IRC log of er on 2007-09-19

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-er-irc

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13:54:41 [shadi]

zakim, this will be ERT

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ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes

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meeting: ERT WG

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chair: Shadi

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regrets: Reinhard

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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Sep/0024.html

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agenda+ Pointer Methods

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WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started

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+CarlosV

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zakim, carlosv is really JohannesK

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+JohannesK; got it

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+JohannesK.a

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-JohannesK.a

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+Klaus/Johannes/Thomas

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zakim, klaus is really CarlosV

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+CarlosV; got it

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+Shadi

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+Carlos_Iglesias

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zakim, who is on the phone?

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On the phone I see JohannesK, CarlosV, Shadi, Carlos_Iglesias

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regrets: Reinhard, David

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agenda+ Teleconference time

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zakim, take up agendum 1

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agendum 1. "Pointer Methods" taken up [from shadi]

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Sep/0022

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scribe: Shadi

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any comments on the model?

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jk: why is the a pointer property in the pointer class?

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Pointer (ptr:pointer)

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ci: Pointer class is abstract and sholdn't have that property

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jk: pointergroup needs it, should move it there

14:19:06 [carlosI]

JK: should move pointer propery to PointerGroup

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-CarlosV

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StartCharOffsetPointer

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+CarlosV

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saz: StartCharOffsetPointer has an offset pointer, which has a type

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ci: offset is an integer

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saz: should the range be an integer or rather offsetpointer?

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jk: repetition to offset in offsetpointer class, so should also be an integer

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saz: we can rename, what model is better?

14:32:21 [shadi]

jk: difference between offsetpointer and startoffsetpointer is that the first starts from the beginning of the referenced resource, while the other somewhere else

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saz: why do we specific the end pointers but not the start pointers of compound pointers?

14:41:34 [shadi]

ci: adds semantics, easier to query

14:42:32 [shadi]

jk: snippet is a literal and has a different meaning than offset (which is always an integer)

14:42:51 [shadi]

...byte snippet would probably need to be base64 encoded

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...how can this be defined in the schema?

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ci: can't specify more at the schema level

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jk: propose two properties, one for each type of property

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saz: can rdf:subpropertyof work?

14:53:34 [shadi]

jk: do we need sup-classes of snippetpointer if we have sub-properites of snippet?

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saz: what about sub-property of pointer property for each pointer type?

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action: CI develop an RDF schema based on that hierarchy and send to the list for discussion and optimization

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zakim, take up agendum 2

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agendum 2. "Teleconference time" taken up [from shadi]

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-JohannesK

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-Klaus/Johannes/Thomas

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-Shadi

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-Carlos_Iglesias

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WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were JohannesK, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas, CarlosV, Shadi, Carlos_Iglesias

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zakim, bye

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rrsagent, make logs world

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-er-minutes.html shadi

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rrsagent, make logs world

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rrsagent, bye

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I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-er-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: CI develop an RDF schema based on that hierarchy and send to the list for discussion and optimization [1]

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