13:58:37 RRSAgent has joined #i18nits 13:58:37 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-i18nits-irc 13:58:41 meeting: i18n ITS WG 13:58:44 chair: Felix 13:58:47 scribe: Felix 13:59:05 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0025.html 13:59:10 rrsagent, make log public 14:01:24 Jirka has joined #i18nits 14:01:34 I18N_TS()10:00AM has now started 14:01:41 +Jirka 14:03:03 +Felix 14:03:15 +[SAP] 14:04:13 chriLi has joined #i18nits 14:04:40 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0025.html 14:04:47 topic: action items 14:05:04 ACTION-1 draft general section about extending/customizing schemas - ongoing 14:05:13 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0093.html 14:05:20 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0094.html 14:06:40 (discussing proposal of Jirka to add NVDL into this section) 14:13:11 Christian will rework the section based on Jirkas and Felix feedkback 14:13:41 Felix proposes mentioning NVDL in the list of schema languages, but making its status as a "meta" language clear 14:14:16 We will gather links to material (e.g. books and tutorials) on specific schema languages 14:14:56 We will add a health warning like "You need such material to really work on schema modularization, this document (XML 1i8n BP) is not enough for that 14:15:59 related topic of NVDL example, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0094.html 14:23:23 discussion on if we should have susubbsections on schema modularizations in sec. 5 14:23:58 e.g. 5.1.2 for XHTML+NVDL 14:25:06 agreement on this proposal, related AI for Jirka 14:25:25 action: Jirka to create NVDL subsubsections in sec. 5, e.g. XHTML+NVDL 14:25:25 Created ACTION-20 - Create NVDL subsubsections in sec. 5, e.g. XHTML+NVDL [on Jirka Kosek - due 2007-09-19]. 14:26:03 ACTION-3 pending 14:26:18 ACTION-4 Of BP document to change the descriptions of ITS+existing schemas to say that there is no need to have ITS attributes for existing markup, and have association rules instead 14:27:01 new due date 27 September 14:27:21 ACTION-5 Markup "HEBREW TEXT, W3C" as an example 14:27:31 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0069.html 14:29:30 references proposed by Martin http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0080.html 14:30:42 Felix describes the thread 14:31:38 no objections on the call to these changes, green light to Yves to make (or finalize) all modifications 14:31:52 close ACTION-5 14:32:32 ACTION-6 pending 14:32:52 ACTION-11 still waiting for reply 14:32:59 ACTION-14 pending 14:33:15 ACTION-15 waiting for reply 14:33:30 ACTION-18 done 14:33:38 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0073.html 14:34:30 http://www.langtag.net/ (BCP 47 implementations) 14:38:28 discussion about whether BCP 47 is applied in other scenarios, some information available on that from http://www.bortzmeyer.org/gabuzomeu-parsing-language-tags.html 14:39:09 ACTION-19 ongoing 14:39:30 topic: W3C Work or other work for ITS 14:40:15 no new LCs, no news on XLIFF, SRX, SMIL3 14:40:59 EMMA 14:41:02 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0068.html 14:41:09 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2007Aug/0005.html 14:41:13 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2007Aug/att-0005/EMMA_and_ITS.html 14:41:25 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0092.html 14:48:03 agreement to send http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0092.html as an answer, WG might give additinonal input until Friday this week 14:48:16 topic: BP for this week 14:48:24 Best Practice 16: Specify text directionality if needed 14:49:28 modification of Yves of BP 16 taking discussion into account is http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0091.html 14:52:13 everybody on the call is fine with Yves modifications described in 0091 mail 14:52:31 Best Practice 17: Override translatability information if needed 14:52:35 http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthTransOver 14:52:43 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0084.html 14:53:35 everybody on the call is fine with BP 17 14:53:42 Best Practice 18: Assign unique identifiers to text items when possible 14:53:46 http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthUniqueID 14:53:50 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0074.html 14:56:04 everybody agrees with the "BP alignment proposal" in thread http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0074.html , related AI for Yves below 14:56:22 action: Yves to align BP 9 and BP 18, taking thread http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0074.html into account 14:56:22 Created ACTION-21 - Align BP 9 and BP 18, taking thread http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0074.html into account [on Yves Savourel - due 2007-09-19]. 14:56:31 Best Practice 19: Avoid CDATA sections when possible 14:56:36 http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthCDATA 14:56:40 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0076.html 14:57:06 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0082.html 14:57:25 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0085.html 14:59:39 agreement that we should have 2 BP, one on CDATA issues, one on non-XML data embedded in XML. Proposal to have an AI for Yves to take http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0082.html thread into account and to work on these BPs 15:00:10 action: Yves to work on 2 BP, one on CDATA issues, one on non-XML data embedded in XML, and to take http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0082.html thread into account 15:00:10 Created ACTION-22 - Work on 2 BP, one on CDATA issues, one on non-XML data embedded in XML, and to take http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0082.html thread into account [on Yves Savourel - due 2007-09-19]. 15:00:26 topic: Other business 15:02:13 -Christian 15:02:14 -Jirka 15:02:15 -Felix 15:02:17 I18N_TS()10:00AM has ended 15:02:18 Jirka has left #i18nits 15:02:18 Attendees were Jirka, Felix, Christian 15:03:30 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:03:30 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki 15:22:21 rrsagent, bye 15:22:21 I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-i18nits-actions.rdf : 15:22:21 ACTION: Jirka to create NVDL subsubsections in sec. 5, e.g. XHTML+NVDL [1] 15:22:21 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-i18nits-irc#T14-25-25 15:22:21 ACTION: Yves to align BP 9 and BP 18, taking thread http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0074.html into account [2] 15:22:21 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-i18nits-irc#T14-56-22 15:22:21 ACTION: Yves to work on 2 BP, one on CDATA issues, one on non-XML data embedded in XML, and to take http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0082.html thread into account [3] 15:22:21 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-i18nits-irc#T15-00-10 15:22:25 zakim, bye 15:22:25 Zakim has left #i18nits 15:22:27 fsasaki has left #i18nits