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14:51:55 <TomB> rrsagent, bookmark
14:51:55 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T14-51-55
14:52:02 <TomB> zakim, this will be swd
14:52:02 <Zakim> ok, TomB, I see SW_SWD()11:00AM already started
14:52:07 <TomB> Meeting: SWD WG
14:52:10 <TomB> Chair: Tom
14:52:34 <TomB> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0037.html
14:52:58 <TomB> Regrets: Alistair, Diego, Ralph
14:53:07 <TomB> rrsagent, please make record public
14:59:01 <TomB> Regrets+ Clay, Guus
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15:03:12 <TomB> Scribe: Antoine
15:03:20 <Zakim> +[LC]
15:03:21 <TomB> Scribenick: antoine
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15:06:43 <Antoine> Topic: ADMIN
15:06:58 <Antoine> Tom: proposed to accept minutes
15:07:25 <Antoine> ... RESOLVED to accept minutes http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html
15:07:47 <Antoine> ... F2F meeting
15:08:06 <Antoine> ACTION all to register (indicate also that you're not planning to attend and/or want to attend via telecon)
15:08:10 <Antoine> ... continues
15:08:16 <TomB> -- continues
15:08:16 <Antoine> ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08]
15:08:27 <Antoine> --- continues
15:08:32 <Antoine> Topic: SKOS
15:08:51 <Antoine> ACTION: TomB to update Issue list to mark ISSUE-38 "CompatibilityWithOWL-DL" as "postponed" (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/38) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action03]
15:08:56 <Antoine> -- DONE
15:09:12 <Antoine> ACTION: Guus to move ISSUE-26 forward [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action04]
15:09:19 <Antoine> -- CONTINUES
15:09:26 <Antoine> ACTION: Guus to post user experience reports for ISSUE-26 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action05]
15:09:31 <Antoine> -- CONTINUES
15:09:35 <Zakim> +??P66
15:09:37 <Antoine> ACTION: Alistair to state the difference between the two flavours of the SimpleExtension proposal for issue 26 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-swd-minutes.html#action05]
15:09:41 <Antoine> -- CONTINUES
15:09:45 <Simone> Zakim, ??P66 is me
15:09:45 <Zakim> +Simone; got it
15:10:03 <Antoine> Amsterdam topic "Labeling properties" (Alistair)
15:10:32 <Antoine> Tom: anybody to comment?
15:10:58 <Antoine> ... idea was to finalize was were the relevant topics for each issues
15:11:10 <Antoine> ... help us to prepare individually for discussion
15:11:21 <Antoine> ... Alistair not here so we move up
15:11:32 <Antoine> Amsterdam topic "Semantic Relation Properties" (Sean)
15:11:40 <Antoine> Sean: had no time to work on it
15:12:17 <Antoine> ... i will try to put together some pieces of readings
15:12:29 <Antoine> Tom: bullet points and links to most salient emails
15:12:36 <Antoine> ... would be helpful
15:13:04 <Antoine> ACTION: Sean to prepare readings and discussion topics for Semantic Relation properties
15:13:32 <Antoine> Amsterdam topic "Concept Semantics" (Antoine)
15:14:14 <TomB> Antoine: tricky issue to write things on.  Before next telecon, will have more precise list of problems raised...
15:14:35 <TomB> ...going back through mailing list - 3-4 threads mention this...
15:15:03 <TomB> ...may come with proposed resolution to compare.
15:16:48 <TomB> ACTION: Antoine to make wiki page or list posting summarizing issues for "Concept Semantics"
15:17:21 <Antoine> ACTION: Guus to email a proposal to the list about the issue of containment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-swd-minutes.html#action01]
15:17:32 <Zakim> +Ben_Adida
15:17:33 <Antoine> -- CONTINUES
15:18:06 <Antoine> Tom: we still don't have a discussion leader
15:18:21 <Antoine> ... I'll ask for volunteers
15:18:36 <Antoine> ... we need to consider issue-36 on containment in this context
15:18:51 <Antoine> .. no volonteer today let's move it to next week
15:18:54 <Antoine> Topic: RDFa
15:19:04 <Antoine> ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08]
15:19:08 <Antoine> -- CONTINUES
15:19:23 <Antoine> Ben: one specific issue for the agenda
15:19:45 <Antoine> ... should be : are we ready to go for REC track
15:19:53 <Antoine> ... what is missing?
15:20:06 <Antoine> Tom: not everybody at the meeting will be familiar
15:20:29 <Antoine> ... it would be useful to compile what are the minimum info to have
15:20:38 <Antoine> ... and the question you will ask the WG
15:20:51 <Antoine> Ben: it would be great if everybody could read the primer
15:21:23 <Antoine> Tom: the important thing is to capture scope of discussion
15:21:44 <Antoine> Ben: I'll make it in one doc/email
15:21:58 <Antoine> ACTION: Guus to raise question three from Misha's email -- statements (creator, date modified, confidence...) about statements -- with the RDFa group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action11]
15:22:02 <Antoine> -- CONTINUES
15:22:11 <Antoine> Topic: Receipes
15:22:27 <Antoine> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/16) -- formerly known as "Recipe issue 1.3" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
15:22:32 <Antoine> -- CONTINUES
15:22:40 <Antoine> see comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0036.html
15:22:50 <JonP> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/60
15:22:50 <Antoine> ACTION: JonP to add questions 1 and 2 from IPTC question -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0023.html -- as recipe issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action10]
15:22:56 <Antoine> -- DONE
15:23:17 <Antoine> Tom: Amsterdam topic "Recipes": NO DISCUSSION LEADER YET
15:23:34 <Antoine> Jon volunteers unless Diego has objection
15:24:35 <Antoine> Tom: we need to be more precise in terms of requirement reading, expectations
15:24:55 <Antoine> ... additionnally to http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AmsterdamAgenda#Recipes
15:25:43 <Antoine> ... distinction between required reading and background reading
15:25:52 <Antoine> Jon: I'll do that
15:26:35 <Antoine> Tom: reading list should be as tight as possible but provide enough context
15:27:06 <Antoine> ACTION: Jon to clarify reading list and discussion points for Amsterdam agenda topic "Receipes"
15:27:18 <Antoine> Topic: Vocabulary management
15:27:25 <Antoine> ACTION: Elisa will configure IPTC from Misha's email into vocabulary management documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action12]
15:27:32 <Antoine> -- CONTINUES
15:27:39 <Antoine> ACTION: Elisa to ask for feedback on VM draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-swd-minutes.html#action06] 
15:27:42 <Antoine> -- CONTINUES
15:28:00 <Antoine> TOm: SWD review of "Cool URIs for the Semantic Web"
15:28:20 <Antoine> ... can michale, vit and ed can post something on the list about this?
15:28:35 <Antoine> s/michale/michael
15:28:52 <Antoine> Answer: yes
15:29:07 <Antoine> Tom: Amsterdam topic "Vocabulary Management" (Ralph locally, Elisa remotely)
15:29:22 <Antoine> ... moved to next week (Ralph and Eliza not here)
15:29:39 <Antoine> Tom: meeting is adjourned
15:29:47 <Zakim> -Ben_Adida
15:29:48 <Zakim> -Seanb
15:29:50 <Zakim> -Ed
15:29:51 <Zakim> -Vit
15:29:52 <Zakim> -dlrubin
15:29:53 <Zakim> -Simone
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15:30:26 <Antoine> Zakim, list participants
15:30:26 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been dlrubin, JonP, +1.317.031.aaaa, Antoine, Ed, Seanb, Vit, Simone, Ben_Adida
15:30:43 <Antoine> RRSAgent, make logs public
15:31:04 <Antoine> RRSAgent, generate minutes
15:31:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-minutes.html Antoine
15:34:53 <Antoine> zakim, list participants
15:34:53 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been dlrubin, JonP, +1.317.031.aaaa, Antoine, Ed, Seanb, Vit, Simone, Ben_Adida, TomB
15:39:28 <Antoine> RRSAgent, make logs public
15:39:38 <Antoine> RRSAgent, generate minutes
15:39:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-minutes.html Antoine
15:39:47 <Zakim> -Jon_Phipps
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15:40:30 <Antoine> Zakim, bye
15:40:30 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were dlrubin, JonP, +1.317.031.aaaa, Antoine, Ed, Seanb, Vit, Simone, Ben_Adida, TomB
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15:40:48 <Antoine> RRSAgent, bye
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> I see 15 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-actions.rdf :
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08] [1]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-08-16-1
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: TomB to update Issue list to mark ISSUE-38 "CompatibilityWithOWL-DL" as "postponed" (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/38) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action03] [2]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-08-51
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus to move ISSUE-26 forward [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action04] [3]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-09-12
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus to post user experience reports for ISSUE-26 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/03-swd-minutes.html#action05] [4]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-09-26
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Alistair to state the difference between the two flavours of the SimpleExtension proposal for issue 26 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-swd-minutes.html#action05] [5]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-09-37
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sean to prepare readings and discussion topics for Semantic Relation properties [6]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-13-04
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Antoine to make wiki page or list posting summarizing issues for "Concept Semantics" [7]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-16-48
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus to email a proposal to the list about the issue of containment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-swd-minutes.html#action01] [8]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-17-21
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph update RDFa agendum for Amsterdam f2f after discussion with RDFa TF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-swd-minutes.html#action08] [9]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-19-04
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Guus to raise question three from Misha's email -- statements (creator, date modified, confidence...) about statements -- with the RDFa group [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action11] [10]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-21-58
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to ISSUE-16 "Default behavior" (http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/16) -- formerly known as "Recipe issue 1.3" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [11]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-22-27
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JonP to add questions 1 and 2 from IPTC question -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Sep/0023.html -- as recipe issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action10] [12]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-22-50-1
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jon to clarify reading list and discussion points for Amsterdam agenda topic "Receipes" [13]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-27-06
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Elisa will configure IPTC from Misha's email into vocabulary management documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/11-swd-minutes.html#action12] [14]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-27-25
15:40:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Elisa to ask for feedback on VM draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/21-swd-minutes.html#action06]  [15]
15:40:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-swd-irc#T15-27-39
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