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13:57:27 <ericP> Zakim, space for 6?
13:57:29 <Zakim> ok, ericP; conference Team_(dawg)13:57Z scheduled with code 26632 (CONF2) for 60 minutes until 1457Z
13:57:42 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
13:57:42 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
13:57:43 <Zakim> Team_(dawg)13:57Z has now started
13:57:44 <Zakim> +EricP
13:57:53 <ericP> how'zat?
13:58:02 <ericP> brb, quick bio break
14:01:20 <Zakim> +LeeF
14:01:37 <LeeF> ericP, did you let Ralph and Steve know where we are?
14:03:51 <steve> steve has joined #dawg
14:04:07 <steve> zakim, what is the code?
14:04:07 <Zakim> the conference code is 26632 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steve
14:04:24 <Zakim> -EricP
14:04:48 <LeeF> Phone dying - finding a new one
14:05:04 <Zakim> +SteveB
14:05:35 <ericP> Zakim, SteveB has ericP, SteveB
14:05:35 <Zakim> +ericP, SteveB; got it
14:09:02 <LeeF> general DAWG comments list: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/
14:10:56 <steve> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/issues
14:12:36 <ericP> Meeting: SPARQL XML Results Format transition to CR call
14:12:44 <ericP> Scribe: ericP
14:13:41 <steve> Action:  EricP to update disposition of comments list with 2 comments
14:13:45 <ericP> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2007Aug/0005.html Stu's request to allow arbitrary XML embedded in results
14:14:21 <ericP> LeeF: dev of XMLRes happened early in WG life
14:15:11 <ericP> ... apart from removal of @ordered and @distinct, stable since jun,jul 2005
14:15:36 <ericP> ... this comment got a response saying that this feature request would make parsing much harder
14:16:54 <ericP> ... expect that WG will have neither energy or desire to take this up now
14:17:36 <ericP> ... precedent that WG satisfied with XMLRes, as well as concearned about schedule
14:18:22 <ericP> ... even if they did take discuss it, expect that the feature wouldn't be adopted based on technical complexity
14:18:49 <ericP> ... exchanged mail with commentor, who said that he "only broght it up to show some users would like it"
14:19:37 <ericP> ... this feature could be added to a later SPARQL
14:21:03 <ericP> Action: LeeF to record Tuesdays disposition ...
14:21:27 <ericP> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2007Sep/0011.html AlanR's request for metadata
14:22:14 <ericP> LeeF: evolved to a request for a sparql/head/meta element
14:22:34 <ericP> ... echoed by 2 or 3 others on the list
14:23:41 <ericP> ... WG discussed this on last Tue and decided not to take it up
14:24:13 <ericP> ... ericP asked AlanR if he was content with the "too late" response. verbal response was "yes"
14:25:15 <ericP> Steve: impl status? report?
14:26:05 <ericP> LeeF: almost every SPARQL language implentation also implements this XML Results format
14:26:23 <ericP> ... test suite uses XMLResults so we can prove implementation that way
14:27:15 <ericP> Steve: what's your CR duration?
14:27:35 <ericP> LeeF: I proposed 3 weeks
14:27:40 <ericP> ... can do 4 weeks
14:28:49 <ericP> Steve: checking process, but since you have at least 10 impls, i'm not concearned with a short CR
14:33:10 <LeeF> "# Each identified SPARQL feature has at least two implementations."
14:38:47 <steve> W3C's Current Practices for Presenting Dispositions of Comments
14:38:52 <steve> http://www.w3.org/2006/08/Current-DoC-Practices.html
14:40:41 <ericP> SPARQL XML Results CR will be from 24 Sept to 9 Oct
14:41:03 <ericP> Steve: any features as risk?
14:41:07 <ericP> LeeF: no
14:42:05 <steve> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/
14:42:31 <ericP> LeeF, http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rf1/ should be identical to http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/ apart from SOTD
14:42:41 <ericP> LeeF: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rf1/ should be identical to http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-XMLres/ apart from SOTD
14:42:55 <ericP> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rf1/ editor's draft
14:43:45 <ericP> Steve: patent policy issues? disclosures?
14:43:48 <ericP> LeeF: none
14:44:08 <ericP> Steve: need to:
14:44:12 <ericP> ... .. update status of these two comments
14:44:24 <ericP> ... .. director's decision
14:46:50 <ericP> Steve: on behalf of the director, I approve this transition, contigent on the WG deciding not to take up the arbitrary embedded XML feature request
14:47:05 <ericP> Steve: do you see much take-up of SPARQL?
14:47:30 <ericP> LeeF: maybe SPARQL's wierd, but I'm not used to seeing this level of interest in a spec that's not a Rec
14:49:27 <Zakim> -SteveB
14:49:30 <Zakim> -LeeF
14:49:31 <Zakim> Team_(dawg)13:57Z has ended
14:49:33 <Zakim> Attendees were EricP, LeeF, SteveB
14:49:39 <ericP> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:49:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/21-dawg-minutes.html ericP
14:50:05 <ericP> RRSAgent, please make log world-visible
14:51:34 <ericP> LeeF, which number?
14:52:25 <ericP> how 'bout this one?
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14:55:00 <LeeF> xml results format --
14:55:42 <LeeF> disposition of comments for the 2 comments, linked to from crq351 (LeeF)
14:55:52 <LeeF> director's decision (EricP)
14:56:08 <LeeF> WG to consider Stu's comment on Tuesday (DAWG)
14:57:41 <LeeF> pubrules compliance, setup with webmaster (EricP)
14:57:54 <LeeF> Tell Webmaster to publish on Tuesday (LeeF)
14:58:07 <LeeF> ........................................
14:58:26 <LeeF> query language implementation report --
15:11:44 <LeeF> Email to Malcolm Crowe re: automated results for PyrrhoDb (EricP)
15:13:22 <LeeF> Import data and generate an impl report and document all steps (EricP)
15:17:00 <LeeF> Disposition of QL comments since CR (LeeF)
15:17:30 <LeeF> ........................................................
15:17:32 <LeeF> protocol to PR --
15:18:07 <LeeF> Figure out form of implementation report from past examples (LeeF)
15:20:59 <LeeF> Test multiple HTTP endpoints (EliasT)
15:21:06 <LeeF> Test multiple SOAP endpoints (AndyS)
15:21:22 <LeeF> ..................................................
15:21:32 <LeeF> xml results format to PR --
15:27:22 <LeeF> Figure out form of implementation report from past examples (LeeF)
15:31:26 <LeeF> cripes! my forwarded email didn't attach the file properly
15:39:01 <LeeF> also needs to be done - find unanswered comments (incl. protocol comments)
15:45:18 <ericP> that kinda sucks. long history to go through
15:47:52 <LeeF> tell me about it
15:48:55 <LeeF> did you get an email i just sent to public-rdf-dawg w/ Ivan M's test results?
15:57:16 <ericP> waiting for my friggin' mutt to sort
15:57:39 <ericP> !!!
15:59:01 <ericP> i see 111k of anzo-glitter-earl-2007-09-21.ttl
16:00:30 <ericP> Subject: [Moderator Action (size limit exceeded)] [Fwd: Re: DAWG members - please submit EARL by Sept 21]
16:01:04 <ericP> should i bounce that one?
16:01:15 <ericP> actually, i don't think i can easily override that one
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16:38:34 <LeeF> oh you can't? hmm
16:38:53 <LeeF> Ivan M mailed the results directly to you, so you can just put in DAWG CVS / web space