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15:08:53 <dbooth> Meeting: GRDDL
15:09:10 <chimezie> zakim, please load agenda from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/weekly-agenda
15:09:10 <Zakim> I don't understand you, chimezie
15:09:18 <rreck> Zakim, who is talking?
15:09:24 <jjc> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/weekly-agenda
15:09:29 <Zakim> rreck, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: jjc (8%)
15:09:31 <chimezie> zakim, read agena from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/weekly-agenda
15:09:33 <Zakim> working on it, chimezie
15:09:35 <Zakim> done reading agena, chimezie
15:09:48 <chimezie> zakim, read agenda from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/weekly-agenda
15:09:50 <Zakim> working on it, chimezie
15:09:53 <Zakim> agenda+ Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-09-19T11:00-0400
15:09:55 <Zakim> agendum 1 added
15:09:57 <Zakim> agenda+ GRDDL Outreach (Atom)
15:09:58 <Zakim> agendum 2 added
15:10:00 <Zakim> agenda+ W3C GRDDL Service
15:10:01 <Zakim> agendum 3 added
15:10:04 <Zakim> agenda+ Relationship to XHTML 2 and HTML 5: head/@profile at risk
15:10:06 <Zakim> agendum 4 added
15:10:07 <Zakim> agenda+ GRDDL Wrap-Up
15:10:08 <Zakim> agendum 5 added
15:10:09 <Zakim> done reading agenda, chimezie
15:10:11 <Zakim> +??P6
15:10:20 <danja> Zakim, ??P6 is danja
15:10:20 <Zakim> +danja; got it
15:10:52 <chimezie> Zakim, who is here?
15:10:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see john-l, rreck, FabienG, jjc, DBooth, Chimezie_Ogbuji, danja
15:10:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, dbooth, danja, Zakim, jjc, FabienG, chimezie, john-l, rreck
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15:11:10 <danja> HarryH and DanC still partying then..?
15:11:15 <danja> oh, apparently not
15:11:39 <jjc> yes
15:11:55 <dbooth> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:11:55 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-09-19T11:00-0400" taken up
15:12:05 <dbooth> Previous minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Sep/att-0003/05-grddl-wg-minutes.html
15:12:23 <jjc> do you want to participate by irc only?
15:12:34 <HarryH> chair: HarryH
15:12:51 <HarryH> scribe: chime
15:12:57 <HarryH> regrets: murray, DanC
15:12:58 <dbooth> Motion to approve minutes?
15:13:04 <HarryH> PROPOSED: to approve GRDDL WG -- 5th Sept 2007 as a true record
15:13:09 <jjc> David to be phone chair
15:13:13 <HarryH> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Sep/att-0003/05-grddl-wg-minutes.html
15:13:23 <HarryH> chair: dbooth (phone)
15:13:30 <danja> next meeting - in a month?
15:13:33 <HarryH> (HarryH to participate via IRC)
15:13:33 <danja> sounds good
15:13:44 <HarryH> What time do people prefer?
15:13:50 <HarryH> (i.e. day)
15:13:55 <jjc> October 17?
15:14:03 <dbooth> PROPOSED: Next meeting Oct 17
15:14:05 <HarryH> Works for me.
15:14:07 <chimezie> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Sep/0018.html Harry proposal to once a month
15:14:09 <HarryH> Any objections?
15:14:24 <dbooth> RESOLVED: Next meeting Oct 17
15:14:24 <chimezie> s/to/for
15:14:41 <HarryH> Zakim, next item
15:14:41 <Zakim> agendum 2. "GRDDL Outreach (Atom)" taken up
15:14:49 <HarryH> Danja?
15:15:06 <danja> http://n2.talis.com/svn/playground/danja/misc/atom/
15:15:16 <danja> new xslt based on xslt 1.0
15:15:37 <dbooth> ACTION: danja and john-l to test and see if any XSLT is mature enough to add to ATOM namespace doc and has proper licensing (W3C Software license), as well as canvass all candidate XSLT authors for their opinion on ATOM/RSS 1.0 namespace. [CONTINUED]
15:15:51 <HarryH> Zakim, next item
15:15:51 <Zakim> agendum 3. "W3C GRDDL Service" taken up
15:16:11 <HarryH> All actions have been done.
15:16:15 <jjc> Zakim, who's on the call?
15:16:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see john-l, rreck, FabienG, jjc, DBooth, Chimezie_Ogbuji, danja
15:16:26 <HarryH> ACTION: DanC to remove base param from online GRDDL service and home2rss.xsl [DONE]
15:16:29 <chimezie> dbooth:DanC claimed victory on a couple of things
15:16:39 <HarryH> ACTION: DanC to get GRDDL service to offer text/n3 and text/plain for turtle [DONE]
15:16:48 <chimezie> <- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Sep/0016.html DanC's victory claim
15:16:55 <HarryH> Shall we continue to pester HTML validator and RDF validator to be GRDDL-enabled?
15:16:59 <chimezie> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Sep/0016.html DanC's victory claim
15:17:09 <dbooth> Harry, DanC's first action is also done?
15:17:10 <jjc> ?? Harry would is the link showing first action done?
15:17:17 <chimezie> [[
15:17:17 <chimezie> I claim victory on that.
15:17:18 <chimezie> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/grddl/
15:17:19 <chimezie> ]]
15:17:26 <dbooth> I read that as applying to the second action.
15:17:45 <HarryH> Look at meeting minutes http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Sep/att-0003/05-grddl-wg-minutes.html
15:17:55 <dbooth> His comment seems to say that the first action should be continued.
15:17:56 <HarryH> He claimed victory then I think...
15:18:14 <HarryH> He forgot that he claimed victory in the previous meeting.
15:18:32 <dbooth> ok, so it's done.
15:18:38 <HarryH> Since that action applied only to previous version of GRDDL service.
15:18:48 <dbooth> ok, on to next item
15:18:50 <HarryH> So, does anyone want to continue pestering HTML validator and RDF validator?
15:19:00 <dbooth> zakim, next agendum
15:19:00 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Relationship to XHTML 2 and HTML 5: head/@profile at risk" taken up
15:19:12 <HarryH> I take that as a no :)
15:19:14 <HarryH> E-mail sent.
15:19:32 <dbooth> ACTION:Chime to comment to XHTML2 comment list about preserving head/@profile re GRDDL and backwards-compatibility. [CONTINUED]
15:19:45 <HarryH> My only question is that what should I level of objection be if XHTML 2 is determined to elimate @profile?
15:19:50 <dbooth> ACTION: HarryH to tell XHTML2 WG to not change syntax [DONE]
15:20:12 <HarryH> I.e. shall I be vociferous or shall I just ignore them?
15:20:23 <HarryH> them  = XHTML 2 WG
15:20:39 <dbooth> JJC: If it's a personal objection, it's up to him.
15:20:47 <HarryH> By ignore, I mean, state that while we are not satisified, we will not object if they deprecate @profile.
15:21:00 <dbooth> JJC: If they decide to ignore it, we can talk about it then.
15:21:02 <HarryH> Yes - and is this a comment from the "GRDDL WG" or from "me"?
15:21:11 <chimezie> I got the impression they are well-informed about the risk of being alienated from GRDDL aware-agents
15:21:27 <HarryH> It appears that the GRDDL WG will likely be closed by the time XHTML 2 becomes a Rec.
15:21:33 <dbooth> JJC: I'm assuming this issue won't get resolved until after the GRDDL WG is defunct.
15:21:34 <chimezie> jjc: comment won't be resolved until the group is finished
15:21:57 <dbooth> DBooth: Therefore it should be a personal objection?
15:22:14 <dbooth> JJC: Yes.  Though if the GRDDL WG is still around, we can consider it then.
15:22:22 <HarryH> So, it's a personal objection.
15:22:30 <dbooth> DBooth: Yes.
15:22:36 <jjc> I believe this is harry's responsibility, and if the group is still around if and when the comment is inadequately addressed harry can ask GRDDL WG to support an objection
15:22:38 <dbooth> (Group agrees)
15:22:48 <HarryH> In which case, I will not be vociferous as long as they are informed that they are breaking GRDDL-compatibility that's fine.
15:23:05 <HarryH> Chime - you can close your action if you wish.
15:23:08 <HarryH> Do you?
15:23:32 <dbooth> Chime: I agree with that, and close my action too.
15:23:43 <dbooth> zakim, next agendum
15:23:43 <Zakim> agendum 5. "GRDDL Wrap-Up" taken up
15:24:05 <rreck> good catch
15:24:19 <HarryH> ACTION:Chime to comment to XHTML2 comment list about preserving head/@profile re GRDDL and backwards-compatibility. [DONE]
15:24:20 <dbooth> s/CONTINUED/DONE/
15:24:43 <dbooth> Harry's action?
15:24:47 <HarryH> I claim victory on web-page. Anything anyone wants to see added that's not there?
15:24:59 <dbooth> ACTION: HarryH to update web-page [DONE]
15:25:15 <HarryH> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/
15:25:23 <dbooth> Anything else that should be done?
15:25:25 <jjc> Harry, press release update?
15:25:39 <HarryH> It seemed to go well.
15:25:42 <dbooth> I didn't get any calls from the press.
15:25:53 <dbooth> (But i wasn't really expecting any either.)
15:25:56 <HarryH> I don't think it made a huge splash.
15:26:02 <HarryH> I.e. CNN didn't cover it :)
15:26:04 <dbooth> Anything else shold be done?
15:26:18 <HarryH> But the amount of web traffic increased signficantly, and a few blog entries etc.
15:26:33 <HarryH> I cannot think of anything.
15:26:47 <dbooth> Any other business today?
15:27:29 <HarryH> OK, if not, let's close meeting.
15:27:36 <HarryH> Although, we need a scribe for next meeting.
15:27:41 <rreck> second
15:27:54 <HarryH> Zakim, pick a scribe
15:27:54 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose rreck
15:28:01 <rreck> whew
15:28:06 <HarryH> Hmm...I thought Rreck scribed recently.
15:28:11 <HarryH> Zakim, pick a scribe
15:28:11 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose john-l
15:28:17 <HarryH> Ack, so did john.
15:28:19 <HarryH> Zakim, pick a scribe
15:28:19 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose DBooth
15:28:20 <dbooth> Harry, Danny volunteered
15:28:26 <HarryH> Excellent.
15:28:27 <dbooth> Next scribe: Danny
15:28:33 <HarryH> Meeting Adjourned.
15:28:41 <rreck> bye
15:28:43 <danja> bye
15:28:43 <Zakim> -Chimezie_Ogbuji
15:28:45 <Zakim> -jjc
15:28:45 <Zakim> -john-l
15:28:49 <Zakim> -danja
15:28:50 <Zakim> -FabienG
15:28:53 <jjc> Zakim, list participants
15:28:53 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.216.445.aaaa, +049238aabb, john-l, jjc, DBooth, rreck, Chimezie_Ogbuji, FabienG, danja
15:28:56 <dbooth> rrsagent, make logs public
15:29:04 <rreck> rotary phones? where are you?
15:29:14 <chimezie> rssagent, generate minutes
15:29:18 <HarryH> Strangely enough, in Germany at a conference.
15:29:18 <dbooth> Chair: Harry
15:29:22 <jjc> RRSAgent, generate minutes
15:29:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-grddl-wg-minutes.html jjc
15:29:35 <chimezie> ty
15:29:39 <HarryH> Bye?
15:31:15 <dbooth> Present: Harry (IRC only), John-Clark, Jeremy, DBooth, RonReck, Chimezie, FabienG, DannyAyres
15:31:38 <dbooth> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:31:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-grddl-wg-minutes.html dbooth
15:32:20 <Zakim> -DBooth
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15:32:43 <dbooth> zakim, bye
15:32:43 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +1.216.445.aaaa, +049238aabb, john-l, jjc, DBooth, rreck, Chimezie_Ogbuji, FabienG, danja
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15:44:47 <dbooth> s/Ayres/Ayers/
15:44:55 <dbooth> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:44:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-grddl-wg-minutes.html dbooth
15:46:50 <dbooth> i/Meeting: GRDDL/ScribeNick: chimezie
15:46:55 <dbooth> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:46:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-grddl-wg-minutes.html dbooth
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