IRC log of hcls on 2007-11-01

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rrsagent, set logs world-visible
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SW_HCLS()11:00AM has now started
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+tnbhat
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+Susie_Stephens
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+Jonathan_Rees
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+Alan
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15:04:54 [eneumann]
zakim, who's here?
15:04:54 [Zakim]
On the phone I see tnbhat, Susie_Stephens, Jonathan_Rees, Alan, Eric_Neumann
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On IRC I see Susie, RRSAgent, Zakim, eneumann, jar, ericP
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+??P12
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+Vipul_Kashyap
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+??P24
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zakim, P12 is matthiassamwald
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sorry, eneumann, I do not recognize a party named 'P12'
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zakim, ??P12 is matthiassamwald
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+matthiassamwald; got it
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zakim, ??P24 is scottmarshall
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+scottmarshall; got it
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+EricP
15:08:12 [jar]
eric n is echoing when he speaks. someone is feeding his voice back
15:08:47 [alanr]
zakim, who is on the call?
15:08:47 [Zakim]
On the phone I see tnbhat, Susie_Stephens, Jonathan_Rees, Alan, Eric_Neumann, matthiassamwald, Vipul_Kashyap, scottmarshall, EricP
15:11:44 [eneumann]
zakim, pick a victim
15:11:44 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Eric_Neumann
15:11:47 [jar]
http://sw.neurocommons.org/2007/uri-note/35/
15:12:00 [mscottm]
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15:12:02 [jar]
http://sw.neurocommons.org/2007/uri-note/ will be the current version as the thing evolves
15:12:04 [ericP]
next call: 15 november, scribe: Eric_Neumann
15:12:14 [ericP]
next call: 15 november, chari: Tonya, scribe: Eric_Neumann
15:12:46 [ericP]
scribe: ericP
15:13:25 [ericP]
Topic: URI Note
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-> http://sw.neurocommons.org/2007/uri-note/ URI Note
15:13:48 [ericP]
jar: goal: get HCLS to bless a URI note
15:14:00 [ericP]
... shoorting for end of Dec when charter expires
15:14:07 [ericP]
... missing probably not a disaster
15:14:22 [matthiassamwald]
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... need this group to decide to put up a draft
15:14:53 [ericP]
... will continue to work in situ
15:15:21 [ericP]
... needs a week to meet publishing practice
15:15:29 [ericP]
... needs TOC and refs
15:15:40 [alanr]
:)
15:15:51 [ericP]
... also have list of 50-60 little things to do before pub
15:16:12 [ericP]
... e.g. align with other document terminology
15:17:06 [ericP]
ACTION: jar to announce URI Note to hcls list on Monday
15:17:20 [ericP]
jar: would like folks to look at the doc before Fri
15:17:43 [ericP]
... will do a presentation at f2f
15:19:10 [ericP]
... would like WG to decide (at f2f) to publish subject to finite modification list
15:19:30 [ericP]
eneumann: would like folks to think about this being an HCLS document
15:20:03 [ericP]
jar: i would expect 2-3 round of review between 9Nov and 31Dec
15:21:02 [ericP]
eneumann: shall we contact the comm team and do a press release?
15:21:32 [ericP]
Susie: could write a blog on the homepage (picked up by PlanetRDF so it gets some visibility)
15:22:18 [ericP]
eneumann: do you think IUPAC would consider this note for identifiers in the chem domain?
15:23:13 [ericP]
tnbhat: i am working woth Royal Society of (for?) Chemistry
15:23:35 [ericP]
... [X] seems to like our way of doing this [assigning identifiers]
15:24:05 [ericP]
... need a rule based approach to be appropriately scalabale
15:24:11 [ericP]
... in that way, INCHI helps
15:24:23 [jar]
q+
15:24:29 [ericP]
eneumann: we want to circle back with these orgs at the appropriate time
15:25:23 [eneumann]
zakim, ack jar
15:25:23 [Zakim]
I see no one on the speaker queue
15:25:25 [ericP]
tnbaht: will contact [Y] when i have more work done on the protien database
15:25:43 [vipul]
q+ re: anyone from NIST coming to F2F?
15:25:51 [ericP]
jar: the URI note talks about good practice -- very meta
15:26:50 [ericP]
current plan: jar will edit URI Note in situ and we will copy out only when we publish
15:27:04 [jar]
doc is highly labile. don't read it this weekend
15:27:06 [Zakim]
+Tanya_Hongsermeier
15:27:08 [jar]
read it on monday
15:27:24 [ericP]
eneumann: y'all, please read the note
15:27:35 [vipul]
http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability/November20007F2FAgenda.html
15:27:36 [ericP]
Topic: f2f invitations
15:27:55 [jar]
yes, do read it, but wait until monday so that everyone's reviewing the same version. i will be pushing out 1-2 new versions daily until monday
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15:27:59 [ericP]
-> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/ClinicalObservationsInteroperability/November20007F2FAgenda.html tentative COI agenda
15:28:05 [Susie]
q+
15:28:25 [Susie]
Agenda for F2F is also at http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/F2F/2007/11/Agenda
15:29:08 [ericP]
vipul: moving towards a motivating proof of concept
15:29:36 [ericP]
... based on reg info, i've characterized the list of participants
15:29:53 [ericP]
... goal is to get buy-in from them and move on to the next step
15:30:11 [ericP]
... all participants are equal, but some are more equal than others
15:30:51 [ericP]
... would saying so violate W3C rules?
15:31:05 [ericP]
ericP: no, but it helps to justify your choices
15:31:32 [ericP]
alanr: moderator can encourage health care providers to give input
15:32:06 [ericP]
vipul: a fellow from seimmans (SP?)
15:32:56 [ericP]
... energy from Cisco. any contacts at W3C?
15:33:11 [ericP]
ericP: only know of video players at Cisco
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[Susie expressed knowledge of Cisco hc activity]
15:34:02 [ericP]
ACTION: eneumann to contact Robert Vanmanen from Face Forward
15:34:18 [ericP]
vipul: also heard from marcus collins
15:34:31 [Susie]
It's Robert Van Manen from Phase Forward
15:34:33 [ericP]
... [Z] from CDISK will miss Thu
15:35:00 [ericP]
alanr: Mike Bevil (Merck) may get someone to come
15:35:03 [jar]
ericp, fwiw, i think i'm supposed to tell vipul how to recategorize science commons for his coi wiki page - i think this is an action item
15:35:16 [ericP]
vipul: start with introduction (ericN and Tonya)
15:35:40 [ericP]
... use case (30 mins): where semweb can help with patient recruitment
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... use case will be presented by Rachel
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... followed by detailed clinical model
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... chimezie will present his semantic @@ system
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... @@
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... round table brainstorming session
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... hit on 3:
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... .. resources commitments
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... .. getting de-identified patient data
15:37:54 [alanr]
q+
15:38:16 [ericP]
ACTION: Vipul to contact Steven Dobsen of Pfizer
15:38:30 [mscottm]
Isn't Pfizer in Boston?
15:38:35 [alanr]
some
15:39:22 [ericP]
vipul: .. deveoper resources (like science commons did for the Banff demo)
15:39:38 [ericP]
ack Susie
15:39:44 [eneumann]
?q
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q?
15:39:50 [ericP]
Susie: agenda looks wonderful. could you link it in?
15:40:20 [ericP]
ACTION: vipul to link main f2f agenda page to COI agenda page
15:40:37 [ericP]
alanr: let's spread out during breaks and collect ideas
15:41:17 [ericP]
ACTION: vipul to send notes and/or phone desired contacts
15:41:57 [alanr]
ack alanr
15:42:03 [ericP]
vipul: will be putting up slides on agenda wiki
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... please comment as to wether they address benifits to stakeholders
15:42:53 [ericP]
eneumann: did you consider the JANIS (SP?) project?
15:43:29 [alanr]
http://www.cfpc.ca/English/cfpc/research/janus%20project/general%20information/default.asp?s=1
15:43:30 [eneumann]
JANUS
15:44:20 [ericP]
-> http://crix.nci.nih.gov/projects/janus/ JANUS
15:44:44 [ericP]
-> http://crix.nci.nih.gov/projects/janus/ CRIX JANUS page
15:44:45 [Susie]
Jeff Rideout if the guy I came across at Cisco (http://tools.cisco.com/dlls/tln/page/media/perspectives/detail/ep/2005/jeff-rideout-01)
15:45:22 [ericP]
ACTION: eneumann to ask Mark Eermette to show up
15:45:41 [eneumann]
s/Eermette/Vermette
15:45:49 [ericP]
alanr: make sure you Cc: amy@w3.org so she can register anyone you invite
15:46:35 [eneumann]
http://crix.nci.nih.gov/projects/janus
15:46:36 [alanr]
must have opportunity to imbibe :)
15:47:06 [ericP]
vipul: need a local for brainstorming session
15:47:24 [ericP]
ericP: bar, resto, Stata Center (1.1 miles)
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15:47:47 [eneumann]
also, https://cabig.nci.nih.gov/workspaces/CTMS/Meetings/Face_to_Face/2007_May_F2F/SIG_Breakout_Reporting_and_Sharing.ppt
15:48:00 [ericP]
we may be meeting the TAG at this time
15:48:48 [ericP]
vipul: feel free to change the wiki. (try not to delete stuff)
15:49:30 [alanr]
particularly if they want to pick up the tab :)
15:50:46 [alanr]
Do we want to ask John Barkley?
15:50:58 [alanr]
Wasn't he at NIST?
15:51:02 [ericP]
ACITON: ericP to check with Amy to see if it's useful for W3C to request a restaurant res for 10 people
15:51:03 [alanr]
q?
15:51:20 [alanr]
I worry 10 will be too few unless invitations are managed
15:51:44 [vipul]
http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/144460/
15:52:15 [ericP]
Susie: Jeff Rideout manages internet solution business groups
15:52:34 [alanr]
7 people are on vipul's list already, and that only includes a couple of invitees
15:52:38 [ericP]
... Kevin Dean is the interim health care guy
15:52:53 [jar]
status of TAG scheduling situation: Stuart put a query out on Oct 29 asking generally who could/couldn't make it on Mon or Tue. Answers from Raman and me. No further traffic so far. So not known whether it's to be thursday, mon, or tues.
15:53:08 [ericP]
Topic: HCLS demo
15:53:19 [ericP]
alanr: weekend project is to prepare that presentation
15:54:12 [ericP]
Topic: f2f Goals
15:54:39 [ericP]
vipul: i want to buy in and push the use case all the way to PoC
15:54:56 [ericP]
alanr: might be difficult in a half day
15:55:12 [ericP]
... getting folks interested in talking next week might be good enough
15:55:20 [ericP]
... pushing may result in nodding agreement
15:56:08 [ericP]
eneumann: anyone want to get together early on thu? or shall we wait 'till after lunch...
15:56:29 [ericP]
alanr: AC meeting is that AM. eneumann, alanr, ericP, Susie likely to be at AC
15:56:30 [jar]
busy until noon, available for lunch
15:56:40 [ericP]
... could meet for b'fast
15:57:07 [alanr]
jar @ AC too, for SC
15:57:19 [ericP]
s/Susie likely/Susie, Vipul likely/
15:57:26 [ericP]
ADJOURNED
15:57:30 [alanr]
bye
15:57:33 [ericP]
RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:57:33 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/11/01-hcls-minutes.html ericP
15:57:34 [Zakim]
-tnbhat
15:57:35 [mscottm]
thanks bye
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-Susie_Stephens
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-Vipul_Kashyap
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-Tanya_Hongsermeier
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-Jonathan_Rees
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-Alan
15:57:44 [ericP]
RRSAgent, please make record world-visible
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-scottmarshall
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-Eric_Neumann
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-EricP
15:58:05 [eneumann]
ericP, do you want to edit the minutes?
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disconnecting the lone participant, matthiassamwald, in SW_HCLS()11:00AM
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SW_HCLS()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were tnbhat, Susie_Stephens, Jonathan_Rees, Alan, Eric_Neumann, Vipul_Kashyap, matthiassamwald, scottmarshall, EricP, Tanya_Hongsermeier
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