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14:57:32 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make log public
14:57:56 <John_Boyer> Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Telecon
14:58:06 <John_Boyer> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Sep/0082.html
14:58:07 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()11:00AM has now started
14:58:15 <Zakim> +[IBM]
14:58:20 <Charlie> zakim, [IBM] is Charlie
14:58:20 <Zakim> +Charlie; got it
14:58:20 <John_Boyer> John_Boyer has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Sep/0082.html
14:58:24 <Zakim> +wellsk
14:58:29 <Charlie> hi john, keith
14:58:33 <John_Boyer> hey!
14:58:39 <wellsk> hi
15:00:53 <Zakim> +Leigh_Klotz
15:01:44 <klotz> klotz has joined #forms
15:01:49 <John_Boyer> zakim, code?
15:01:49 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), John_Boyer
15:02:17 <unl> unl has joined #forms
15:02:21 <Zakim> + +1.250.294.aaaa
15:02:32 <John_Boyer> zakim, aaaa is John_Boyer
15:02:32 <Zakim> +John_Boyer; got it
15:02:33 <Nick> Nick has joined #Forms
15:02:33 <Roger> Roger has joined #forms
15:02:39 <Nick> zakim, code?
15:02:41 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Nick
15:02:47 <John_Boyer> Chair: John
15:02:50 <John_Boyer> Scribe: Leigh
15:02:54 <Zakim> +??P22
15:02:57 <John_Boyer> Regrets: Steven, Erik
15:03:04 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am ?
15:03:04 <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it
15:03:28 <Zakim> +Nick_van_den_Bleeken
15:03:37 <Zakim> +unl
15:03:56 <Zakim> + +034912aabb
15:04:02 <Roger> zakim, aabb is Roger
15:04:02 <Zakim> +Roger; got it
15:04:02 <lars> lars has joined #forms
15:04:08 <unl> zakim, mute me
15:04:08 <Zakim> sorry, unl, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
15:04:15 <lars> zakim, code?
15:04:15 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), lars
15:04:39 <unl> zakim, who is here
15:04:40 <Zakim> unl, you need to end that query with '?'
15:04:54 <unl> zakim, who is here ?
15:04:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see Charlie, John_Boyer, Leigh_Klotz, +1.250.294.aaaa, markbirbeck, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, Ulrich_Nicolas_Lisse, Roger
15:04:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see lars, Roger, Nick, unl, klotz, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, Charlie, markbirbeck, trackbot-ng
15:04:58 <Zakim> +??P29
15:05:15 <Nick> can anyone help me how I can add the empty string to the xforms schema types in schema?
15:05:21 <unl> zakim, Ulrich_Nicolas_Lisse is me
15:05:21 <Zakim> +unl; got it
15:05:25 <lars> zakim, ??P29 is lars
15:05:25 <Zakim> +lars; got it
15:05:30 <Nick> zakim, mute me
15:05:30 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
15:05:57 <John_Boyer> zakim, John_Boyer is +1.250.294.aaaa
15:05:57 <Zakim> ++1.250.294.aaaa; got it
15:06:02 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
15:06:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see Charlie, +1.250.294.aaaa.a, Leigh_Klotz, +1.250.294.aaaa, markbirbeck, Nick_van_den_Bleeken (muted), unl, Roger, lars
15:06:04 <Zakim> On IRC I see lars, Roger, Nick, unl, klotz, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, Charlie, markbirbeck, trackbot-ng
15:06:42 <John_Boyer> zakim, +1.250.294.aaaa is John_Boyer
15:06:42 <Zakim> +John_Boyer; got it
15:06:47 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
15:06:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see Charlie, +1.250.294.aaaa.a, Leigh_Klotz, John_Boyer, markbirbeck, Nick_van_den_Bleeken (muted), unl, Roger, lars
15:06:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see lars, Roger, Nick, unl, klotz, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, Charlie, markbirbeck, trackbot-ng
15:07:26 <John_Boyer> zakim, +1.250 is wellsk
15:07:26 <Zakim> +wellsk; got it
15:07:33 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
15:07:33 <Zakim> On the phone I see Charlie, wellsk, Leigh_Klotz, John_Boyer, markbirbeck, Nick_van_den_Bleeken (muted), unl, Roger, lars
15:07:35 <Zakim> On IRC I see lars, Roger, Nick, unl, klotz, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, Charlie, markbirbeck, trackbot-ng
15:08:01 <John_Boyer> zakim, mute wellsk
15:08:01 <Zakim> wellsk should now be muted
15:08:12 <lars> \o/
15:08:16 <John_Boyer> zakim, unmute wellsk
15:08:16 <Zakim> wellsk should no longer be muted
15:08:43 <lars> zakim, mute me
15:08:43 <Zakim> lars should now be muted
15:08:43 <Roger> Regrets also Rafael
15:08:51 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
15:08:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Charlie, wellsk, Leigh_Klotz, John_Boyer, markbirbeck, Nick_van_den_Bleeken (muted), unl, Roger, lars (muted)
15:08:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see lars, Roger, Nick, unl, klotz, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, Charlie, markbirbeck, trackbot-ng
15:08:57 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is making noise?
15:09:10 <Zakim> John_Boyer, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: John_Boyer (16%), markbirbeck (11%), unl (22%)
15:09:28 <unl> zakim, mute me
15:09:28 <Zakim> unl should now be muted
15:09:45 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Sep/0082.html
15:11:58 <Blake> Blake has joined #forms
15:12:03 <Nick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Sep/0080.html
15:12:36 <Nick> (e-mail that John has sent)
15:13:01 <John_Boyer> 28http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-forms-minutes.html#action01 <http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-forms-minutes.html> rnhttp://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-forms-minutes.html#action01
15:13:45 <Zakim> + +1.541.754.aacc
15:13:52 <Blake> zakim, aacc is me
15:13:54 <Zakim> sorry, Blake, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
15:14:04 <Blake> zakim, +aacc is me
15:14:04 <Zakim> sorry, Blake, I do not recognize a party named '+aacc'
15:14:44 <Blake> zakim, +1541 is me
15:14:44 <Zakim> +Blake; got it
15:18:23 <Nick> we have had some negative replies too....
15:21:35 <Nick> It also seems that the replies sent by our issue system didn't come through to the w3c mailing lists
15:21:57 <Nick> zakim, unmute me
15:21:57 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should no longer be muted
15:22:49 <markbirbeck> zakim, mute me
15:22:49 <Zakim> markbirbeck should now be muted
15:23:50 <unl> zakim, unmute me
15:23:50 <Zakim> unl should no longer be muted
15:27:33 <Nick> it is on the list too
15:28:19 <Nick> I also started on the readonly samples, they will be finished before next call
15:29:05 <unl> zakim, mute me
15:29:05 <Zakim> unl should now be muted
15:29:24 <markbirbeck> zakim, unmute me
15:29:24 <Zakim> markbirbeck should no longer be muted
15:32:41 <klotz> ACTION: Mark Birbeck to prepare email for XForms 1.2 / WF2 charter issues.
15:32:41 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Mark
15:32:41 <trackbot-ng> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. mseaborn, mbirbeck)
15:33:42 <Nick> zakim, mute me
15:33:42 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
15:33:55 <markbirbeck> zakim, mute me
15:33:55 <Zakim> markbirbeck should now be muted
15:34:42 <Nick> yes to ww-forms I think
15:34:49 <Nick> a month ago
15:35:07 <Nick> 8:20
15:35:11 <Nick> 8/20/2007
15:36:31 <Nick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0016.html
15:36:39 <Nick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0015.html
15:36:49 <Nick> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0013.html
15:37:02 <Nick> are the threads about the test suite
15:37:04 <markbirbeck> zakim, unmute me
15:37:04 <Zakim> markbirbeck should no longer be muted
15:37:41 <klotz> ACTION: Keith Wells to read unanswered messages http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/ from 20, 21, and 22 August from David Landwehr and answer, fix, or report to WG for discussion.  We need those resolved to get the implementation report done.
15:37:41 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-418 - Wells to read unanswered messages http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/ from 20, 21, and 22 August from David Landwehr and answer, fix, or report to WG for discussion.  We need those resolved to get the implementation report done. [on Keith Wells - due 2007-10-03].
15:37:55 <klotz> s/We need those resolved to get the implementation report done.//
15:40:03 <markbirbeck> zakim, mute me
15:40:03 <Zakim> markbirbeck should now be muted
15:40:28 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-id
15:41:16 <lars> zakim, unmute me
15:41:16 <Zakim> lars should no longer be muted
15:43:58 <Nick> I will clean up my list too, 
15:46:14 <lars> Leigh I think it would be possible like that (or maybe doing a reference implementation in haskell). I wasn't however able to contrain the scope of this to something that I could handle :(
15:47:04 <Nick> can you sent an e-mail?
15:47:15 <klotz> Nick who are you asking?
15:50:07 <markbirbeck> no :)
15:50:14 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Sep/0054.html
15:50:17 <markbirbeck> (no experience of them...)
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15:57:38 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#structure-abstract
15:57:41 <Nick> in the schema it is xsd:anyURI
15:58:14 <Nick> but that is no longer normative...
15:58:27 <Nick> in the schema
15:58:30 <Nick> in the schema it is xsd:anyURI
15:58:55 <Nick> ok, sorry
15:59:41 <John_Boyer> propose responding to i18n group by saying that yes we do now say xsd:anyURI in the normative part of the spec
16:00:12 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Sep/0054.html
16:00:41 <Roger> thx
16:00:44 <unl> bye
16:00:44 <Zakim> -Charlie
16:00:45 <Zakim> -Blake
16:00:48 <Zakim> -markbirbeck
16:00:50 <Zakim> -Nick_van_den_Bleeken
16:00:53 <Zakim> -John_Boyer
16:00:53 <Blake> Blake has left #forms
16:00:55 <Zakim> -Roger
16:00:56 <Zakim> -wellsk
16:00:57 <klotz> RESOLVED: Respond to i18n group by saying that yes we do now say xsd:anyURI in the normative part of the spec.
16:00:57 <klotz> ACTION: John Boyer to reply to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Sep/0054.html by saying that yes we do now say xsd:anyURI in the normative part of the spec
16:00:57 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
16:00:57 <trackbot-ng> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
16:00:58 <Zakim> -unl
16:01:01 <Zakim> -Leigh_Klotz
16:01:10 <wellsk> wellsk has left #forms
16:01:20 <John_Boyer> RESOLUTION: Respond to i18n group by saying that yes we do now say xsd:anyURI in the normative part of the spec.
16:01:34 <Zakim> -lars
16:01:36 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()11:00AM has ended
16:01:38 <Zakim> Attendees were Charlie, wellsk, Leigh_Klotz, markbirbeck, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, unl, +034912aabb, Roger, lars, John_Boyer, +1.541.754.aacc, Blake
16:01:56 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make minutes
16:01:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/26-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
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16:06:28 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, bye
16:06:28 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/26-forms-actions.rdf :
16:06:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mark Birbeck to prepare email for XForms 1.2 / WF2 charter issues. [1]
16:06:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/26-forms-irc#T15-32-41
16:06:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Keith Wells to read unanswered messages http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/ from 20, 21, and 22 August from David Landwehr and answer, fix, or report to WG for discussion.  We need those resolved to get the implementation report done. [2]
16:06:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/26-forms-irc#T15-37-41
16:06:28 <RRSAgent> ACTION: John Boyer to reply to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Sep/0054.html by saying that yes we do now say xsd:anyURI in the normative part of the spec [3]
16:06:28 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/26-forms-irc#T16-00-57-1