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20:00:22 <Christophe> zakim, what conferences
20:00:22 <Zakim> Christophe, you need to end that query with '?'
20:00:26 <Christophe> zakim, what conferences?
20:00:26 <Zakim> I see SW_RIF(f2f)8:00AM, XML_SMLWG()2:00PM, WAI_WCAG()3:00PM active
20:00:28 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are XML_QueryWG(ttf)3:00PM, WAI_EOWG(UMTF)2:00PM, XML_SMLWG(Editors)4:00PM
20:00:35 <Christophe> zakim, this will be wai_wcag
20:00:35 <Zakim> ok, Christophe, I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM already started
20:01:30 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:01:35 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:02:12 <Zakim> +[IBM]
20:02:13 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
20:02:18 <MichaelC> MichaelC has joined #wai-wcag
20:02:19 <Zakim> +??P8
20:02:21 <Zakim> + +44.114.288.aabb
20:02:27 <Zakim> +Cooper
20:02:28 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:02:30 <Christophe> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007JulSep/0179.html
20:02:46 <MichaelC> zakim, +1.617 is Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:02:46 <Zakim> sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named '+1.617'
20:02:50 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe
20:03:09 <Zakim> +Alex_Li
20:03:39 <Loretta> Sorry, Christophe.
20:03:48 <Christophe> Agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
20:03:56 <Christophe> Agenda+ Discussion of Metadata and proposals posted to list (GL)
20:03:57 <MichaelC> zakim, +1.240 is Bruce_Bailey
20:03:57 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey; got it
20:04:06 <Zakim> +??P19
20:04:12 <Christophe> Agenda+ Misc. Questions for 20 September 2007 Survey: http://tinyurl.com/2xaw8a
20:04:25 <Christophe> Agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 27 Sep 2007  Survey: http://tinyurl.com/3xjzaf
20:04:32 <Christophe> Agenda+ Link Purpose Proposals for Sept. 2007
20:04:34 <Zakim> +??P21
20:04:37 <Andi> Andi has joined #wai-wcag
20:04:40 <rscano> zakim, ??P21 is Roberto_Scano
20:04:40 <Zakim> +Roberto_Scano; got it
20:04:40 <Gregg> Gregg has joined #wai-wcag
20:04:41 <MichaelC> zakim, Gregg has Ben_Caldwell
20:04:41 <Zakim> +Ben_Caldwell; got it
20:04:43 <rellero__> how is passcode?
20:04:46 <rscano> zakim I am Roberto_Scano
20:04:53 <Andi> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:04:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see Liddy_Nevile, Bruce_Bailey, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, [Microsoft], [IBM], Tim_Boland, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Andy_Heath, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Cooper, +032163aaee,
20:04:55 <rscano> zakim, I am Roberto_Scano
20:04:55 <MichaelC> zakim, Microsoft is Cynthia_Shelly
20:04:57 <Zakim> ... Alex_Li, ??P19, Roberto_Scano
20:04:58 <Zakim> Gregg_Vanderheiden has Ben_Caldwell
20:05:00 <Zakim> ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano
20:05:02 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly; got it
20:05:12 <Andi> zakim, [IBM] is Andi_Snow-Weaver
20:05:12 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it
20:05:19 <Ben> Ben has joined #wai-wcag
20:05:26 <Zakim> + +078750aacc - is perhaps Sean_Hayes
20:05:53 <rellero__> 92241# is not valid, how is the passcode?
20:05:59 <Zakim> +Drew_LaHart
20:06:13 <Christophe> zakim, +032 is Christophe_Strobbe
20:06:13 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe; got it
20:06:19 <Ben> RRSAgent, make log world
20:06:20 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
20:06:41 <Drew> Drew has joined #wai-wcag
20:06:50 <MichaelC> zakim, Bruce is Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:06:50 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it
20:06:57 <Christophe> Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
20:07:25 <rellero__> 92241 is not valid
20:07:27 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P19 is Drew_LaHart
20:07:27 <Zakim> +Drew_LaHart; got it
20:07:34 <MichaelC> zakim, Katie is Bruce_Bailey
20:07:34 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey; got it
20:07:46 <MichaelC> zakim, Gregg is Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:07:46 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it
20:08:08 <MichaelC> zakim, Ben has left
20:08:08 <Zakim> sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named 'Ben'
20:08:08 <rellero__> tx
20:08:21 <MichaelC> zakim, Katie no longer has Ben
20:08:21 <Zakim> Ben was not listed in Katie_Haritos-Shea, MichaelC
20:08:22 <Zakim> -Ben; got it
20:08:26 <Gregg> q?
20:08:29 <Gregg> acj
20:08:33 <Gregg> ack k
20:08:35 <Gregg> ack g
20:08:49 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:08:55 <MichaelC> zakim, Drew_LaHart.a is Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:08:55 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
20:08:56 <Zakim> -Drew_LaHart
20:09:00 <bengt> zakim, [IPcaller is Bengt_Farre
20:09:00 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
20:09:00 <MichaelC> zakim, Gregg has Ben_Caldwell
20:09:01 <Zakim> +Ben_Caldwell; got it
20:09:08 <MichaelC> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:09:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see Liddy_Nevile, Bruce_Bailey, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Cynthia_Shelly, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Tim_Boland, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Andy_Heath, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Cooper,
20:09:11 <Zakim> ... Christophe_Strobbe, Alex_Li, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Roberto_Scano (muted), Sean_Hayes.a, David_MacDonald, Bengt_Farre
20:09:13 <Zakim> Katie_Haritos-Shea has Ben_Caldwell
20:09:14 <Zakim> Gregg_Vanderheiden has Ben_Caldwell
20:09:27 <Zakim> +??P3
20:09:32 <bengt> many bens
20:09:39 <rellero__> Zakim, ??P3 is Roberto_Ellero
20:09:39 <Zakim> +Roberto_Ellero; got it
20:09:50 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:10:07 <Christophe> Regrets: Sofia_Celic
20:10:15 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:10:35 <Christophe> Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:10:45 <Christophe> Scribe: Christophe
20:11:07 <Christophe> zakim, take up agendum 1
20:11:07 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Christophe]
20:13:12 <David> David has joined #wai-wcag
20:13:51 <Christophe> zakim, take up agendum 2
20:13:51 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Discussion of Metadata and proposals posted to list (GL)" taken up [from Christophe]
20:14:31 <Christophe> See list archives: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007JulSep/0180.html and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007JulSep/0181.html
20:22:28 <Drew> Drew has joined #wai-wcag
20:22:51 <Zakim> + +1.410.757.aadd
20:23:17 <marjohn> marjohn has joined #wai-WCAG
20:24:04 <Christophe> zakim, +1.140 is Drew_LaHart
20:24:04 <Zakim> sorry, Christophe, I do not recognize a party named '+1.140'
20:27:08 <David> q+
20:29:31 <Zakim> -Sean_Hayes.a
20:30:07 <Zakim> + +078750aaee - is perhaps Sean_Hayes
20:31:01 <Andi> ack d
20:31:06 <Drew> q-
20:32:10 <MichaelC> q- Drew
20:32:14 <MichaelC> q+ David
20:32:14 <Andi> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:32:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see Liddy_Nevile, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Cynthia_Shelly, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Tim_Boland, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Andy_Heath, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Cooper, Christophe_Strobbe,
20:32:19 <Zakim> ... Alex_Li, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Roberto_Scano (muted), David_MacDonald, Bengt_Farre, Roberto_Ellero, +1.240.855.aahh, Drew_LaHart, Sean_Hayes
20:32:21 <Zakim> Katie_Haritos-Shea has Ben_Caldwell
20:32:23 <Zakim> Gregg_Vanderheiden has Ben_Caldwell
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20:33:14 <MichaelC> zakim, Katie no longer has Ben_Caldwell
20:33:14 <Zakim> -Ben_Caldwell; got it
20:33:20 <Loretta> q?
20:33:28 <Loretta> q+ Liddy
20:34:48 <Gregg> ack d
20:34:58 <MichaelC> zakim, +1.240 is Bruce_Bailey
20:34:58 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey; got it
20:37:54 <Gregg> ack l
20:37:57 <bengt> http://www.inclusivelearning.ca/tile/
20:37:58 <Gregg> ack alex
20:43:07 <Loretta> q+ Liddy
20:43:45 <Loretta> ack c
20:45:54 <Gregg> ack l
20:46:16 <Gregg> q+
20:47:17 <Loretta> q+
20:47:38 <Loretta> ack a
20:48:20 <Loretta> q-
20:48:59 <rellero__> rellero__ has left #wai-wcag
20:50:58 <Loretta> q+
20:52:49 <Loretta> q+ AndyH
20:52:58 <Loretta> ack s
20:52:58 <Gregg> ack s
20:53:27 <Gregg> ack k
20:53:44 <Ben> q+
20:56:44 <Loretta> ack g
20:57:49 <Gregg> ack l
20:58:03 <Gregg> q+
21:00:04 <Gregg> ack a
21:00:18 <Gregg> ack alex
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21:01:03 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
21:02:29 <Zakim> +Alex_Li
21:05:00 <Gregg> ack b
21:05:49 <Loretta> q+
21:07:10 <Loretta> ack c
21:07:11 <David> q+
21:10:15 <rscano> rscano has left #wai-wcag
21:10:23 <Christophe> Resolution: go back and find advisory techniques re metadata
21:11:19 <Christophe> Resolution: look for and propose sufficient metadata techniques where there is support in the technologies
21:14:57 <Zakim> -Roberto_Scano
21:15:28 <Christophe> Resolution: commission a draft for "Understanding Metadata" and other notes for review by the WG
21:17:32 <David> q+
21:17:44 <Loretta> ack g
21:22:48 <Loretta> ack k
21:23:29 <Gregg> ack l
21:23:44 <Ben> q+ Liddy
21:24:23 <Loretta> ack d
21:25:09 <Loretta> ack l
21:28:01 <Zakim> -Liddy_Nevile
21:28:27 <Christophe> zakim, take up agendum 3
21:28:27 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Misc. Questions for 20 September 2007 Survey: http://tinyurl.com/2xaw8a" taken up [from Christophe]
21:28:32 <Zakim> -Andy_Heath
21:28:57 <David> zakim, who's making noise?
21:29:13 <Zakim> David, listening for 14 seconds I heard sound from the following: Katie_Haritos-Shea (3%), Tim_Boland (24%), Gregg_Vanderheiden (79%)
21:29:40 <David> Zakim, mute Tim_Boland
21:29:40 <Zakim> Tim_Boland should now be muted
21:29:41 <Christophe> Resolution: Issues 2158, 2082, 2210, 2063 accepted by unanimous consent
21:30:10 <Christophe> Topic: Issue 2003: Disabled elements should have a lower contrast ratio...
21:34:24 <Christophe> Action: Loretta to try to incorporate the 1.4.3 note into the provision
21:36:55 <Christophe> Resolution: Issue 2003 accepted as ammended.
21:37:39 <Christophe> Topic: Issue 2272
21:40:11 <Gregg> ack sean
21:41:27 <Gregg> ack c
21:42:01 <awk> brb
21:42:19 <Andi> q+
21:43:20 <Gregg> ack a
21:45:04 <Zakim> -Drew_LaHart
21:48:06 <Zakim> -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:48:39 <Christophe> Action: Alex to draft technique for Issue 2272.
21:48:56 <Christophe> Resolution: Issue 2272 accepted as ammended.
21:49:20 <Christophe> Topic: Issue 2290: extend alternative to text to audio-only or video-only
21:50:11 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
21:52:31 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:52:42 <Zakim> -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:53:11 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:58:45 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
22:00:02 <Christophe> Resolution: Issue 2290 accepted as ammended.
22:00:27 <Christophe> Topic: Issue 2162: readability formulas
22:02:33 <Christophe> action: Sean to look up authors of readability tools in MS products
22:03:23 <Christophe> Resolution: Issue 2162 accepted as ammended.
22:04:51 <Christophe> Topic: Issue 2175: Why "18 point or 14 point bold"?
22:09:36 <Christophe> Resolution: Issue 2175 accepted as ammended.
22:10:06 <Christophe> zakim, next agendum
22:10:06 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Christophe]
22:10:17 <Christophe> zakim, take up agendum 4
22:10:17 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Miscellaneous Proposals for 27 Sep 2007  Survey: http://tinyurl.com/3xjzaf" taken up [from Christophe]
22:11:24 <Christophe> Topic: Issue 2358: There is no SC governing the visibility of focus
22:12:53 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
22:13:13 <Christophe> Topic: Sean to test whether :active works in IE (issue 2358)
22:13:40 <MichaelC> action: Sean to test whether :active works in IE (issue 2358)
22:14:01 <MichaelC> s/Topic: Sean to test whether :active works in IE (issue 2358)//
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22:18:23 <MichaelC> q+ to say applets ideally follow platform preferences
22:19:09 <Loretta> ack b
22:19:59 <Loretta> ack s
22:20:30 <MichaelC> ack me
22:20:30 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say applets ideally follow platform preferences
22:21:01 <Christophe> q+ to say "re action: look at :focus instead of :active?"
22:21:18 <MichaelC> q+ to say the failure about not overriding is important
22:24:19 <Loretta> ack c
22:24:19 <Zakim> Christophe, you wanted to say "re action: look at :focus instead of :active?"
22:25:15 <Zakim> - +1.617.584.aall
22:25:34 <Ben> q+ to say, "this is partially covered in F55"
22:25:48 <Loretta> ack m
22:25:48 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say the failure about not overriding is important
22:27:06 <Loretta> ack b
22:27:06 <Zakim> Ben, you wanted to say, "this is partially covered in F55"
22:28:02 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
22:30:40 <Christophe> Resolution: Leave issue 2358 open for rework
22:31:26 <Christophe> Topic: Issue 1980: no provision for link highlighting
22:31:34 <Christophe> Resolution: Leave issue 1980 open for rework
22:32:02 <Christophe> Topic: Issue 1994: SC 2.4.1: use of term "block of content"
22:34:45 <Andi> q+
22:35:04 <Gregg> ack a
22:40:03 <Christophe> Resolution: Issue 1994 accepted.
22:40:49 <Christophe> Topic: Issue 2007: Page title as context
22:42:02 <Zakim> -Roberto_Ellero
22:44:46 <Christophe> Resolution: Issue 2007 accepted.
22:45:11 <Christophe> Topic: Issues 2016, 2126, 2031: SC 1.4.1 Color Differences
22:53:53 <Christophe> Action: Gregg to review all responses to SC 1.4.4, with special emphasis on 2126
22:54:42 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
23:02:56 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
23:03:22 <Christophe> Resolution: accept 1.4.1 as ammended and SC 1.4.1 issues as ammended (2016, 2126, 2031, 2205, 2255)
23:04:12 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea
23:07:30 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow-Weaver
23:07:31 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
23:07:32 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
23:07:33 <Zakim> -Cooper
23:07:34 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
23:07:34 <Zakim> -Sean_Hayes
23:07:35 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
23:07:36 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
23:07:37 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
23:07:44 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
23:07:46 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
23:07:47 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.617.253.aaaa, Bruce_Bailey, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Tim_Boland, +44.114.288.aabb, Cooper, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Christophe_Strobbe, Alex_Li, Liddy_Nevile, Andy_Heath,
23:07:52 <Zakim> ... Roberto_Scano, Ben_Caldwell, Cynthia_Shelly, Andi_Snow-Weaver, +078750aacc, Sean_Hayes, Drew_LaHart, David_MacDonald, Katie_Haritos-Shea, [IPcaller], Bengt_Farre,
23:07:54 <Zakim> ... Roberto_Ellero, +1.410.757.aadd, +078750aaee, [Microsoft]
23:08:04 <Christophe> rrsagent, make minutes
23:08:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/27-wai-wcag-minutes.html Christophe
23:10:48 <Ben> RRSAgent, pointer?
23:10:48 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/09/27-wai-wcag-irc#T23-10-48
23:11:01 <Ben> Zakim, bye
23:11:01 <Zakim> Zakim has left #wai-wcag
23:11:04 <Ben> RRSAgent, bye
23:11:04 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/27-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
23:11:04 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Loretta to try to incorporate the 1.4.3 note into the provision [1]
23:11:04 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/27-wai-wcag-irc#T21-34-24
23:11:04 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Alex to draft technique for Issue 2272. [2]
23:11:04 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/27-wai-wcag-irc#T21-48-39
23:11:04 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sean to look up authors of readability tools in MS products [3]
23:11:04 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/27-wai-wcag-irc#T22-02-33
23:11:04 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sean to test whether :active works in IE (issue 2358) [4]
23:11:04 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/27-wai-wcag-irc#T22-13-40
23:11:04 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Gregg to review all responses to SC 1.4.4, with special emphasis on 2126 [5]
23:11:04 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/27-wai-wcag-irc#T22-53-53