IRC log of dawg on 2007-11-13

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14:19:00 [LeeF]
zakim, this will be dawg
14:19:00 [Zakim]
ok, LeeF; I see SW_DAWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
14:19:15 [LeeF]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007OctDec/0055.html
14:19:21 [LeeF]
LeeF has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007OctDec/0055.html
14:19:28 [LeeF]
Meeting: RDF Data Access Weekly
14:19:32 [LeeF]
Chair: LeeF
14:19:36 [LeeF]
agenda + convene
14:19:50 [LeeF]
agenda + REDUCED tests
14:19:57 [LeeF]
agenda + implementation report
14:20:01 [LeeF]
agenda + testimonials
14:20:14 [LeeF]
agenda + RDF-RDB workshop debrief?
14:25:11 [AndyS]
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14:27:29 [LeeF]
Regrets: chimezie
14:27:57 [Zakim]
SW_DAWG()9:30AM has now started
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+LeeF
14:30:18 [Zakim]
+??P8
14:30:19 [Zakim]
-??P8
14:30:20 [Zakim]
+??P8
14:31:26 [AndyS]
zakim, ??P8 is me
14:31:26 [Zakim]
+AndyS; got it
14:31:41 [AndyS]
(probably, at least)
14:33:57 [LeeF]
ericP, swh, iv_an_ru - are you around to join us?
14:35:07 [LeeF]
swh, any chance you've had an opportunity to run or look at the REDUCED tests ?
14:35:26 [swh]
LeeF: no, I dont have time to modify my harness to run the tests, so I've not looked
14:35:32 [swh]
I could maybe eyeball them?
14:36:18 [LeeF]
I would like that :)
14:36:30 [swh]
do you have an URL?
14:36:36 [LeeF]
(getting it)
14:36:50 [LeeF]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/reduced/
14:37:47 [swh]
thanks
14:38:30 [Zakim]
+??P9
14:38:47 [LeeF]
zakim, ??P9 is Orri_Erling
14:38:47 [Zakim]
+Orri_Erling; got it
14:39:23 [LeeF]
agenda?
14:40:02 [LeeF]
zakim, take up agendum 2
14:40:02 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "REDUCED tests" taken up [from LeeF]
14:40:17 [LeeF]
Orri: iv_an_ru has looked at the REDUCED tests and they are ok
14:40:50 [LeeF]
-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007OctDec/0062.html AndyS's results on REDUCED tests
14:43:04 [swh]
LeeF, I agree with the test - if the semantics of mf:ReducedCardinalityTest are that the cardinality should be [1,n] when n is what's in the results file
14:43:09 [swh]
* tests
14:43:21 [LeeF]
swh, those are exactly the intended semantics
14:43:34 [swh]
LeeF, neat
14:43:56 [swh]
LeeF, note, I've not actually run them, but they look good to me
14:44:22 [LeeF]
That's ok, we've got two successful runs (AndyS and me) and two other eyeballs
14:45:13 [Zakim]
-Orri_Erling
14:45:17 [LeeF]
PROPOSE: Approve the two syntax tests and two evalutation tests for REDUCED as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007OctDec/0060.html modulo manifest change to use something other than rdf:type for indicating that it's a "REDUCED" test
14:45:51 [swh]
sure, can I do that over IRC?
14:46:04 [LeeF]
Yup
14:46:12 [swh]
ok, then I will :)
14:46:40 [AndyS]
SECONDED: swh
14:46:42 [LeeF]
any objections or abstentions?
14:46:49 [LeeF]
resolved.
14:47:11 [LeeF]
agenda ?
14:47:53 [LeeF]
topic: Edits during PR
14:48:00 [LeeF]
AndyS: Can the editors make any changes at all to the documents during PR?
14:48:10 [LeeF]
LeeF: The process document doesn't seem to say one way or the other
14:48:15 [LeeF]
... I will investigate further
14:48:34 [LeeF]
ACTION: LeeF to determine if any edits can be made between PR and Rec, or if all further edits become errata
14:49:05 [LeeF]
ACTION: LeeF mark reduced tests approve and update manifest with new way of indicating that a test uses reduced semantics
14:49:25 [LeeF]
ACTION: LeeF to solicit implementation results from reduced tests
14:49:30 [swh]
LeeF, I've got an outstanding action to extract a testimonial - when's the deadline on that
14:49:41 [LeeF]
topic: testimonials
14:49:54 [LeeF]
LeeF: I need to talk to W3C folks, but I'm guessing the deadline will be 2nd week of December
14:50:01 [AndyS]
which is Dec 14
14:50:15 [LeeF]
LeeF: But the informal deadline is ASAP :-)
14:50:37 [swh]
ok, I'll start the process - is there somewhere to crib good examples from?
14:51:19 [swh]
hrm, we may not want our testimonial to go out before our press embargo on the 28th, but that's still before the deadline
14:51:27 [Zakim]
+??P9
14:51:44 [AndyS]
zakim, ??P9 is Orri
14:51:44 [Zakim]
+Orri; got it
14:52:16 [LeeF]
-> http://www.w3.org/2004/12/testimonial_pr-guidelines.html testimonial guidelines, with links to examples
14:52:38 [LeeF]
swh, the 28th of November or of December?
14:54:51 [LeeF]
ADJOURNED
14:54:57 [LeeF]
...discussion of benchmarking XG follows
14:55:04 [LeeF]
RRSAgent, make logs world
14:55:11 [LeeF]
rrsagent, make minutes
14:55:11 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-dawg-minutes.html LeeF
14:56:56 [swh]
LeeF: 28th Nov
14:57:16 [LeeF]
ah, ok, I understand
14:57:34 [LeeF]
big Garlik announcement(s) forthcoming?
14:57:38 [swh]
yeah
14:58:39 [swh]
I was just expressing interest, rather than free time :)
14:58:48 [swh]
some sort of +1 to the idea
15:04:13 [LeeF]
:-)
15:09:17 [Zakim]
-LeeF
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-AndyS
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15:10:26 [Zakim]
-Orri
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SW_DAWG()9:30AM has ended
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Attendees were LeeF, AndyS, Orri_Erling, Orri
15:24:36 [LeeF]
rrsagent, bye
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I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-dawg-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: LeeF to determine if any edits can be made between PR and Rec, or if all further edits become errata [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-dawg-irc#T14-48-34
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ACTION: LeeF mark reduced tests approve and update manifest with new way of indicating that a test uses reduced semantics [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-dawg-irc#T14-49-05
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ACTION: LeeF to solicit implementation results from reduced tests [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-dawg-irc#T14-49-25
15:24:38 [LeeF]
zakim, bye
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