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15:57:02 <TomB> rrsagent, bookmark
15:57:02 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/11/20-swd-irc#T15-57-02
15:57:21 <TomB> zakim, this will be swd
15:57:21 <Zakim> ok, TomB, I see SW_SWD()11:00AM already started
15:57:28 <TomB> Meeting: SWD WG
15:57:31 <Zakim> + +39.065.7.aaaa
15:57:32 <TomB> Chair: guus
15:57:34 <Zakim> -??P3
15:57:35 <Zakim> +??P3
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15:58:56 <Zakim> +[LC]
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15:59:15 <TomB> zakim, who is on the call?
15:59:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P3, [LC]
15:59:27 <edsu> Zakim: LC is edsu
15:59:52 <TomB> zakim, ??P3 is me
15:59:52 <Zakim> +Quentin
15:59:53 <Zakim> +TomB; got it
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16:00:16 <edsu> Zakim, LC is edsu
16:00:16 <Zakim> +edsu; got it
16:00:41 <Zakim> +[VrijeUni]
16:00:43 <TomB> Regrets: Ralph, Daniel
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16:00:52 <TomB> rrsagent, please make record public
16:01:20 <Zakim> +[LC]
16:01:23 <qreul> Scribe: Quentin
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16:01:42 <Zakim> +??P29
16:01:47 <qreul> Scribenick: qreul
16:01:52 <TomB> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2007/11/06-swd-minutes.html
16:01:55 <Zakim> +??P28
16:01:57 <vit> Zakim, +P29  is vit
16:02:01 <Zakim> sorry, vit, I do not recognize a party named '+P29'
16:02:11 <TomB> zakim, ??P28 is aliman
16:02:21 <Zakim> +aliman; got it
16:02:25 <vit> Zakim, ??P29  is vit
16:02:41 <Zakim> +vit; got it
16:02:47 <Zakim> +encarna
16:02:54 <berrueta> Zakim, encarna is me
16:02:57 <TomB> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Nov/0032.html
16:03:29 <Zakim> +berrueta; got it
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16:03:52 <Zakim> +Antoine_Isaac
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16:04:25 <Guus> zakim, who is here?
16:04:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see TomB, edsu, Quentin, [VrijeUni], [LC], vit, aliman, berrueta, Antoine_Isaac
16:04:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see JonP, seanb, Guus, Antoine, berrueta, aliman, edsu, qreul, RRSAgent, Zakim, vit, TomB
16:04:55 <Zakim> +??P12
16:05:03 <edsu> Zakim, VrijeUni is Guus
16:05:14 <Zakim> +Guus; got it
16:05:15 <qreul> Topic: Admin
16:05:20 <seanb> zakim, P12 is seanb
16:05:29 <edsu> Zakim, LC is Justin
16:05:33 <Zakim> sorry, seanb, I do not recognize a party named 'P12'
16:05:43 <Zakim> +Justin; got it
16:05:47 <Zakim> +Jon_Phipps
16:05:56 <seanb> zakim, ??P12 is seanb
16:06:06 <qreul> DONE to accept minutes of the Nov 6 telecon
16:06:09 <Zakim> +seanb; got it
16:06:21 <qreul> RESOLVED to accept minutes of the Nov 6 telecon
16:06:41 <qreul> Topic: SKOS
16:07:02 <qreul> Schedule for SKOS deliverables
16:07:52 <qreul> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables#SKOS
16:08:10 <aliman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Nov/0036.html -> Alistair's schedule for SKOS
16:08:41 <qreul> ACTION: Alistair will to update deliverables for SKOS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/06-swd-minutes.html#action02]
16:09:22 <qreul> RESOLVED
16:10:06 <qreul> aliman suggest to look @ alternative to be added to Editor's draft
16:10:18 <qreul> .. needing something about mapping
16:10:39 <qreul> ACTION: qreul to review Editor's draft
16:11:04 <qreul> ACTION: vit to review Editor's draft
16:11:37 <qreul> ACTION: Alistair and Guus write draft section in primer on relationship between SKOS concepts and OWL classes for OWL DL users [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/06-swd-minutes.html#action05]
16:12:01 <qreul> dropped
16:12:07 <qreul> continues
16:12:10 <qreul> ACTION: Alistair to update semantics document to listing ways in which SKOS diverges from OWL DL [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/08-swd-minutes.html#action06]
16:12:23 <qreul> dropped
16:12:35 <qreul> ACTION: Alistair will to update deliverables for SKOS [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/06-swd-minutes.html#action02]
16:12:39 <qreul> done
16:12:59 <qreul> ACTION: Ed to write suggest some text about SKOS message for SWEO Semantic Web FAQ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/06-swd-minutes.html#action24]
16:13:28 <edsu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Nov/0030.html
16:13:49 <qreul> --done
16:14:05 <qreul> ACTION: Tom to amend proposals to for accepting minimal relation labels [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/23-swd-minutes.html#action12]
16:14:07 <qreul> --done
16:14:19 <qreul> ACTION: Alistair and Guus to prepare material for next week on Concept Schemes vs OWL Ontologies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/30-swd-minutes.html#action04]
16:14:27 <TomB> ACTION: Alistair and Guus write draft section in primer on relationship between SKOS concepts and OWL classes for OWL DL users [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/06-swd-minutes.html#action05]
16:14:31 <TomB> -- dropped
16:14:31 <qreul> --dropped
16:14:41 <qreul> ACTION: Guus to write up the issue [of Label Resource] and add to the issue list. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/09-swd-minutes.html#action01]
16:15:04 <qreul> --continues
16:15:13 <qreul> ACTION: Ralph to reconstruct proposal for semantics of isDefinedBy [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
16:15:36 <qreul> --continues
16:16:23 <qreul> Ed reviewed text about SKOS for Semantic Web FAQ
16:16:35 <qreul> ... chnage suggested to way it presented
16:17:02 <TomB> [Ed's review: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Nov/0030.html]
16:17:13 <qreul> ... SKOS is an ontology that can be reused
16:18:03 <qreul> ... SKOS could help Flickr (folksonomies) to be published
16:19:05 <qreul> Guus suggests to wait a few days and sent it before the next telecon to SWEO
16:19:21 <qreul> ACTION: Ed to send review to SWEO by next telecon
16:19:53 <edsu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Nov/0043.html
16:20:19 <qreul> Group to look @ priority list
16:20:41 <qreul> aliman describe the different issues to be resolved for first publication
16:20:59 <qreul> ... f2f identified issue 39 and issue 56
16:21:21 <qreul> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/39
16:21:28 <qreul> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/56 
16:21:52 <qreul> ... propose adding issues on SKOS documentation
16:22:01 <qreul> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/27
16:22:17 <qreul> ... also raised issue 64 and issue 65
16:22:25 <qreul> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/64
16:22:38 <qreul> design patterns
16:22:41 <qreul> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/65
16:23:09 <qreul> note with different type of XML
16:23:57 <qreul> Antoine says the mapping is very important and will produce a document next week
16:24:23 <qreul> ... minimum solution to mapping 
16:24:46 <qreul> ... but wonders whether should concentrate on SKOS documentation properties
16:24:53 <qreul> Guus happy to leave it out too
16:25:20 <qreul> aliman wonders whether we can stick with what has been defined so far
16:25:40 <qreul> ... issue 27 need to be resolved
16:25:53 <qreul> Guus suggest that solution to issue 26 can be reused
16:26:16 <qreul> aliman informs that we currently have a link to a literal
16:26:44 <qreul> ... propose having one property linking to a literal
16:27:05 <qreul> Antoine thinks that both issues have the same technical problem
16:27:21 <qreul> ... and should use the same solution
16:27:46 <qreul> Guus assumed that the group would use his proposal to solve issue 26
16:28:16 <qreul> ... but current proposal could cause a problem with issue 27
16:28:58 <qreul> aliman happy to own issue 64 and 65
16:29:09 <qreul> Guus takes over issue 27
16:30:25 <qreul> aliman suggest that the solution to issue 56 is whether or not it is in the scope of the 1st SKOS document
16:31:01 <qreul> ... potential treading on logical language such as OWL
16:31:24 <qreul> seanb to take over issue 56
16:31:24 <edsu> seanb++
16:31:53 <Zakim> -Guus
16:32:04 <qreul> Topic: RDFa
16:34:05 <qreul> ACTION: Ben and Michael to address comments by Tom [regarding maintenance of wiki document http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa]
16:34:08 <qreul> --continues
16:34:16 <qreul> ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/08-swd-minutes.html#action03]
16:34:18 <qreul> -- continues
16:34:26 <qreul> ACTION: Ben to update RDFa schedule in wiki [http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa#RDFa_schedule] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/08-swd-minutes.html#action04]
16:34:29 <qreul> -- continues
16:34:36 <qreul> ACTION: Guus/Tom to propose joint decisions for reviews for major [RDFa] steps/transition requests. Informal agreement about working drafts. 
16:34:38 <qreul> -- continues
16:34:50 <qreul> Topic: Recipes
16:34:58 <qreul> ACTION: Dan to ask apache about conditional redirects [recorded in 
16:35:01 <qreul> - continues
16:35:13 <qreul> ACTION: Diego to recast Recipe 6 [recorded in 
16:35:16 <qreul> -- continues
16:35:24 <qreul> ACTION: Guus/Tom to solicit reviewers for the Recipes document. 
16:35:33 <qreul> -- continues
16:35:40 <qreul> ACTION: Jon to add words that acknowledge the existence of RDFa as 
16:35:43 <qreul> continues
16:35:51 <qreul> ACTION: Jon to make changes as proposed [with regard to Issue-23] 
16:35:55 <qreul> -- continues
16:36:04 <qreul> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" 
16:36:07 <qreul> -- continues
16:36:15 <qreul> ACTION: Ralph to come up with a URI for wiki page [for Recipes 
16:36:19 <qreul> -- continues
16:36:26 <qreul> ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes] 
16:36:28 <qreul> - continues
16:36:48 <qreul> ACTION: TF leaders to prepare a version of Recipes for review in 
16:37:14 <qreul> -- continues
16:37:26 <qreul> Topic: VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT
16:37:33 <qreul> ACTION: Vit and Elisa to include in the document all the target sections 
16:37:36 <qreul> -- continues
16:37:53 <qreul> Topic: AOB
16:38:06 <qreul> SWEO request for input to Semantic Web FAQ re: SKOS
16:39:55 <Zakim> -Justin
16:39:57 <Zakim> -vit
16:39:57 <Zakim> -Jon_Phipps
16:40:01 <Zakim> -seanb
16:40:02 <Zakim> -berrueta
16:40:44 <TomB> zakim, list attendees
16:40:44 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +39.065.7.aaaa, Quentin, TomB, edsu, aliman, vit, berrueta, Antoine_Isaac, Guus, Justin, Jon_Phipps, seanb
16:41:23 <TomB> rrsagent, please draft minutes
16:41:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/11/20-swd-minutes.html TomB
16:41:31 <TomB> Quentin?
16:41:37 <qreul> yes
16:42:15 <TomB> if you edit  http://www.w3.org/2007/11/20-swd-minutes.html and send the edited HTML to Ralph, he can post it
16:42:30 <qreul> thanks
16:42:36 <Zakim> -Quentin
16:42:40 <TomB> there is a summary of actions at the end
16:43:07 <TomB> ...the summary of actions needs to be correct, because that is carried over into the next agenda
16:43:33 <seanb> seanb has left #swd
16:43:39 <TomB> quentin, thank you for scribing!
16:43:48 <qreul> no problems
16:52:41 <edsu> i'm here on the phone too btw, in the interests of full disclosure :)
16:53:34 <Zakim> -Antoine_Isaac
16:53:37 <Zakim> -aliman
16:53:42 <TomB> edsu?
16:53:44 <Zakim> -edsu
16:53:49 <edsu> still here on irc
16:53:57 <edsu> what's up Tom?
16:54:00 <TomB> wanted to ask about LC vocabularies
16:54:10 <edsu> oh shoot, you want me to call back in?
16:54:15 <TomB> sure!
16:54:17 <edsu> k
16:54:48 <Zakim> +[LC]
16:54:55 <Zakim> -[LC]
16:55:10 <TomB> trying again?
16:55:11 <Zakim> +[LC]
16:55:19 <edsu> still muted?
16:55:27 <TomB> zakim, please unmute me
16:55:27 <Zakim> TomB should no longer be muted
17:07:32 <Zakim> -TomB
17:07:33 <Zakim> -[LC]
17:07:35 <Zakim> SW_SWD()11:00AM has ended
17:07:37 <Zakim> Attendees were +39.065.7.aaaa, Quentin, TomB, edsu, aliman, vit, berrueta, Antoine_Isaac, Guus, Justin, Jon_Phipps, seanb, [LC]
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