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13:55:19 <shadi> zakim, this will be ert
13:55:19 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
13:55:25 <shadi> meeting: ERT WG
13:55:29 <shadi> chair: Shadi
13:55:40 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Sep/0020.html
13:55:50 <shadi> agenda+ Remaining issues for EARL 1.0 Schema
13:55:58 <shadi> agenda+ Remaining issues for HTTP-in-RDF
13:56:09 <shadi> agenda+ Continuing with Pointer Methods
13:56:19 <shadi> agenda+  Other work in the pipeline
13:56:30 <shadi> agenda+ Upcoming teleconference and face to face meetings
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14:01:20 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
14:01:23 <Zakim> +Shadi
14:01:52 <Zakim> +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
14:02:17 <JohannesK> Zakim, Klaus is really Johannes
14:02:17 <Zakim> +Johannes; got it
14:02:28 <Zakim> +Johannes.a
14:02:45 <JohannesK> Zakim, Johannes.a is really CarlosV
14:02:45 <Zakim> +CarlosV; got it
14:05:46 <JohannesK> scribe: Johannes
14:05:53 <JohannesK> scribenick: JohannesK
14:06:09 <shadi> agenda?
14:06:27 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:06:27 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Remaining issues for EARL 1.0 Schema" taken up [from shadi]
14:06:38 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/issues
14:08:00 <JohannesK> section 2.8 (Content) Content will be moved into its own document
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14:09:04 <JohannesK> issue 4: finish RDF schema first and then maybe someone can create XML schema
14:09:16 <Zakim> +Reinhard_Ruemer
14:10:20 <JohannesK> saz: pending issue 7a
14:14:38 <JohannesK> CV: issue 5b?
14:15:16 <JohannesK> saz: still open except editorial part
14:15:23 <JohannesK> RR: issue 8?
14:16:10 <JohannesK> saz: CI's concern extensible list may become to open for misue/ambiguity
14:16:44 <JohannesK> s/misue/misuse/
14:17:30 <JohannesK> saz: need real proposal and discussion on that
14:18:33 <JohannesK> saz: issue 7a
14:19:16 <JohannesK> saz: heuristic -> mixed -> inferred
14:19:38 <JohannesK> saz: proposal to drop it, too ambiguous, no real information
14:20:10 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0019.html
14:20:29 <JohannesK> saz: four possible testmodes: automatic, semi-automatic, manual, undisclosed
14:22:50 <JohannesK> saz: discussion of aggregating tests; for atomic tests one of the four testmodes can easily be found
14:23:11 <JohannesK> sa: what to do if a there is a compound of several tests?
14:23:22 <JohannesK> s/sa/saz/
14:31:15 <JohannesK> cv: still want something like testmode 'combined'
14:32:15 <JohannesK> saz: the 'combined' could be extracted from the test description, so it's no new information
14:33:14 <JohannesK> rr: the additional information is still that it is a combination
14:33:56 <JohannesK> jk: semi-automatic itself is a combination of automatic manual parts
14:36:07 <JohannesK> saz: place for combination information is in the test description
14:36:57 <JohannesK> saz: in EARL we already have TestRequirement vs. TestCase and SingleAssertor vs CompoundAssertor
14:37:38 <JohannesK> saz: proposal: dropping testmode inferred, adding a note to next schema document version
14:38:02 <JohannesK> saz: for us and for asking external feedback
14:38:58 <JohannesK> RESOLUTION: drop testmode inferred, add a note to next schema document version
14:40:30 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:40:30 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Remaining issues for HTTP-in-RDF" taken up [from shadi]
14:40:57 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/HTTP/issues
14:42:54 <JohannesK> jk: no open issues, some issues we resolved (e.g. timestamping), some are addressed by new approach
14:43:26 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:43:26 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Continuing with Pointer Methods" taken up [from shadi]
14:43:28 <JohannesK> ACTION jk to create a new document describing the new approach
14:43:30 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0042
14:43:52 <JohannesK> ACTION: jk to create a new document describing the new approach
14:44:27 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 4
14:44:27 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Other work in the pipeline" taken up [from shadi]
14:44:32 <JohannesK> no questions on pointers
14:44:47 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Guide-20070802
14:45:30 <JohannesK> saz: new, more complete version of the EARL guide online
14:47:14 <JohannesK> cv: I want to wait with editing until HTTP-in-RDF, Content, and Pointers are more stable
14:49:02 <JohannesK> saz: Content
14:49:17 <JohannesK> jk: should be quite easy for me to do that
14:49:57 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 5
14:49:57 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Upcoming teleconference and face to face meetings" taken up [from shadi]
14:51:30 <JohannesK> saz: no telcon on 3rd October
14:58:28 <JohannesK> ACTION: saz to create new EARL schema document by 8th October
15:03:07 <Zakim> -Reinhard_Ruemer
15:03:10 <Zakim> -Johannes
15:03:11 <Zakim> -CarlosV
15:03:16 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
15:03:17 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas, Johannes, CarlosV, Reinhard_Ruemer
15:04:10 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:04:14 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
15:04:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-er-minutes.html shadi
15:04:16 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:04:22 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
15:04:22 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-er-actions.rdf :
15:04:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jk to create a new document describing the new approach [1]
15:04:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-er-irc#T14-43-52
15:04:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: saz to create new EARL schema document by 8th October [2]
15:04:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-er-irc#T14-58-28
15:04:26 <shadi> zakim, bye
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