20:05:30 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 20:05:30 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/10/04-wai-wcag-irc 20:05:32 zakim, ??P3 is Roberto_Scano 20:05:32 +Roberto_Scano; got it 20:05:38 zakim, I am Roberto_Scano 20:05:38 ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano 20:05:38 RRSAgent, do not start a new log 20:05:42 RRSAgent, make log world 20:05:59 Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon 20:06:07 happy birthday Michaeeeellll 20:06:13 David has joined #wai-wcag 20:06:19 David should make a song... 20:06:30 with guitar :) 20:06:36 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007OctDec/0007.html 20:06:45 with captions :) 20:06:53 Chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:06:58 ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly 20:07:06 agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates 20:07:16 agenda+ Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007, including user feedback 20:07:16 from David and Sofia 20:07:30 agenda+ Miscellenous Proposals for 2 0ct 2007 20:07:38 +[IPcaller] 20:07:39 agenda+ Conformance level survey for 02 Oct 2007 20:07:46 agenda+ Miscellaneous Issues for 04 Oct 2007 20:07:52 agenda? 20:07:57 zakim, [IPcall is Bengt_Farre 20:08:00 +Bengt_Farre; got it 20:08:01 zakim, take up agendum 1 20:08:01 agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Ben] 20:08:33 Topic: Announcements, Questions, and Updates 20:08:55 query f2f ? 20:09:11 q+ 20:09:18 +[Microsoft] 20:09:25 ack Sofia 20:10:24 meeting: WCAG 20:10:33 chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:10:41 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007OctDec/0007.html 20:10:58 q+ 20:11:43 ack Ben 20:12:20 announcement 20:12:26 ack Ben 20:12:29 ack Bruce 20:12:53 zakim, Microsoft is Cynthia_Shelly 20:12:53 +Cynthia_Shelly; got it 20:13:51 today is the cinnamon roll day in sweden ;) 20:14:14 zakim, close this item 20:14:14 agendum 1 closed 20:14:15 I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 20:14:16 2. Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007, including user feedback [from Ben] 20:14:41 zakim, take up agendum 3 20:14:41 agendum 3. "Miscellenous Proposals for 2 0ct 2007" taken up [from Ben] 20:15:14 Topic: Miscellaneous Proposals for 2 October 2007 20:16:42 TOpic: Issue 2222 "Non-Interference" "No Keyboard Trap" dependent on UA/plugin as well 20:21:51 Resolution: Accept Issue 2222 as amended 20:22:28 Topic: Issue 2231 Is 2.4.9 testable? 20:23:38 q+ 20:23:52 ack Cynthia 20:25:13 ack Loretta 20:26:04 ack l 20:26:13 ack Cynthia 20:27:47 ack Sean 20:30:25 Action: Cynthia, Sean and David to redraft response to issue 2231 20:31:22 zakim, close this item 20:31:22 agendum 3 closed 20:31:23 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 20:31:24 2. Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007, including user feedback [from Ben] 20:31:37 Topic: Conformance Level Survey for 2 October 2007 20:32:03 zakim, take up agendum 4 20:32:03 agendum 4. "Conformance level survey for 02 Oct 2007" taken up [from Ben] 20:32:33 Topic: Issue 2036 conformance levels 20:32:43 Resolution: Accept issue 2036 as proposed 20:33:22 TOpic: issue 1973 SC 1.4.3 at Level AA allows sites that are unreadable for many 20:35:52 ack Cynthia 20:37:30 +[IBM] 20:38:11 Andi has joined #wai-wcag 20:38:23 zakim, who is on the phone? 20:38:24 On the phone I see Bruce_Bailey, Roberto_Ellero, Sofia_Celic, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Sean_Hayes, Alex_Li, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Ben_Caldwell, Tim_Boland, Cooper, David_MacDonald, 20:38:27 ... Roberto_Scano (muted), Bengt_Farre, Cynthia_Shelly, Andi_Snow-Weaver 20:40:53 Action: Loretta to research tools for users relative to color issues 20:45:07 Resolution: Accept response to Issue 1973 as amended 20:45:31 Topic: Issue 2103: contrast ratio SC level 20:48:36 Resolution: Accept response to issue 2103 as amended 20:48:54 Topic: Issue 2121: SC 3.2.3 should be Level A 20:50:00 ack Cynthia 20:53:12 Resolution: accept response to issue 2121, subject to action by Sean to try to add example 20:53:32 Action: Sean to try to add example re: response to issue 2121 20:53:49 Topic: Issue 2244: "Interruptions" may warrant a higher priority 20:54:03 Resolution: Accept response to issue 2244 as proposed 20:56:06 Topic: Issue 2328: Move SC 2.2.6 to Level A 21:07:03 Resolution: Accept response to issue 2328 as amended 21:07:24 Topic: Issue 1943: Should this be applied to everything that qualifies as a "Web page"? 21:12:48 ack Bruce 21:14:15 zakim, Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden 21:14:15 +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it 21:16:11 q+ to say we keep getting confused on this topic, sounds like clarification needed in Understanidng 21:17:46 q+ to say this feels like a tangent 21:18:04 ack Michael 21:18:04 MichaelC, you wanted to say we keep getting confused on this topic, sounds like clarification needed in Understanidng and to say this feels like a tangent 21:21:03 Gregg has joined #wai-wcag 21:21:41 q? 21:28:44 rscano has left #wai-wcag 21:28:51 -Roberto_Scano 21:34:06 Resolution: accept response to issue 1943 as proposed 21:34:27 TOpic: Issue 2344: LC-1054: change level - most web pages are part of a set of web pages 21:34:44 Resolution: accept response to issue 2344 as proposed 21:35:12 Topic: Issue 2064: Level of 2.4.6 21:45:00 ack Cynthia 21:48:03 Resolution: accept response to issue 2064 as amended 21:48:23 Topic: Issues 2052, 2086: Should 2.4.9 be a AA requirement? 21:49:46 Resolution: leave issues 2052, 2086 open and tie them to issue 2231 action item 21:50:29 Topic: Issue 1969: Language changes should be Level A 21:53:48 ack Sean 21:57:00 ack Bruce 21:58:43 Resolution: defer discussion of issue 1969 pending resolution of issue 2069 21:59:16 Topic: Issue 2105: SC level for 3.1.3 21:59:33 Resolution: accept response to issue 2105 as proposed 22:00:36 Topic: Issues 2106, 2341: SC 3.1.4 should be Level A 22:02:58 -Bengt_Farre 22:03:14 bengt has left #wai-wcag 22:04:53 q+ 22:04:58 q+ 22:05:43 ack Andi 22:05:45 q+ 22:06:10 ack Ben 22:06:51 q+ 22:07:01 ack Loretta 22:07:46 ack David 22:08:14 q+ 22:08:28 ack Gregg 22:11:22 ack Cynthia 22:11:44 q+ 22:11:52 ack Gregg 22:13:18 ack Sean 22:15:03 q+ to say, "SC only requires first occurence" 22:15:35 q+ 22:15:48 ack Ben 22:15:48 Ben, you wanted to say, "SC only requires first occurence" 22:17:04 q+ 22:17:18 ack Loretta 22:17:39 ack Gregg 22:19:32 zakim, who's making noise? 22:19:42 David, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds 22:19:56 zakim, who's making noise? 22:20:06 David, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Alex_Li (71%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (5%), Cynthia_Shelly (65%) 22:21:28 q+ 22:21:29 zakim, mute Alex_Li 22:21:30 Alex_Li should now be muted 22:21:45 ack Andi 22:26:30 q+ 22:27:39 ack Andi 22:27:42 ack Katie 22:34:07 ack Katie 22:36:10 q+ 22:36:23 -Roberto_Ellero 22:36:35 ack Gregg 22:39:48 Action: Cynthia to write response justifying AAA 22:40:26 Resolution: keep issues 2106, 2341 open 22:40:51 Topic: Issue 2107: Increase SC for 3.3.4 22:42:28 Gregg has joined #wai-wcag 22:42:32 q+ 22:42:42 ack Gregg 22:43:51 Resolution: accept response to issue 2107 as amended 22:44:17 Topic: Issues 2078: Raise priority level of SC 3.3.3 and 3.3.6 22:44:56 Resolution: accept response to issue 2078 as amended 22:45:19 Topic: Issue 1952: Consider moving 3.2.3, 3.2.4, 3.3.3, 3.3.4 and 3.3.6 to Level A 22:45:37 Resolution: Accept response to issue 1952 as proposed 22:46:23 zakim, close this item 22:46:23 agendum 4 closed 22:46:24 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 22:46:26 2. Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007, including user feedback [from Ben] 22:46:27 zakim, take up agendum 2 22:46:27 agendum 2. "Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007, including user feedback" taken up [from Ben] 22:46:40 Topic: Link Purpose Proposals for September 2007 22:47:00 Topic: reports on user studies 22:52:16 ack Cynthia 22:53:11 q+ 22:54:16 ack Gregg 22:55:37 -Bruce_Bailey 22:59:46 q+ 22:59:55 ack Gregg 23:01:14 ack Cynthia 23:01:32 q+ 23:02:51 q+ 23:03:17 ack Gregg 23:03:21 ack Sofia 23:03:29 q- 23:04:11 Action: Loretta, Sofia, Gregg, David to explore link context proposal 23:08:07 -Andi_Snow-Weaver 23:08:09 -Tim_Boland 23:08:10 -David_MacDonald 23:08:11 -Cynthia_Shelly 23:08:12 -Cooper 23:08:13 -Sean_Hayes 23:08:15 -Sofia_Celic 23:08:17 -Ben_Caldwell 23:08:20 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 23:11:22 -Katie_Haritos-Shea 23:42:51 Ben has left #wai-wcag 23:58:48 -Alex_Li 23:58:49 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended 23:58:50 Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, [IPcaller], Roberto_Ellero, Sofia_Celic, +078750aaaa, Alex_Li, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Tim_Boland, Cooper, David_MacDonald, Roberto_Scano, Bengt_Farre, 23:58:53 ... 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