21:17:27 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 21:17:27 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-wai-wcag-irc 21:17:37 infront of invite 21:17:43 I did it now 21:17:51 Thanks! 21:18:10 Action: test 21:18:14 +Cooper 21:22:10 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007OctDec/0075.html 21:22:33 meeting: WCAG 21:22:41 chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid 21:22:46 scribe: David 21:23:08 regrets: Roberto Scano, Roberto Ellero, Christophe Strobbe, Andrew LaHart, Sean Hayes, Sofia, Alex 21:28:26 +Tim_Boland 21:28:30 Tim has joined #wai-wcag 21:29:00 action: Loretta to set an agenda item for next item to ratify actions taken at this meeting 21:29:57 topic: Miscellaneous Proposals for 08 Nov 2007 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20071108misc/results 21:30:14 topic: 1969 21:33:32 Resolution: not accepted, take response from michael's survey question or see bug 1969 21:33:47 Topic: 2356 21:38:34 We believe Horizontal scrolling is an accessibility issue. At level 3 we are aiming for accessibility without assistive technology (direct access) It's an issue for low vision users not not using AT, Cognitive. 21:42:55 Suggestion: modify SC 1.4.8 horizontal scroll exception if one word is wider than the viewport causing Horizonal scroll. 21:43:14 s/Horizonal/Horizontal 21:45:46 action: David to check for resources of 1.5 space. 21:49:32 action: David to propose response to 2356 21:49:51 topic: Miscellaneous Proposals for 15 Nov 2007 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20071115misc/results 21:52:00 Topic: Proposal to Remove SC from Failure titles 21:52:52 David, are you still there? 21:53:08 awk has joined #WAI-WCAG 21:53:13 RESOLUTION: do not change failure titles 21:53:30 action: Michael to make sure SC references in failure titles are correct for this draft 21:54:30 topic: Issue 1933: asking the entire web to become authors for those who do not comprehend English 21:55:17 +David_MacDonald.a 21:55:28 David_MacDonald has joined #wai-wcag 21:55:50 test 21:57:23 resolution: accept 1933 as amended 21:57:51 TOpic: 2054 22:01:30 David_MacDonald has joined #wai-wcag 22:03:30 David has joined #wai-wcag 22:03:37 +David_MacDonald.aa 22:04:25 Resolution: 2054 accepted as amended 22:06:07 Topic: 2029 22:06:18 Resolution: Accept 2029 unanimous 22:06:29 Topic: 2034 22:06:55 Resolution: accept 2034 accepted as proposed 22:07:02 Topic: 2059 22:07:21 Resolution: Accept as pro0osed 22:08:05 Resolution: accept 2059 as proposed 22:08:17 Topic: 2361 22:08:40 +Andrew 22:09:21 Action: Cynthia to add example to H42 of non-hierarchy headings 22:09:39 Resolution: Accept 2361 as proposed 22:14:32 Topic: Proposed Rewording for Second Exception of SC 1.1.1 (Non-text Content) 22:14:34 -Andrew 22:20:54 The group felt that the ordered second exception was clearer and it also meet the disires of the cognitive community not to use inline lists. 22:22:07 action: Michael to apply Cynthia's comments formmating check 1.1.1 22:22:16 Resolution: Accepted Proposed Rewording for Second Exception of SC 1.1.1 (Non-text Content) 22:22:50 Topic: SC 3.3.4 Technique: Asking for confirmation before final submission 22:24:34 Accept: SC 3.3.4 Technique: Asking for confirmation before final submission as amended 22:25:09 Topic: Response from Jason White on Issue 1940 22:26:52 action: Loretta to propoose response based on survey comments to Accept: SC 3.3.4 Technique: Asking for confirmation before final submission as amended 22:28:10 Topic: Anrew's favorite Proposed Rewording for SC 2.4.3 (Focus Order) 22:32:44 put this topic on hold for 10 minutes go to next topic wait for Andrew 22:32:55 Topic: Failure of SC 3.3.2 by visually formatting a set of phone number fields but not including a text label 22:34:00 awk has joined #WAI-WCAG 22:34:37 +Andrew 22:35:19 Topic: Proposed Rewording for SC 2.4.3 (Focus Order) 22:55:48 -Andrew 22:55:55 action: Andrew to review Proposed Rewording for SC 2.4.3 (Focus Order) and respond to list 23:00:03 +??P4 23:00:22 Action: Cynthia and Loretta to look at intent section of Proposed Rewording for SC 2.4.3 (Focus Order) and respond to list 23:00:33 zakim, ??P4 is Katie 23:00:33 +Katie; got it 23:01:04 Resolution: Put Proposed Rewording for SC 2.4.3 (Focus Order) and respond to list on hold 23:02:13 s/and respond to list/ 23:02:37 rrsagent, make log world 23:03:14 Topic:Failure of SC 3.3.2 by visually formatting a set of phone number fields but not including a text label 23:03:29 -Tim_Boland 23:11:37 Action: Cynthia to rewrite Failure of SC 3.3.2 by visually formatting a set of phone number fields but not including a text label 23:14:56 -Katie 23:14:57 -Cynthia_Shelley 23:14:59 -Bengt_Farre 23:14:59 -David_MacDonald.aa 23:15:00 -Cooper 23:15:04 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 23:15:17 zakim, drop David 23:15:17 'David' is ambiguous, MichaelC 23:15:24 zakim, who's on the phone? 23:15:24 On the phone I see David_MacDonald, David_MacDonald.a 23:15:30 zakim, drop David_MacDonald 23:15:30 David_MacDonald is being disconnected 23:15:32 -David_MacDonald 23:15:34 zakim, drop David_MacDonald.a 23:15:34 David_MacDonald.a is being disconnected 23:15:36 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended 23:15:38 Attendees were David_MacDonald, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bengt_Farre, [IPcaller], Cynthia_Shelley, Cooper, Tim_Boland, Andrew, Katie 23:15:45 zakim, bye 23:15:45 Zakim has left #wai-wcag 23:15:49 rrsagent, bye 23:15:49 I see 11 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-wai-wcag-actions.rdf : 23:15:49 ACTION: test [1] 23:15:49 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-wai-wcag-irc#T21-18-10 23:15:49 ACTION: Loretta to set an agenda item for next item to ratify actions taken at this meeting [2] 23:15:49 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-wai-wcag-irc#T21-29-00 23:15:49 ACTION: David to check for resources of 1.5 space. [3] 23:15:49 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-wai-wcag-irc#T21-45-46 23:15:49 ACTION: David to propose response to 2356 [4] 23:15:49 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-wai-wcag-irc#T21-49-32 23:15:49 ACTION: Michael to make sure SC references in failure titles are correct for this draft [5] 23:15:49 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-wai-wcag-irc#T21-53-30 23:15:49 ACTION: Cynthia to add example to H42 of non-hierarchy headings [6] 23:15:49 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-wai-wcag-irc#T22-09-21 23:15:49 ACTION: Michael to apply Cynthia's comments formmating check 1.1.1 [7] 23:15:49 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-wai-wcag-irc#T22-22-07 23:15:49 ACTION: Loretta to propoose response based on survey comments to Accept: SC 3.3.4 Technique: Asking for confirmation before final submission as amended [8] 23:15:49 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-wai-wcag-irc#T22-26-52 23:15:49 ACTION: Andrew to review Proposed Rewording for SC 2.4.3 (Focus Order) and respond to list [9] 23:15:49 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-wai-wcag-irc#T22-55-55 23:15:49 ACTION: Cynthia and Loretta to look at intent section of Proposed Rewording for SC 2.4.3 (Focus Order) and respond to list [10] 23:15:49 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-wai-wcag-irc#T23-00-22 23:15:49 ACTION: Cynthia to rewrite Failure of SC 3.3.2 by visually formatting a set of phone number fields but not including a text label [11] 23:15:49 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-wai-wcag-irc#T23-11-37 23:15:58 bengt has left #wai-wcag