IRC log of webcgm on 2007-10-25

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15:04:46 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/10/25-webcgm-irc
15:05:15 [lofton]
zakim, who is here
15:05:15 [Zakim]
lofton, you need to end that query with '?'
15:05:25 [lofton]
zakim, who is here?
15:05:25 [Zakim]
sorry, lofton, I don't know what conference this is
15:05:27 [Zakim]
On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, lofton, trackbot-ng
15:05:42 [lofton]
zakim, this is webcgm teleconference
15:05:42 [Zakim]
sorry, lofton, I do not see a conference named 'webcgm teleconference' in progress or scheduled at this time
15:06:24 [lofton]
zakim, this is webcgm
15:06:24 [Zakim]
ok, lofton; that matches GA_WebCGM()11:00AM
15:06:35 [lofton]
zakim who is here?
15:06:44 [lofton]
zakim, who is here?
15:06:44 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Lofton_Henderson, BenoitB, ??P16
15:06:45 [Zakim]
On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, lofton, trackbot-ng
15:07:03 [Stuart]
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15:07:26 [lofton]
zakim, ??P16 is Dave&Stuart
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+Dave&Stuart; got it
15:08:00 [lofton]
zakim help
15:08:06 [lofton]
zakim, help
15:08:06 [Zakim]
Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help.
15:08:08 [Zakim]
Some of the commands I know are:
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xxx is yyy - establish yyy as the name of unknown party xxx
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if yyy is 'me' or 'I', your nick is substituted
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xxx may be yyy - establish yyy as possibly the name of unknown party xxx
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I am xxx - establish your nick as the name of unknown party xxx
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xxx holds yyy [, zzz ...] - establish xxx as a group name and yyy, etc. as participants within that group
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xxx also holds yyy - add yyy to the list of participants in group xxx
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who's here? - lists the participants on the phone
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who's muted? - lists the participants who are muted
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mute xxx - mutes party xxx (like pressing 61#)
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unmute xxx - reverses the effect of "mute" and of 61#
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is xxx here? - reports whether a party named like xxx is present
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list conferences - reports the active conferences
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this is xxx - associates this channel with conference xxx
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excuse us - disconnects from the irc channel
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I last learned something new on $Date: 2007/03/29 01:28:43 $
15:08:59 [lofton]
zakim, ??P16 holds dave, stuart
15:08:59 [Zakim]
sorry, lofton, I do not recognize a party named '??P16'
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zakim, Dave&Stuart holds dave, stuart
15:09:25 [Zakim]
+dave, stuart; got it
15:09:55 [lofton]
zakim, who is here?
15:09:57 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Lofton_Henderson, BenoitB, Dave&Stuart
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Dave&Stuart has dave, stuart
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On IRC I see Stuart, RRSAgent, Zakim, lofton, trackbot-ng
15:11:58 [lofton]
chair: lofton
15:12:39 [lofton]
agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2007Oct/0037.html
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15:18:31 [thierry]
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+Thierry
15:19:50 [bbezaire]
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15:20:19 [lofton]
scribe: bbezaire
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scribenick: benoit
15:21:18 [lofton]
agenda item: roll call
15:21:28 [lofton]
regrets: dieter
15:21:40 [lofton]
zakim, who is here?
15:21:41 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Lofton_Henderson, BenoitB, Dave&Stuart, Thierry
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Dave&Stuart has dave, stuart
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On IRC I see bbezaire, thierry, davec, Stuart, RRSAgent, Zakim, lofton, trackbot-ng
15:21:52 [Stuart]
I think agenda items are done with topic:
15:22:03 [lofton]
s/agenda item/topic/
15:22:13 [lofton]
topic: routine business
15:22:16 [lofton]
none.
15:22:35 [lofton]
topic: end of charter
15:23:09 [bbezaire]
LH: Thierry sent us a draft charter
15:23:21 [bbezaire]
LH: I have a few comments/questions
15:25:16 [bbezaire]
LH: I think it would be a good idea to say in the charter that we expect this to be a relatively short project
15:25:27 [bbezaire]
DC: yes I think so.
15:25:49 [bbezaire]
BB: what do we gain by saying that?
15:27:17 [bbezaire]
LH: I think it will help make sure the project won't be 2 or 3 years long.
15:28:57 [bbezaire]
TM: I think it would be a good idea, and we should consider splitting requirements for a fast track WebCGM and a longer 3.0 specification
15:30:25 [bbezaire]
TM: a one year project is agressive, it means Last Call comments in July
15:34:46 [bbezaire]
BB: Since the work is shared between two WGs, it gives us less control over the time period.
15:42:18 [bbezaire]
TM: the reason I have two drafts is because the W3C ask us to publish every 3 months
15:42:55 [bbezaire]
LH: the problem with that is the coordination between the two groups
15:45:47 [Ben]
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scribenick: Ben
15:50:10 [Ben]
BB: I think the charter if fine as it is
15:51:37 [Ben]
LH: public-webcgm@w3.org is the wrong list for the group
15:53:10 [Ben]
LH: under mission and scope... it could be renamed Background
15:53:44 [Ben]
SG: I think renaming would be good.
15:54:13 [Ben]
LH: Requirements could be renamed to Mission and Scope
15:54:19 [Ben]
TM: ok
16:02:04 [Ben]
LH: About Relationship to other groups... these are mostly based for 2.0 work. all may not be relevant for 2.1
16:03:50 [Stuart]
I need to hang up now. My other meeting is starting
16:03:54 [Ben]
LH: Is there any way that other groups can be restricted to comment on the delta only
16:07:34 [Ben]
TM: we could add a general statement that applies to all the group, we would like feedback on the new 2.1 features, etc..
16:09:41 [Ben]
action: Lofton to propose changes to Relationship to other forums
16:09:41 [trackbot-ng]
Created ACTION-55 - Propose changes to Relationship to other forums [on Lofton Henderson - due 2007-11-01].
16:10:11 [Ben]
action: Dave to correct any links to Forums outside W3C
16:10:11 [trackbot-ng]
Created ACTION-56 - Correct any links to Forums outside W3C [on David Cruikshank - due 2007-11-01].
16:10:41 [Ben]
LH: next meeting should be in two weeks.
16:11:02 [Ben]
LH: lets try to have a new draft by next week.
16:14:25 [lofton]
rrsagent, draft minutes
16:14:26 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/25-webcgm-minutes.html lofton
16:15:22 [Stuart]
bye
16:15:38 [Zakim]
-Dave&Stuart
16:15:46 [Ben]
adjourn
16:15:56 [Zakim]
-BenoitB
16:18:55 [Ben]
rrsagent, bye
16:19:43 [Ben]
rrsagent, bookmark
16:19:43 [RRSAgent]
See http://www.w3.org/2007/10/25-webcgm-irc#T16-19-43
16:26:16 [Ben]
rrsagent, make public
16:26:16 [RRSAgent]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'make public', Ben. Try /msg RRSAgent help
16:27:53 [Ben]
rrsagent, make logs public-visible
16:28:00 [Ben]
rrsagent, bye
16:28:00 [RRSAgent]
I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/25-webcgm-actions.rdf :
16:28:00 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Lofton to propose changes to Relationship to other forums [1]
16:28:00 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/25-webcgm-irc#T16-09-41
16:28:00 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Dave to correct any links to Forums outside W3C [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/25-webcgm-irc#T16-10-11