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13:48:32 <shadi> zakim, this will be ert
13:48:32 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 12 minutes
13:48:38 <shadi> meeting: ERT WG
13:48:42 <shadi> chair: Shadi
13:48:48 <shadi> regrets: CarlosI
13:49:44 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Sep/0003.html
13:50:04 <shadi> agenda+ "Content" in EARL 1.0 Schema and in HTTP-in-RDF
13:50:16 <shadi> agenda+ Inferred test results
13:50:26 <shadi> agenda+ Face to face meeting
14:01:14 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
14:01:17 <Zakim> +Shadi
14:02:24 <shadi> regrets: CarlosI, David
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14:07:44 <shadi> regrets: Johannes, CarlosI, David
14:08:28 <Zakim> +Reinhard
14:10:01 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:10:01 <Zakim> agendum 1. ""Content" in EARL 1.0 Schema and in HTTP-in-RDF" taken up [from shadi]
14:11:05 <shadi> scribe: Shadi
14:11:10 <shadi> saz: merging earl:Content and http:Content?
14:11:16 <shadi> [agreement]
14:11:31 <shadi> RESOLUTION: merge earl:Content and http:Content classes
14:12:14 <shadi> saz: separating http:Content from HTTP-in-RDF?
14:12:38 <shadi> [agreement]
14:13:45 <shadi> RESOLUTION: separate http:Content from HTTP-in-RDF into a different namespace and different document
14:13:53 <shadi> saz: who does the work?
14:14:30 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/HTTP/WD-RFC822-in-RDF-20060502
14:16:00 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Aug/0003.html
14:18:08 <shadi> cv: has nothing to do with RFC822 -just Content, Base64Content, TextContent, XMLContent, etc
14:18:18 <shadi> http:Content
14:18:18 <shadi> http:Base64Content rdfs:subClassOf http:Content
14:18:18 <shadi> |- 1 http:bytes
14:18:18 <shadi> http:bytes (rdfs:Literal, typed: xsd:base64Binary)
14:18:18 <shadi> http:TextContent rdfs:subClassOf http:Content
14:18:19 <shadi> |- 1 http:chars
14:18:21 <shadi> http:chars (rdfs:Literal)
14:18:23 <shadi> http:XMLContent rdfs:subClassOf http:Content
14:18:25 <shadi> |- 0..1 http:xmlLeadingMisc
14:18:28 <shadi> |- 0..1 http:docTypeDecl
14:18:29 <shadi> |- 1 http:xmlRest
14:18:31 <shadi> http:xmlLeadingMisc (rdfs:XMLLiteral)
14:18:33 <shadi> http:docTypeDecl (http:DocTypeDecl)
14:18:35 <shadi> http:xmlRest (rdfs:XMLLiteral)
14:18:37 <shadi> http:DocTypeDecl
14:18:39 <shadi> |- 1 http:dtdName
14:18:41 <shadi> |- 0..1 http:publicId
14:18:43 <shadi> |- 0..1 http:systemId
14:18:45 <shadi> |- 0..1 http:internalSubset
14:18:47 <shadi> http:dtdName (rdfs:Literal)
14:18:49 <shadi> http:publicId (rdfs:Literal)
14:18:51 <shadi> http:systemId (rdfs:Literal, typed: xsd:anyURI)
14:18:53 <shadi> http:internalSubset (rdfs:Literal)
14:19:00 <shadi> saz: anything else besides these classes and properties as part of the new document?
14:22:05 <shadi> RESOLUTION: rfc822:Message (includes message headers and message body) is out of scope
14:25:31 <CarlosV> [RFC2616] Fielding R, Gettys J, Mogul J, Frystik H, Masinter L, Berners-Lee T (eds) (1999). Hypertext Transfer Protocol – HTTP/1.1. Request for Comments: 2616. IETF. Available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2616.txt
14:30:37 <shadi> saz: need to clarify how this relates to the TAG definitions (especially for URI)
14:31:27 <shadi> ...for example, "while URI define resources by the conceptual properties, the Content Class focuses on the presentation instance" or such
14:31:47 <shadi> ...something to clarify the relationship between both pieces
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14:33:11 <shadi> cv: as testers we are only interested in the presentation of URIs
14:33:20 <shadi> action: CarlosV talk with Johannes and Reinhard on working on the new "Content Class document"
14:34:37 <shadi> saz: we should think about an appropriate name
14:35:06 <shadi> zakim, take up next
14:35:06 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Inferred test results" taken up [from shadi]
14:35:47 <shadi> saz: replacing earl:inferred with an aggregation logic
14:43:32 <shadi> rr: semi-automatic is misleading in the current definition need mixed
14:44:43 <shadi> cv: combination of 99 automatic and 1 manual test to become manual is also not logic
14:47:21 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0019.html
14:47:45 <shadi> - earl:semiAutomatic
14:47:45 <shadi> Where the test was partially carried out by the software tool, but where 
14:47:45 <shadi> human input or judgment was still required to decide or help decide the 
14:47:45 <shadi> outcome of the test.
14:53:30 <shadi> for discussion:
14:53:31 <shadi> #1. if all sub-tests were carried out in the same test mode, then the 
14:53:31 <shadi> test mode of the combined test is same.
14:53:31 <shadi> #2. if the test mode of any of the sub-tests is "undisclosed", then the 
14:53:31 <shadi> test mode of the combined test is also "undisclosed".
14:53:31 <shadi> #3. for all other test mode combinations of sub-tests, the test mode of 
14:53:33 <shadi> the combined test is "semi-automatic".
14:53:37 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Sep/0008.html
14:57:07 <shadi> cv: would prefer a mixed mode
14:58:27 <shadi> saz: as a value or modifier?
14:58:56 <shadi> rr: you move the statement from one place to the other, why is it better
14:59:00 <shadi> cv: agree
14:59:59 <shadi> ...inferred implies some logic but "aggregated" is more neutral
15:01:29 <Zakim> -Reinhard
15:01:30 <Zakim> -Shadi
15:01:32 <Zakim> -CarlosV
15:01:33 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
15:01:35 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, CarlosV, Reinhard
15:05:21 <shadi> zakim, bye
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15:05:26 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:05:31 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
15:05:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/05-er-minutes.html shadi
15:05:32 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:05:57 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
15:05:57 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/05-er-actions.rdf :
15:05:57 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CarlosV talk with Johannes and Reinhard on working on the new "Content Class document" [1]
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