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15:03:22 <Zakim> + +46.4.63.3.aaaa
15:03:24 <vipul> Zakim, who's on the call?
15:03:29 <alanruttenberg> hello
15:03:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see Vipul_Kashyap, Kerstin_Forsberg, Sean_Martin, Alan_Ruttenberg, +46.4.63.3.aaaa
15:03:51 <vipul> Zakim, who's on the line?
15:03:58 <Zakim> + +1.512.323.aabb
15:04:18 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, vipul.
15:04:27 <vipul> Zakim, aaaa is Bo.Anderssen
15:04:32 <Zakim> + +1.801.442.aacc
15:04:42 <Zakim> +Bo.Anderssen; got it
15:04:46 <vipul> Zakim, aabb is Bron_Kissler
15:05:03 <vipul> Zakim, aacc is Stan_and_Tom
15:05:09 <alanruttenberg> invite rrsagent
15:05:09 <Zakim> +Bron_Kissler; got it
15:05:14 <Zakim> +Stan_and_Tom; got it
15:05:24 <vipul> rrsagent, make logs world-visible
15:05:45 <vipul> Zakim, who's on?
15:05:45 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, vipul.
15:05:45 <alanruttenberg> zakim, who is on the call
15:05:47 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the call', alanruttenberg
15:05:52 <alanruttenberg> zakim, who's here?
15:06:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see Vipul_Kashyap, Kerstin_Forsberg, Sean_Martin, Alan_Ruttenberg, Bo.Anderssen, Bron_Kissler, Stan_and_Tom
15:06:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see alanruttenberg, RRSAgent, Zakim, vipul, jar286, ericP
15:07:53 <vipul> Onboading Process by Alan
15:08:03 <vipul> Tom: What the semantic web is and is not?
15:08:10 <vipul> Tom: Technology, content and people issues
15:08:40 <vipul> Tom: How you might represent information models/terminology models in the Semantic Web
15:08:51 <Zakim> +Dan_Corwin
15:08:54 <vipul> Tom: Classic divide between Information and Terminology Models
15:09:06 <vipul> Tom: Semantic Web as a means for harmonizing the divide
15:10:18 <vipul> Tom: Domain models
15:11:05 <vipul> Alan: KR work, BioPax - interoperability format for biology
15:11:21 <vipul> Alan: Confusion between data types fields as opposed to the domain
15:11:32 <vipul> Alan: name of the protein...
15:11:51 <vipul> Alan: vs the semantics of proteins
15:12:12 <vipul> Alan: definitions of things in the real world
15:12:33 <vipul> Alan: Always taking about thing in the real world
15:12:52 <vipul> Alan: Information fields about the things in the database in the real world
15:13:11 <vipul> Alan: Tools of the semantic web help us express these things
15:13:19 <vipul> Alan: Shared and communicated with others
15:13:30 <vipul> Alan: Important to get good definitions
15:13:41 <vipul> Alan: Externalized definitions
15:17:21 <vipul> Alan: Ontology for Biomedical Investigations: Principles of "good construction"
15:22:24 <vipul> Stan: Terminologies are representing global truth
15:22:43 <vipul> Stan: Implementation -- identifying the subsets of what is required
15:23:06 <vipul> Stan: Things put in a form that are constrained
15:29:17 <vipul> Bron: There is a confusion between terminologies and ontologies
15:31:29 <vipul> Bron: CDISC is working on the CDASH initiative
15:41:36 <vipul> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/OntologyTaskForce/BIONTDSEDCM
15:53:10 <vipul> ACTION: Examples of filling spreadsheet
16:00:29 <vipul> Stan: Any terminology is 85% complete
16:00:48 <vipul> Stan: Incompleteness in Snomed
16:01:39 <vipul> Stan: Space between operational systems and terminological systems
16:01:58 <vipul> Stan: LOINC 1-1 map 
16:01:58 <vipul> Stan: LOINC 1-1 map 
16:02:10 <vipul> Stan: Redundant concept for INR in LOINC
16:02:24 <vipul> Stan: Came out with a version that deprecated the concpet
16:02:35 <vipul> Stan: Using the deprecated conceps
16:02:59 <vipul> Stan: The system stopped work
16:05:50 <Zakim> -Vipul_Kashyap
16:05:51 <Zakim> -Bo.Anderssen
16:05:52 <Zakim> -Alan_Ruttenberg
16:05:53 <Zakim> -Kerstin_Forsberg
16:05:54 <Zakim> -Sean_Martin
16:05:54 <Zakim> -Stan_and_Tom
16:05:56 <Zakim> -Bron_Kissler
16:05:58 <Zakim> SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM has ended
16:06:00 <Zakim> Attendees were Vipul_Kashyap, Kerstin_Forsberg, Sean_Martin, Alan_Ruttenberg, +46.4.63.3.aaaa, +1.512.323.aabb, +1.801.442.aacc, Bo.Anderssen, Bron_Kissler, Stan_and_Tom,
16:06:02 <Zakim> ... Dan_Corwin
16:22:24 <vipul> rrsagent, make minutes
16:22:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/23-hcls-minutes.html vipul
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