IRC log of xmlprotocol on 2007-10-10

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rrsagent, make log member

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zakim, this will be xmlp

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ok, cferris; I see WS_XMLP()3:00PM scheduled to start in 19 minutes

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WS_XMLP()3:00PM has now started

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+Chris_Ferris

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Topic: agenda - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-protocol-wg/2007Oct/0000.html

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+Jonathan_Marsh

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+Yves

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Present: Chris, Yves, Jonathan, Anish

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scribe: cferris

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topic: approval of minutes

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minutes from 9/12 approved as posted

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topic: administrative

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deferred

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topic: action items

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[DONE] ACTION: Chris to create issue from Mark's email and close with no action

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[DONE] ACTION: Chris to follow-up with Yves to make [publication] happen next week

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[PENDING] ACTION: Chris to upload new implementation page.

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topic: MTOM Policy LC issues

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-dist-app/2007Oct/0005.html

19:13:49 [cferris]

Fabian proposes to delete the 3rd paragraph and add the fourth in his change proposal

19:15:28 [Zakim]

+Anish

19:15:32 [cferris]

jonathan: not sure that is quite right

19:16:07 [cferris]

chris: what if we removed "in the absence of such an indicator"?

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jonathan: thinking...

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jonathan: looking at 4506

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the last sentence in the issue resolution was: "To ensure that a response message is serialized as application/xop+xml a client

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can send an application/xop+xml request message."

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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4506

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chris: looks like cut-n-paste error

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jonathan: yes, looks that way

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... just add "To " to the 3rd paragraph

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chris: all agree to adopt original resolution and add word "To"?

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jonathan: still slightly lost, think adding "To" is right

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unanimous

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RESOLUTION: close issue 5173 by adding "To" to the garbled sentence and move to 4th paragraph as in the original issue resolution for 4506

19:23:30 [Jonathan]

OK followed all the links - don't see anything that modifies the "to".

19:23:30 [cferris]

rrsagent, where am i?

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See http://www.w3.org/2007/10/10-xmlprotocol-irc#T19-23-30-1

19:24:14 [cferris]

ACTION: Chris to send response to Fabian with WG's resolution

19:26:33 [cferris]

RESOLUTION: agree that citations should be consistent and that we need to recheck all the links to ensure that they are all current

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rrsagent, where am i?

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See http://www.w3.org/2007/10/10-xmlprotocol-irc#T19-26-39

19:26:58 [cferris]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2007Sep/0000.html

19:26:58 [Jonathan]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2007Sep/0000.html

19:28:13 [cferris]

anish: can we update homepage to link to bugzilla?

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yves: sure, I updated but will check

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ACTION: Chris to respond to Mohamed re: 5174

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chris: next issue 5175

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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5175

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jonathan: looks good to me

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chris: agrees

19:31:12 [cferris]

jonathan: may be overkill to include references to multipart/related and XOP

19:33:08 [Yves]

side note: resolution of Fabian's issue is in the edcopy (and edcopy updated.

19:33:14 [cferris]

jonathan: replace "using" with ...

19:34:59 [cferris]

chris: here's what sect 1 says now:

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This specification describes a domain-specific policy assertion for the SOAP Message Transmission Optimization Mechanism W3C Recommentation [MTOM] that can be specified within a policy alternative as defined in Web Services Policy 1.5 - Framework [WS-Policy]. For backwards compatibility, the policy assertion can also be used in conjunction with the SOAP 1.1 Binding for MTOM 1.0 [MTOMS11] Member Submission.

19:36:04 [cferris]

anish: he is adding second sentence

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jonathan: let's accept what he has suggested

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anish: what does change is whether section 4 is implied by the assertion or not

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... sect 4 is about http/soap features

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... think it says how soap/http binding deals with the feature

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chris: in abstract only references section 3

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anish: if I have this on a binding that is soap/http, am I required to do what section 4 sez?

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... and if I put it on a non-soap/http binding, what does it mean

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chris: get rid of section reference altogether?

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anish: if we want this to be used for other bindings...

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jonathan: which we do

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anish: for intro, what ram proposes is okay

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jonathan: good with ram's proposal

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RESOLUTION: issue 5175 closed with proposal from Ram as described in issue

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rrsagent, where am i?

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See http://www.w3.org/2007/10/10-xmlprotocol-irc#T19-57-14

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ACTION: Chris to respond to Ram re issue resolution for 5175

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ACTION: Chris to open new issue related to discussion above for reinforcing section 3.3 as specific to binding protocol details

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ACTION: Anish to draft proposal for new issue against section 3.3

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topic: review of ws-policy primer and guidelines

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no takers

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ACTION: Chris to reply to Paul regarding no action/comments from XMLP WG on primer and guidelines

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-Anish

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-Jonathan_Marsh

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-Chris_Ferris

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-Yves

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WS_XMLP()3:00PM has ended

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call next week

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Attendees were Chris_Ferris, Jonathan_Marsh, Yves, Anish

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NO call the following week due to ws-i f2f and anish in tokyo

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/10-xmlprotocol-minutes.html anish

20:02:14 [cferris]

rrsagent, please draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/10-xmlprotocol-minutes.html cferris

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adjourned

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