16:47:19 RRSAgent has joined #ua 16:47:19 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-ua-irc 16:47:33 rrsagent, set logs public 16:47:44 scribe: JR 16:48:04 zakim, this will be wai-u 16:48:04 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, AllanJ 16:48:16 zakim, this will be wai_u 16:48:16 ok, AllanJ; I see WAI_UAWG()1:00PM scheduled to start in 12 minutes 16:48:52 meeting: User Agent Teleconference 16:49:02 Chair: Jim Allan 16:49:28 JR has joined #ua 16:50:23 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007OctDec/0012.html 16:57:30 WAI_UAWG()1:00PM has now started 16:57:36 +AllanJ 16:58:40 +??P6 16:59:11 zakim, ??P6 is JR 16:59:11 +JR; got it 17:00:45 +[IBM] 17:01:02 zakim, [IBM] is really cklaws 17:01:02 +cklaws; got it 17:01:20 cklaws has joined #ua 17:10:25 Possible joint meeting time with PFWG at plenary. Al and Jim may meet next week to set agenda 17:12:59 JR: Reads through registered participants and observers (http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2007/registrants#ua) 17:13:47 JA: Speaking with Al Gilman a lot 17:15:56 CL: There is some question about how ARIA roles will be exposed by IE 17:16:33 CL: Exposing through DOM, and screen readers don't want to have to go to DOMs when they could go to some more common accessibility API 17:17:49 CL: Rich also recommended Anne van... 17:18:01 CL: For the UAWG group. 17:18:37 Anne van Kesteren 17:19:00 Action JA: Follow up with Anne van Kesteren 17:20:31 JA: We already talk about APIs... 17:20:42 CL: Right and we talk about them in are req doc 17:21:00 CL: Still need Apple/Safari person 17:21:07 JA: Still looking into this 17:21:22 CL: Opera good because they are working on ARIA 17:22:02 JA: Al also interested in browser vs. AT and author's role 17:22:23 JA: Only certain amount of repair is possible 17:22:52 CL: In ARIA, Javascript injects stuff into HTML and handles keyboard nav. 17:23:14 JA: Another thought - keyboard conflicts involved. 17:24:09 CL: UA resolves conflicts for keys in markup, but can't with keys in Javascript. 17:25:22 JA: who's grabbing keys etc. 17:26:16 CL: Also still having probs in dojo dealing with high contrast in IE 17:27:21 CL: Firefox has default font size, but IE not 17:27:37 JA: IE uses default system size as "medium" 17:28:17 CL: Zoom style for IE not respected by Firefox 17:29:01 Topic: Requirements doc 17:29:18 JA: We are very close on the UAAG 2.0 requirments document 17:29:38 JA: Next thing is charter I guess 17:30:22 JR: Plus getting internal draft going 17:30:29 Topi: Action items 17:30:33 Topic: Action items 17:30:47 JA: Did CSUN paper, JR's thing done 17:30:56 Topic: Agenda for the Plenary 17:31:21 JA: We seem to do lots of good work just marching through. 17:31:34 JA: So we could march through internal draft 17:32:13 JA: Thought we had good issues generated 17:33:28 JR: Maybe try and finish GL3 and 4 on the list an then start on 5 at the F2F. 17:33:40 JA: OK - we have just 2 more calls before the F2F 17:34:12 JA: Will set out homework assignments for next call 17:39:28 topic: 3.4 Allow configuration not to execute any executable content (e.g., scripts and applets). 17:41:33 Proposal: Allow configuration not to execute any executable content (e.g., scripts, plugs-ins and applets). 17:42:07 JR: allow user control overthe rendering environment, and get alternative content 17:42:45 CL: but if user can't turn off plugin then can not get alternative content 17:43:25 CL: turn off plug-in just like turn off scripts. 17:44:39 CL: alternative content, inside content is in the DOM... 17:46:57 UA could expose alternative content in the viewport, expose to accessibility API for AT 17:47:25 CL: this is related to 2.3 render conditional content. 17:48:17 JR: stuff is renderened and other stuff is executed. we are concerned with execution 17:49:52 JR: plugins are rendering engines outside of the browser 17:50:24 ...UA cannot render that content natively and hads off rendering to plugin 17:50:42 CL core UA vs player/plugin 17:52:24 JR: Allow configuration not to execute any executable content (e.g., scripts, objects, and applets). 17:58:52 -cklaws 17:58:55 -JR 17:59:51 RRSAgent, make minutes 17:59:51 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-ua-minutes.html JR 17:59:57 RRSAgent, set logs public 18:00:03 Zakim, bye 18:00:03 leaving. As of this point the attendees were AllanJ, JR, cklaws 18:00:03 Zakim has left #ua 18:00:08 RRSAgent, bye 18:00:08 I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-ua-actions.rdf : 18:00:08 ACTION: JA to Follow up with Anne van Kesteren [1] 18:00:08 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-ua-irc#T17-19-00