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15:02:51 <vipul> Zakim, who's on the call?
15:03:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see Susie, Kerstin_Forsberg, Vipul_Kashyap
15:03:06 <Zakim> +[IBM]
15:03:55 <Zakim> +Rachel
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15:07:13 <Zakim> +Alan
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15:11:25 <alanr> starting with emr data
15:11:38 <alanr> criteria given
15:11:59 <alanr> output is list of patients with some/all criteria
15:15:20 <alanr> ksrinivs@us.ibm.com
15:18:06 <alanr> Trigger = start a full comparison of the criteria for all the protocols
15:20:22 <alanr> Question: When are the criteria evaluated?
15:20:51 <alanr> Possibilities: As patient is diagnosed, trial pops up as a possible one
15:21:07 <alanr> or: A company comes asking for who are potential candidates
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15:22:07 <alanr> kavintha: button on physician's console showing patient info asking if they want to see what trials are available
15:22:16 <Zakim> +Helen_Chen
15:22:44 <Zakim> -Vipul_Kashyap
15:22:47 <alanr> Rachel: Who do we want the user to be
15:23:40 <Zakim> +Vipul_Kashyap
15:23:45 <alanr> The patient's doctor? or the Study Recruiters? Rachel thinks we were leaning to the latter
15:24:12 <alanr> We find pool of candidate
15:25:36 <alanr> Susie: Protocol driven side is more compelling.
15:28:36 <alanr> In the picture: Once the potential patients are identified, how are does the investigator make the final decision
15:30:57 <Helen> +q
15:33:01 <alanr> Helen's point: Some of the less easy to evaluate criteria can be evaluated by the physician at the site.
15:34:29 <alanr> Helen: From the point of view of physician, this is considered value added. Physician and hospital gets money for identifying potential patients.
15:35:50 <alanr> Action: Helen to send link to paper describing point system for evaluating patients
15:37:49 <alanr> Action: Helen to send example of proof to the list
15:38:50 <alanr> Vipul - issue with terminology. Differing definitions of diabetes according to MESH, SNOMED
15:39:33 <alanr> helen - patient record says diabetes according to snomed 
15:44:44 <alanr> Issue for requirements. If criterion is in terms of SNOMED and record is in terms of MESH, then how is the criterion evaluated.
15:49:59 <alanr> Action: Helen, Rachel to work on capturing Helen's "variation" of the use case. Combined evaluation/enrollment by doctor at site.
15:50:19 <alanr> Action: Susie to ping people at Lilly to evaluate use case
15:50:50 <alanr> Action: Bo and Kersten to ping people at Astra Zeneca to evaluate use case
15:51:33 <alanr> Action: Vipul to contact people at Partners to evaluate.
15:51:37 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
15:51:37 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
15:51:39 <Zakim> +EricP
15:53:10 <alanr> discussion of tech plenary f2f meeting
15:53:20 <alanr> what's on the agenda?
15:53:39 <alanr> I wasn't asking you, Zakim, just noting what was being talked about
15:54:17 <alanr> 5th and 6th of november or the 8th or 9th of november
15:55:55 <alanr> Action: Vipul to put up straw men agenda
15:56:37 <Susie> Registration for the F2F -  http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2007/
15:56:41 <ericP> this is a complex feedback cycle
15:57:09 <ericP> should converse within the next 6 months (given sufficient attention)
15:57:23 <alanr> Goal of f2f - get more participation from relevant parties in pharma/ health care. 
15:59:36 <alanr> Discussion of who at Columbia can come to f2f, issue of whether they are willing to share (unlikely?)
16:02:33 <alanr> IBM can use the patient data and share summary data, like counts, but not release of patient data without further permission
16:05:39 <Zakim> -Rachel
16:05:41 <Zakim> -Kerstin_Forsberg
16:05:43 <Zakim> -Vipul_Kashyap
16:05:44 <Zakim> -Helen_Chen
16:05:46 <Zakim> -[IBM]
16:05:49 <Zakim> -Susie
16:07:08 <vipul> rrsagent, make minutes
16:07:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/18-hcls-minutes.html vipul
16:10:33 <Zakim> -EricP
16:10:34 <Zakim> SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM has ended
16:10:35 <Zakim> Attendees were Susie, Kerstin_Forsberg, Vipul_Kashyap, [IBM], Rachel, Alan, Helen_Chen, EricP
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