IRC log of BioRDF on 2007-10-29

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15:04:23 [RRSAgent]

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/10/29-BioRDF-irc

15:04:30 [matthiassamwald]

hello kei!

15:04:36 [ericP]

Zakim, who's here?

15:04:36 [Zakim]

sorry, ericP, I don't know what conference this is

15:04:37 [kei]

hello Matthias

15:04:39 [alanr]

zakim, who is on the call

15:04:42 [Zakim]

On IRC I see RRSAgent, kei, Zakim, matthiassamwald, alanr, Don, ericP

15:04:45 [ericP]

Zakim, this is BioRDF

15:04:46 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'who is on the call', alanr

15:04:50 [Zakim]

ok, ericP; that matches SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM

15:04:53 [ericP]

Zakim, who's here?

15:04:58 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Alan, Don_Doherty, Kei_Cheung, ??P19

15:05:06 [Zakim]

On IRC I see RRSAgent, kei, Zakim, matthiassamwald, alanr, Don, ericP

15:05:09 [alanr]

zakim, ??P19 is Matthias

15:05:14 [Zakim]

+Matthias; got it

15:05:59 [jar]

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15:06:00 [Zakim]

+??P26

15:06:21 [alanr]

zakim, ??p26 is daniel_rubin

15:06:21 [Zakim]

+daniel_rubin; got it

15:06:34 [alanr]

jonathan, you calling in?

15:06:46 [alanr]

zakim, who's here?

15:06:46 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Alan, Don_Doherty, Kei_Cheung, Matthias, daniel_rubin

15:06:48 [Zakim]

On IRC I see jar, RRSAgent, kei, Zakim, matthiassamwald, alanr, Don, ericP

15:07:32 [ericP]

alanr, i am discussing team plans for RDF for HTTP-backed concept identifiers on another telecon. do you mind if i am another 5 minutes late?

15:07:42 [alanr]

k

15:07:43 [Don]

Current SfN Poster: http://www.brainstage.com/poster_draft.png

15:07:45 [Zakim]

+ +1.781.643.aaaa

15:07:46 [ericP]

alanr, feel free to override. you have dibs here

15:07:52 [kei]

Don: give an update on the poster

15:07:54 [alanr]

ok

15:07:59 [jar]

i'm on phone now

15:08:04 [alanr]

anything you want to wait for eric?

15:08:38 [kei]

Don: Hopefully, this will be the last update.

15:08:50 [jar]

zakim, 781.643.aaaa is jar

15:08:50 [Zakim]

sorry, jar, I do not recognize a party named '781.643.aaaa'

15:08:57 [kei]

Matthias: screenshot can be made?

15:09:07 [alanr]

zakim, .aaaa is jar

15:09:07 [Zakim]

sorry, alanr, I do not recognize a party named '.aaaa'

15:09:08 [jar]

zakim, you and i don't understand one another

15:09:09 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'you and i don't understand one another', jar

15:09:33 [alanr]

zakim, who's here?

15:09:33 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Alan, Don_Doherty, Kei_Cheung, Matthias, daniel_rubin, +1.781.643.aaaa

15:09:35 [Zakim]

On IRC I see jar, RRSAgent, kei, Zakim, matthiassamwald, alanr, Don, ericP

15:09:48 [alanr]

zakim, +1.781.643.aaaa is jar

15:09:48 [Zakim]

+jar; got it

15:13:16 [alanr]

Can we add to credits: Tom Stambaugh, affiliation: Zeetix LLC

15:13:39 [kei]

Don: a query against 12 datasets. It seems to be a good number of datasets. Neuroscientists are interested in finding genes involved in signal transduction in pyramidal neuron. Go into pubmed articles. Triples in KB. Pattern matching shown in the Triple graph. Data flow diagram. Blue boxes are static db's, green circles are process (not a UML model). Properties (instead of predicates) are used for consistency sake. Use aliases for URI's. Most importantly, the

15:15:20 [kei]

Alan: helpful to send a link to PDF even though it's big.

15:16:37 [kei]

Kei: It's a good poster show how different modules are related and integrated with each other.

15:17:01 [kei]

Alan: the higher resolution the better.

15:17:46 [ericP]

Zakim, please dial ericP-cw

15:17:46 [Zakim]

ok, ericP; the call is being made

15:17:48 [Zakim]

+EricP.a

15:17:48 [Zakim]

-EricP.a

15:17:56 [ericP]

Zakim, please dial ericP-cw

15:17:56 [Zakim]

ok, ericP; the call is being made

15:17:58 [Zakim]

+EricP

15:18:17 [kei]

Alan: Tom Stambaugh. Pointer to google map demo. may want to add him to the credit.

15:18:20 [Don]

Current SfN Poster: http://www.brainstage.com/poster_draft.png

15:18:58 [kei]

Don: will leave for the neuroscience meeting on Saturday.

15:19:32 [kei]

alan: Jonathan, integration of notes?

15:19:50 [Zakim]

-daniel_rubin

15:20:57 [kei]

Jonathan: almost ready. Thurs or HCLS conference (or shortly after) send out the email as a homework for f2f. At f2f meeting, we will discuss more. After the meeting, the notes will be put up on the w3c site for formal distribution.

15:21:28 [ericP]

Don, we may need to put this picture on the web and send a pointer to public-semweb-lifesci (maximum attachment size). Give me a call (+1.617.599.3509) if there are problems.

15:22:38 [kei]

Jonathan: http vs lsid comparison was made. stay neutral in the http vs. lsid debate.

15:23:40 [ericP]

q+ to say he will push for a more restrictive recommendation

15:24:01 [kei]

alan: not force to use an extra piece of software to dereference the object. people should give resolver's space. Other people are welcome to give their suggestions/opinions.

15:24:12 [kei]

EricP: Is it a recommendation?

15:24:33 [kei]

Jonathan: not a protocol nor a recommendation.

15:24:56 [kei]

Alan: interaction is important.

15:26:09 [kei]

Jonathan: asked Matthias for a review earlier.

15:26:26 [kei]

Matthias: he hasn't made much progress.

15:27:11 [kei]

Alan: suggested that Matthias give some feedback by Thursday.

15:27:32 [kei]

Alan: Is EricP on the review team?

15:28:04 [kei]

Jonathan: people should look at the figure.

15:28:21 [kei]

Alan: give an update on KB extension.

15:28:56 [jar]

latest draft: http://sw.neurocommons.org/2007/uri-note/

15:29:16 [alanr]

owlin

15:29:19 [alanr]

owlim

15:29:26 [matthiassamwald]

http://www.ontotext.com/owlim/

15:29:38 [alanr]

http://www.ontotext.com/owlim/big/index.html

15:30:09 [kei]

Alan: send a note to OWLIM. follow up with them in terms of largescale reasoning. See if they can try the HCLS KB.

15:30:54 [kei]

Alan: Attended a bio-workshop. Potential there.

15:32:21 [kei]

Alan: NIF meeting. DB mediation system. Rel. DB's. Map fields/values to the system. The mapping specification file may be turned into D2RQ (federated databases). SenseLab conversion (Alan talked to Luis).

15:32:31 [kei]

Alan: anybody looking at clinical data?

15:32:49 [kei]

Alan: meeting update?

15:33:52 [kei]

Matthias: PDSP KI database was converted into OWL.

15:34:45 [ericP]

q+ to ask if saturday is definitely out

15:34:58 [kei]

Alan: Regarding meeting update, two 15 minutes demo/presentation from the share project.

15:35:36 [kei]

EricP: saturday meeting? update of the registration. getting room/meals.

15:37:17 [kei]

Jonathan: w3c budget? 10-12 people max. on Saturday. better to leave informal meaning that if there is a need to meet, people can meet at some restaurant.

15:38:28 [kei]

Eric: ISWC BOF. Japanese groups. They wanted to meet closer to home. Carole Goble may join.

15:39:03 [kei]

Alan: look out for triplestore technologies to see if they want to load up datasets.

15:40:11 [kei]

Alan: www2008, a proposal for a workshop. also, a proposal for tutorial is being prepared. Teach contents and technologies. Susie, Alan, EricP, ..... will be involved. The proposal is due Nov. 1.

15:40:44 [kei]

Alan: BioIT World. A workshop is being organized there.

15:41:48 [Zakim]

-Matthias

15:42:00 [ericP]

RRSAgent, please draft minutes

15:42:00 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/29-BioRDF-minutes.html ericP

15:42:07 [ericP]

RRSAgent, please make log world-visible

15:42:50 [Zakim]

-Kei_Cheung

15:43:00 [Zakim]

-Don_Doherty

15:48:35 [Zakim]

+??P6

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15:56:04 [dbooth]

rrsagent, where am i?

15:56:04 [RRSAgent]

See http://www.w3.org/2007/10/29-BioRDF-irc#T15-56-04

15:56:44 [Zakim]

-??P6

16:06:55 [Zakim]

-Alan

16:06:57 [Zakim]

-jar

16:07:22 [Zakim]

-EricP

16:07:22 [ericP]

Zakim, please disconnect ericP

16:07:23 [Zakim]

SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM has ended

16:07:25 [Zakim]

Attendees were Alan, Don_Doherty, Kei_Cheung, Matthias, daniel_rubin, jar, EricP.a, EricP

16:07:26 [Zakim]

sorry, ericP, I don't know what conference this is