IRC log of wai-wcag on 2007-10-04
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/10/04-wai-wcag-irc
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- zakim, ??P3 is Roberto_Scano
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- +Roberto_Scano; got it
- 20:05:38 [rscano]
- zakim, I am Roberto_Scano
- 20:05:38 [Zakim]
- ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano
- 20:05:38 [Ben]
- RRSAgent, do not start a new log
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- RRSAgent, make log world
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- Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
- 20:06:07 [rscano]
- happy birthday Michaeeeellll
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- David should make a song...
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- with guitar :)
- 20:06:36 [Ben]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007OctDec/0007.html
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- with captions :)
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- Chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
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- agenda+ Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007, including user feedback
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- from David and Sofia
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- agenda+ Miscellenous Proposals for 2 0ct 2007
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- +[IPcaller]
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- agenda+ Conformance level survey for 02 Oct 2007
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- agenda+ Miscellaneous Issues for 04 Oct 2007
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- agenda?
- 20:07:57 [bengt]
- zakim, [IPcall is Bengt_Farre
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- +Bengt_Farre; got it
- 20:08:01 [Ben]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Ben]
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- Topic: Announcements, Questions, and Updates
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- query f2f ?
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- q+
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- +[Microsoft]
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- ack Sofia
- 20:10:24 [MichaelC]
- meeting: WCAG
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- chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
- 20:10:41 [MichaelC]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007OctDec/0007.html
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- q+
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- ack Ben
- 20:12:20 [bengt]
- announcement
- 20:12:26 [Loretta]
- ack Ben
- 20:12:29 [Tim]
- ack Bruce
- 20:12:53 [MichaelC]
- zakim, Microsoft is Cynthia_Shelly
- 20:12:53 [Zakim]
- +Cynthia_Shelly; got it
- 20:13:51 [bengt]
- today is the cinnamon roll day in sweden ;)
- 20:14:14 [Ben]
- zakim, close this item
- 20:14:14 [Zakim]
- agendum 1 closed
- 20:14:15 [Zakim]
- I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 20:14:16 [Zakim]
- 2. Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007, including user feedback [from Ben]
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- zakim, take up agendum 3
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- agendum 3. "Miscellenous Proposals for 2 0ct 2007" taken up [from Ben]
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- Topic: Miscellaneous Proposals for 2 October 2007
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- TOpic: Issue 2222 "Non-Interference" "No Keyboard Trap" dependent on UA/plugin as well
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- Resolution: Accept Issue 2222 as amended
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- Topic: Issue 2231 Is 2.4.9 testable?
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- q+
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- ack Cynthia
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- ack Loretta
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- ack l
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- ack Cynthia
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- ack Sean
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- Action: Cynthia, Sean and David to redraft response to issue 2231
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 3 closed
- 20:31:23 [Zakim]
- I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 20:31:24 [Zakim]
- 2. Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007, including user feedback [from Ben]
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- Topic: Conformance Level Survey for 2 October 2007
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- zakim, take up agendum 4
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- agendum 4. "Conformance level survey for 02 Oct 2007" taken up [from Ben]
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- Topic: Issue 2036 conformance levels
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- Resolution: Accept issue 2036 as proposed
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- TOpic: issue 1973 SC 1.4.3 at Level AA allows sites that are unreadable for many
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- ack Cynthia
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- +[IBM]
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- zakim, who is on the phone?
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- On the phone I see Bruce_Bailey, Roberto_Ellero, Sofia_Celic, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Sean_Hayes, Alex_Li, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Ben_Caldwell, Tim_Boland, Cooper, David_MacDonald,
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- ... Roberto_Scano (muted), Bengt_Farre, Cynthia_Shelly, Andi_Snow-Weaver
- 20:40:53 [Tim]
- Action: Loretta to research tools for users relative to color issues
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- Resolution: Accept response to Issue 1973 as amended
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- Topic: Issue 2103: contrast ratio SC level
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- Resolution: Accept response to issue 2103 as amended
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- Topic: Issue 2121: SC 3.2.3 should be Level A
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- ack Cynthia
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2121, subject to action by Sean to try to add example
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- Action: Sean to try to add example re: response to issue 2121
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- Topic: Issue 2244: "Interruptions" may warrant a higher priority
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- Resolution: Accept response to issue 2244 as proposed
- 20:56:06 [Tim]
- Topic: Issue 2328: Move SC 2.2.6 to Level A
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- Resolution: Accept response to issue 2328 as amended
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- Topic: Issue 1943: Should this be applied to everything that qualifies as a "Web page"?
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- ack Bruce
- 21:14:15 [Ben]
- zakim, Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
- 21:16:11 [MichaelC]
- q+ to say we keep getting confused on this topic, sounds like clarification needed in Understanidng
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- q+ to say this feels like a tangent
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- ack Michael
- 21:18:04 [Zakim]
- MichaelC, you wanted to say we keep getting confused on this topic, sounds like clarification needed in Understanidng and to say this feels like a tangent
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- q?
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- -Roberto_Scano
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 1943 as proposed
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- TOpic: Issue 2344: LC-1054: change level - most web pages are part of a set of web pages
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2344 as proposed
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- Topic: Issue 2064: Level of 2.4.6
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- ack Cynthia
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2064 as amended
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- Topic: Issues 2052, 2086: Should 2.4.9 be a AA requirement?
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- Resolution: leave issues 2052, 2086 open and tie them to issue 2231 action item
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- Topic: Issue 1969: Language changes should be Level A
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- ack Sean
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- ack Bruce
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- Resolution: defer discussion of issue 1969 pending resolution of issue 2069
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- Topic: Issue 2105: SC level for 3.1.3
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2105 as proposed
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- Topic: Issues 2106, 2341: SC 3.1.4 should be Level A
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- -Bengt_Farre
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- q+
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- q+
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- ack Andi
- 22:05:45 [Loretta]
- q+
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- ack Ben
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- q+
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- ack Loretta
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- ack David
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- q+
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- ack Gregg
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- ack Cynthia
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- q+
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- ack Gregg
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- ack Sean
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- q+ to say, "SC only requires first occurence"
- 22:15:35 [Loretta]
- q+
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- ack Ben
- 22:15:48 [Zakim]
- Ben, you wanted to say, "SC only requires first occurence"
- 22:17:04 [Gregg]
- q+
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- ack Loretta
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- ack Gregg
- 22:19:32 [David]
- zakim, who's making noise?
- 22:19:42 [Zakim]
- David, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
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- zakim, who's making noise?
- 22:20:06 [Zakim]
- David, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Alex_Li (71%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (5%), Cynthia_Shelly (65%)
- 22:21:28 [Andi]
- q+
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- zakim, mute Alex_Li
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- Alex_Li should now be muted
- 22:21:45 [Tim]
- ack Andi
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- q+
- 22:27:39 [Tim]
- ack Andi
- 22:27:42 [Tim]
- ack Katie
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- ack Katie
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- q+
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- -Roberto_Ellero
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- ack Gregg
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- Action: Cynthia to write response justifying AAA
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- Resolution: keep issues 2106, 2341 open
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- Topic: Issue 2107: Increase SC for 3.3.4
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- q+
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- ack Gregg
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2107 as amended
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- Topic: Issues 2078: Raise priority level of SC 3.3.3 and 3.3.6
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- Resolution: accept response to issue 2078 as amended
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- Topic: Issue 1952: Consider moving 3.2.3, 3.2.4, 3.3.3, 3.3.4 and 3.3.6 to Level A
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- Resolution: Accept response to issue 1952 as proposed
- 22:46:23 [Ben]
- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 4 closed
- 22:46:24 [Zakim]
- I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 22:46:26 [Zakim]
- 2. Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007, including user feedback [from Ben]
- 22:46:27 [Ben]
- zakim, take up agendum 2
- 22:46:27 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007, including user feedback" taken up [from Ben]
- 22:46:40 [Tim]
- Topic: Link Purpose Proposals for September 2007
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- Topic: reports on user studies
- 22:52:16 [Tim]
- ack Cynthia
- 22:53:11 [Gregg]
- q+
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- ack Gregg
- 22:55:37 [Zakim]
- -Bruce_Bailey
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- q+
- 22:59:55 [Tim]
- ack Gregg
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- ack Cynthia
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- q+
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- q+
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- ack Gregg
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- ack Sofia
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- q-
- 23:04:11 [Tim]
- Action: Loretta, Sofia, Gregg, David to explore link context proposal
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- -Andi_Snow-Weaver
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- -Tim_Boland
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- -David_MacDonald
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- -Cynthia_Shelly
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- -Cooper
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- -Sean_Hayes
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- -Sofia_Celic
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- -Ben_Caldwell
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- Ben has left #wai-wcag
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- -Alex_Li
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- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, [IPcaller], Roberto_Ellero, Sofia_Celic, +078750aaaa, Alex_Li, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Tim_Boland, Cooper, David_MacDonald, Roberto_Scano, Bengt_Farre,
- 23:58:53 [Zakim]
- ... Cynthia_Shelly, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Gregg_Vanderheiden