:29:24 [NickVdB]
- zakim, mute me
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- Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
- 16:29:52 [Schnitz]
- Great
- 16:30:21 [Schnitz]
- +1 charlie
- 16:30:23 [NickVdB]
- that is fine for me too
- 16:30:34 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: We go to 90 minute calls, starting 15 mintues earlier and ending 15 minutes later, in January.
- 16:30:44 [unl]
- lets do a 2 week f2f in victoria
- 16:31:02 [Schnitz]
- unl, ?
- 16:31:11 [NickVdB]
- fine for me
- 16:31:14 [Schnitz]
- ;-)
- 16:31:15 [NickVdB]
- no
- 16:31:23 [Schnitz]
- lets go camping for one month
- 16:31:26 [NickVdB]
- we want Victoria ;)
- 16:31:35 [unl]
- yes
- 16:31:36 [Schnitz]
- ;-)
- 16:32:14 [Schnitz]
- Leigh, LOL
- 16:34:37 [NickVdB]
- sounds good for me
- 16:34:38 [unl]
- +1 for 4 day meetings
- 16:34:39 [wellsk]
- +1
- 16:34:46 [Steven]
- +0
- 16:35:08 [Schnitz]
- well, we mean less meetings at the same time, no?
- 16:35:26 [Schnitz]
- zakim, unmute me
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- Schnitz should no longer be muted
- 16:36:06 [NickVdB]
- 3 meetinings + TP
- 16:36:07 [Steven]
- If it is 3*4 days, then +1 to me
- 16:36:21 [Steven]
- s/to/for/
- 16:37:21 [markbirbeck]
- q+
- 16:37:57 [Steven]
- ack m
- 16:37:57 [John_Boyer]
- ack m
- 16:38:00 [Schnitz]
- zakim, mute me
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- Schnitz should now be muted
- 16:38:20 [Schnitz]
- ICELAND, ICELAND!
- 16:38:30 [Schnitz]
- (in the middle between US / EU)
- 16:38:42 [Steven]
- +1 to Iceland
- 16:40:13 [unl]
- ho will be the host on iceland?
- 16:40:25 [unl]
- s/ho/who
- 16:40:31 [Steven]
- IBM *must* have a site there ;-)
- 16:40:40 [unl]
- :-o
- 16:40:53 [NickVdB]
- no, then we loose victoria :(
- 16:43:52 [Schnitz]
- ok
- 16:43:57 [Schnitz]
- +1
- 16:44:18 [Schnitz]
- no
- 16:44:24 [Schnitz]
- right
- 16:44:30 [Schnitz]
- no
- 16:44:34 [Schnitz]
- right
- 16:44:43 [Steven]
- Calls of 90 mins
- 16:44:50 [Steven]
- 3 meetings of 4 days
- 16:45:05 [Steven]
- where TPAC= 2days+2virtual days
- 16:45:07 [Schnitz]
- whereas one of the three meeting is half-virtual
- 16:45:07 [John_Boyer]
- Generally, 3 meetings of 4 days in total. The last of the year would be the TPAC. Two virtual days before the TPAC and then 2 days at the TPAC for those who can make it
- 16:45:19 [Steven]
- +1
- 16:45:57 [Schnitz]
- right
- 16:46:02 [unl]
- so we're losing victoria next year?
- 16:46:07 [unl]
- :-(
- 16:46:30 [NickVdB]
- we will start a new group, to go to victoria
- 16:46:35 [unl]
- ok
- 16:47:05 [NickVdB]
- I was planning my summer holiday in Canada
- 16:47:25 [NickVdB]
- but next year wil do
- 16:47:29 [NickVdB]
- no problem ;)
- 16:48:27 [NickVdB]
- no pubblic holidays
- 16:48:51 [NickVdB]
- quite expensive ?
- 16:48:59 [Schnitz]
- when is koeniginnen-tag?
- 16:49:07 [NickVdB]
- 31 april
- 16:49:10 [Schnitz]
- ok
- 16:49:14 [NickVdB]
- soryy
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- 30
- 16:49:55 [unl]
- earlier is better
- 16:50:19 [NickVdB]
- june is ok for me
- 16:50:37 [NickVdB]
- 9, 10, 11, 12
- 16:51:54 [Schnitz]
- cool
- 16:52:39 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: We resolve to have three F2F meetings per year, four days per meeting, and that the final meeting is half-virtual, half-TPAC.
- 16:52:47 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: F2F in June 9-12, 2008 in Amsterdam
- 16:54:07 [NickVdB]
- ack, me
- 16:54:23 [Steven]
- ack nick
- 16:54:44 [Steven]
- Yay for Nick!
- 16:54:49 [Schnitz]
- :-)
- 16:54:58 [Schnitz]
- zakim, who is here?
- 16:54:58 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see wellsk, John_Boyer, Roger, unl (muted), Schnitz (muted), Charles_Wiecha, ebruchez, Blake, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, Leigh_Klotz, Steven, markbirbeck
- 16:54:58 [Steven]
- Excellent
- 16:55:03 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see Roger_, klotz, Blake, NickVdB, ebruchez, CharlieWiecha, unl, Schnitz, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, markbirbeck, ShaneM, Steven, trackbot-ng
- 16:55:59 [unl]
- i'm willing to help wherever i can
- 16:56:08 [ebruchez]
- same here
- 16:56:38 [NickVdB]
- yes
- 16:56:39 [Schnitz]
- I will be not helping at all, and do my best to hinder any development
- 16:56:47 [Schnitz]
- just kidding :-)
- 16:56:47 [unl]
- we know
- 16:56:52 [NickVdB]
- help is welcome ;)
- 16:57:08 [NickVdB]
- zakim, mute me
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- Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
- 16:58:12 [NickVdB]
- John you are the 2.0 master
- 16:58:22 [Schnitz]
- yep
- 16:58:26 [Schnitz]
- John!
- 16:58:29 [wellsk]
- +1 for John
- 16:59:21 [CharlieWiecha]
- +1 for modules
- 16:59:29 [NickVdB]
- +1 for modules
- 17:00:28 [Schnitz]
- bye :-)
- 17:00:29 [Zakim]
- -Leigh_Klotz
- 17:00:30 [NickVdB]
- talk to you next week
- 17:00:31 [Roger_]
- byw
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- -wellsk
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- -markbirbeck
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- -Blake
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- -Steven
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- wellsk has left #forms
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- -Charles_Wiecha
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- -unl
- 17:00:53 [klotz]
- Was Erik here?
- 17:00:57 [Zakim]
- -Nick_van_den_Bleeken
- 17:01:05 [Zakim]
- -John_Boyer
- 17:01:05 [klotz]
- ?seen ebruchez
- 17:01:06 [CharlieWiecha]
- don't think so, no
- 17:01:07 [Zakim]
- -ebruchez
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- -Schnitz
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- -Roger
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- HTML_Forms()11:00AM has ended
- 17:01:17 [CharlieWiecha]
- but his line just hung up???
- 17:01:19 [Zakim]
- Attendees were wellsk, +1.250.294.aaaa, John_Boyer, unl, Roger, +49.308.3.aabb, Charles_Wiecha, Schnitz, ebruchez, Blake, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, Leigh_Klotz, Steven, markbirbeck
- 17:01:19 [klotz]
- OK, yes I see he was.
- 17:01:35 [CharlieWiecha]
- k
- 17:01:35 [John_Boyer]
- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/11/21-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
- 17:01:44 [John_Boyer]
- rrsagent, bye
- 17:01:44 [RRSAgent]
- I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/21-forms-actions.rdf :
- 17:01:44 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Leigh Klotz to ask Mark Seaborne for XForms 1.0 Basic implementation report status. [1]
- 17:01:44 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/21-forms-irc#T16-09-14
- 17:01:44 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: John Boyer to add example for inputmode to issues list (received indirectly as comment but after last call deadline) and to contact Yam. [2]
- 17:01:44 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/21-forms-irc#T16-14-14-1