IRC log of dawg on 2007-09-04

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14:18:42 [LeeF]

zakim, this will be dawg

14:18:42 [Zakim]

ok, LeeF; I see SW_DAWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 12 minutes

14:18:51 [LeeF]

Meeting: RDF Data Access weekly

14:20:42 [LeeF]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0113.html

14:20:52 [LeeF]

LeeF has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0113.html

14:21:00 [LeeF]

Chair: LeeF

14:21:02 [LeeF]

Scribe: LeeF

14:21:11 [LeeF]

agenda + convene

14:21:17 [LeeF]

agenda + action items

14:21:27 [LeeF]

agenda + query language test suite issues

14:21:36 [LeeF]

agenda + implementation report status

14:21:43 [LeeF]

agenda + query language spec text changes

14:21:59 [LeeF]

agenda + protocol / result format XSD problems

14:24:00 [LeeF]

minutes from last week: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/att-0115/28-dawg-minutes.html

14:24:12 [LeeF]

ACTION: EricP to publish xml format CR pending OK of the results schema [CONTINUES]

14:24:20 [LeeF]

ACTION: LeeF to solicit endpoints for HTTP and SOAP implementations of the SPARQL protocol [DONE]

14:24:28 [LeeF]

ACTION: Orri and Ivan to try the results XML schema and report back the results [DROPPED]

14:25:38 [LeeF]

ACTION: Eric+Andy to identify and collect mf:requires URIs and put in documentation [CONTINUES]

14:25:47 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP to answer "EBV of invalid numeric literals" email from Arjohn [CONTINUES]

14:25:55 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP to incorporate text to fix EBV of illformed numeric literals bug in spec [CONTINUES]

14:26:06 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [CONTINUES]

14:26:15 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP to write explanatory text saying that, like xsd:inteter and xsd:dateTime, the relative order of simple literals and xsd:strings is not defined here [CONTINUES]

14:27:17 [AndyS]

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14:28:17 [AndyS]

I looked at the syntax tests and indeed begee's comments all looked right.

14:30:02 [Zakim]

SW_DAWG()10:30AM has now started

14:30:08 [Zakim]

+LeeF

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14:31:48 [Zakim]

+ +1.603.897.aaaa

14:32:09 [LeeF]

zakim, aaaa is Souri

14:32:09 [Zakim]

+Souri; got it

14:32:11 [Zakim]

+??P6

14:32:18 [AndyS]

zakim, ??P6 is me

14:32:18 [Zakim]

+AndyS; got it

14:32:54 [LeeF]

ericP, ETA?

14:32:57 [Zakim]

+??P5

14:33:30 [iv_an_ru]

Zakim, ??P5 is me

14:33:30 [Zakim]

+iv_an_ru; got it

14:33:41 [iv_an_ru]

Yes I can

14:35:38 [Zakim]

+EricP

14:36:16 [LeeF]

Minutes from last week: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/att-0115/28-dawg-minutes.html

14:37:10 [LeeF]

Proposed: approve last week's minutes

14:37:10 [Zakim]

+??P3

14:37:13 [LeeF]

ericP: looks good

14:37:28 [LeeF]

zakim, ??P3 is Orri

14:37:28 [Zakim]

+Orri; got it

14:38:09 [LeeF]

agenda + text for relative ordering of xsd:string and simple literals

14:38:21 [LeeF]

resolved to approve last week's minutes

14:38:25 [LeeF]

zakim, take up first agendum

14:38:25 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'take up first agendum', LeeF

14:38:31 [LeeF]

zakim, take up next agendum

14:38:31 [Zakim]

agendum 1. "convene" taken up [from LeeF]

14:38:52 [LeeF]

next meeting: 11 Sep, same time and place

14:39:31 [LeeF]

next meeting's goal: look at draft implementation report, discuss what needs to be done to it to show interoperable implementations

14:39:35 [LeeF]

zakim, close this agendum

14:39:35 [Zakim]

agendum 1 closed

14:39:36 [Zakim]

I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

14:39:37 [Zakim]

2. action items [from LeeF]

14:39:38 [LeeF]

zakim, take up next agendum

14:39:38 [Zakim]

agendum 2. "action items" taken up [from LeeF]

14:40:31 [LeeF]

LeeF: Status of IETF poking, given goal of PR by end of month

14:40:38 [LeeF]

ericP: will look into how to manage schedule

14:41:12 [Zakim]

+Chimezie_Ogbuji

14:41:22 [LeeF]

zakim, close this agendum

14:41:22 [Zakim]

agendum 2 closed

14:41:23 [Zakim]

I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

14:41:24 [Zakim]

3. query language test suite issues [from LeeF]

14:41:29 [chimezie]

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14:41:33 [iv_an_ru]

(Or my knowledge of schema is too poor to get a subtle bug).

14:41:40 [chimezie]

Zakim, who is on the phone?

14:41:40 [Zakim]

On the phone I see LeeF, Souri, AndyS, iv_an_ru, EricP, Orri, Chimezie_Ogbuji

14:41:42 [LeeF]

zakim, take up next agendum

14:41:42 [Zakim]

agendum 3. "query language test suite issues" taken up [from LeeF]

14:43:09 [LeeF]

LeeF: Do we need versioning for new test suite version?

14:43:23 [LeeF]

ericP: we know most of the people already, and have to lean on the others anyway (for incomplete results), so don't think we need to version

14:43:41 [iv_an_ru]

IMHO it's enough to place it in different path on W3C site.

14:44:08 [LeeF]

AndyS: does EARL have a date of the test run?

14:45:05 [iv_an_ru]

OK, I can accomulate different versions in the test service. It let choose the suite to run.

14:45:06 [LeeF]

<group finds dc:date on each test run>

14:45:15 [LeeF]

agenda + test service

14:45:33 [LeeF]

AndyS: Could use dc:date information for versioning

14:46:12 [iv_an_ru]

dc:dateTime could be enough.

14:47:05 [LeeF]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2007Sep/0000.html negative syntax tests from Benjamin

14:47:32 [LeeF]

1) http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql3/syn-bad-26.rq - group graph pattern was not closed

14:48:07 [LeeF]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql3/syn-blabel-cross-optional-bad.rq - undefined foaf prefix

14:48:34 [LeeF]

3) http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql3/syn-blabel-cross-union-bad.rq - same problem

14:48:58 [LeeF]

4) http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql4/syn-bad-UNION-breaks-BGP.rq

14:49:46 [ericP]

http://www.w3.org/2005/01/yacker/uploads/SPARQL?lang=perl&text=%23+Tokenizing+matters.%0D%0A%23+%22longest+token+rule%22+means+this+isn%27t+a+%22%3C%22+and+%22%26%26%22%0D%0APREFIX+%3A+++%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fexample%2Fns%23%3E%0D%0ASELECT+*+WHERE%0D%0A%7B+FILTER+%28%3Fx%3C%3Fa%26%26%3Fb%3E%3Fy%29+%7D%0D%0A&action=validate+text

14:51:48 [AndyS]

Also wrong: syntax-pat-01.rq

14:52:08 [AndyS]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql1/syntax-pat-01.rq

14:52:35 [LeeF]

AndyS: Above test has an invalid URI

14:53:05 [AndyS]

Has illegl URI : http:/example, not http://example

14:53:13 [LeeF]

PROPOSED: Approve the 4 syntax tests from Benjamin, as fixed by Andy, modulo comments added by Eric

14:53:21 [LeeF]

ericP seconds

14:53:26 [LeeF]

resolved

14:54:27 [LeeF]

PROPOSED: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql1/syntax-pat-0{1-4}.rq be reapproved with fixed URIs in PREFIX clause

14:55:38 [LeeF]

AndyS seconds

14:55:46 [LeeF]

resolved

14:56:01 [LeeF]

ACTION: LeeF to update approval information on all tests approved and re-approved today

14:57:00 [LeeF]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0110.html 3 new sameTerm tests

14:57:22 [LeeF]

ARQ, Algae, Glitter all pass

14:57:41 [iv_an_ru]

Yes, I'm online.

14:57:43 [chimezie]

I haven't run those tests yet

14:57:46 [iv_an_ru]

We do not pass all

14:58:02 [iv_an_ru]

We will neve pass all, due to intentional deviations from SPARQL spec.

14:58:17 [iv_an_ru]

pardon?

14:58:18 [AndyS]

This is just for the 3 new sameTerm tests?

14:58:40 [LeeF]

PROPOSED: Approve the 3 sameTerm tests added by Eric (ref: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0110.html )

14:58:45 [iv_an_ru]

I've not yet implemented sameterm.

14:58:58 [iv_an_ru]

But I will, so let's approve it.

14:59:11 [LeeF]

ericP seconds

14:59:18 [LeeF]

resolved

15:00:26 [LeeF]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2007Aug/0030.html invalid turtle data et al. from Arjohn

15:01:25 [LeeF]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0114.html AndyS claims to have fixed them

15:02:06 [LeeF]

Eyeballing http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/dataset/dataset-11.ttl

15:02:30 [LeeF]

Used to have whitespace separated brackets ( [ ] )

15:02:48 [iv_an_ru]

who cares, frankly speaking....

15:03:29 [LeeF]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/i18n/normalization-01.ttl

15:04:16 [LeeF]

PROPOSED: Reapprove all tests that use the data files mentioned in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0114.html

15:04:51 [LeeF]

chimezie seconds

15:04:57 [LeeF]

resolved

15:05:27 [LeeF]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0114.html Andy's latest on the timezone issue

15:05:39 [LeeF]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2007Aug/0027.html Arjohn on timezone issues

15:05:49 [AndyS]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0117.html

15:06:53 [LeeF]

AndyS: To comprae two dates, compare their initial points (as per F&O), implicitly turn them into dateTime

15:07:13 [LeeF]

... dateTimes are compared when their is and isn't a timezone

15:07:16 [LeeF]

... using a worst case comparison

15:08:38 [LeeF]

Andy's proposal is to fix the results for open-world/date-01

15:09:52 [LeeF]

both tests are mf:requires <http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#date>

15:10:39 [LeeF]

they also mf:requires mf:xsd-date-eq-xsd-dateTime

15:12:35 [AndyS]

-> http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#dateTime-order

15:14:46 [iv_an_ru]

SPARQL-to-SQL front ends don't like non-deterministic behaviour so they will elect different timezones :(

15:15:13 [AndyS]

http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#func-dateTime-equal

15:15:15 [iv_an_ru]

No datetimes w/o timezones in most of SQL servers.

15:18:49 [AndyS]

Their example is "2000-01-01T12:00:00 <> 1999-12-31T23:00:00Z" is "indeterminate" (their word)

15:20:14 [iv_an_ru]

Maybe we should be able to specify via SPARQL query protocol: calculate this assuming the specified timezone for all timezoneless constants in query text.

15:22:39 [LeeF]

ericP: could add editorial text that there might be a local timezone in effect that affects interpretation of dates

15:22:51 [LeeF]

AndyS: might not need it since we rely on F&O text and subsidiaries

15:25:47 [LeeF]

ACTION: LeeF to note mf:requires of extension points when emailing out update to test suite

15:26:25 [LeeF]

<discussion - probably should leave date-1 as an unapproved test, as it's an extension test anyway>

15:27:42 [LeeF]

(meeting extended for 30 minutes)

15:27:59 [LeeF]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0108.html AndyS on <=

15:29:32 [LeeF]

ericP: I think that's consistent with XPath/XQuery

15:29:42 [LeeF]

AndyS: They define their <= slightly differently, so it's not the same

15:30:06 [LeeF]

-> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-query/#OperatorMapping operator table

15:30:37 [LeeF]

issue is "1"^^my:int <= "1"^^my:int

15:30:49 [LeeF]

which right now is a type error

15:31:39 [AndyS]

so the issues arises because the defn of <= says "numeric-equals or numeric-less-than" and not ...

15:32:20 [AndyS]

"any equal or numeric-less-than" i.e. we jumped to numerci-equals and not use our own equals (=)

15:34:32 [LeeF]

A <= B

15:34:35 [LeeF]

RDF Terms

15:34:41 [AndyS]

logical-or is our own || operator

15:34:45 [LeeF]

A = B || A < B

15:36:11 [iv_an_ru]

Can we violate transitivity of '<' if we use a mix of types?

15:36:33 [Souri]

error || true (or in other order) => what?

15:37:07 [AndyS]

It is bizaar is A = B and then A <= B is an error

15:37:08 [iv_an_ru]

I'd say true

15:38:23 [AndyS]

Souri - see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/rq25.html#evaluation

15:39:58 [LeeF]

"""

15:39:59 [LeeF]

Change the test from:

15:39:59 [LeeF]

FILTER ( ?v1 <= ?v2 || ?v1 > ?v2 )

15:39:59 [LeeF]

to:

15:39:59 [LeeF]

FILTER ( ?v1 = ?v2 || ?v1 < ?v2 || ?v1 > ?v2 )

15:40:01 [LeeF]

"""

15:41:09 [AndyS]

That is acceptable.

15:42:44 [iv_an_ru]

I guess taht we're no in the state when any change is critical. Finally, we do not add run-time errors to existing code if we replace <= with < || = .

15:43:24 [iv_an_ru]

If some existing code return results it has high chances to continue returning results.

15:44:01 [LeeF]

zakim, who's on the phone?

15:44:01 [Zakim]

On the phone I see LeeF, Souri, AndyS, iv_an_ru, EricP, Orri, Chimezie_Ogbuji

15:45:55 [chimezie]

we would need to do the same for the other operators as well if we changed the spec, right? i.e., add entries for <= as well as >=

15:46:18 [LeeF]

Souri: Avoid going to LC

15:46:34 [LeeF]

s/Souri/Orri

15:46:59 [LeeF]

Souri: not too strong feelings, avoid LC is a flash point, go with group consensus

15:47:10 [LeeF]

AndyS: Change the test to be explicit about what it's testing for

15:47:55 [LeeF]

ericP: change the test

15:48:01 [LeeF]

chimezie: change the test

15:48:28 [iv_an_ru]

No strong opinion. Let's go to LC and start SPARQL 2.0 with SPARUL and other extensions :)

15:48:46 [iv_an_ru]

but change the test first.

15:48:59 [LeeF]

PROPOSED: Change open-world/open-cmp-02.rq from "FILTER ( ?v1 <= ?v2 || ?v1 > ?v2 )" to "FILTER ( ?v1 = ?v2 || ?v1 < ?v2 || ?v1 > ?v2 )"

15:49:13 [LeeF]

ericP seconds

15:49:21 [LeeF]

resolved

15:49:43 [LeeF]

zakim, agenda?

15:49:43 [Zakim]

I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:

15:49:44 [Zakim]

3. query language test suite issues [from LeeF]

15:49:46 [Zakim]

4. implementation report status [from LeeF]

15:49:47 [Zakim]

5. query language spec text changes [from LeeF]

15:49:48 [Zakim]

6. protocol / result format XSD problems [from LeeF]

15:49:50 [Zakim]

7. text for relative ordering of xsd:string and simple literals [from LeeF]

15:49:51 [Zakim]

8. test service [from LeeF]

15:50:56 [LeeF]

Souri: suggests putting ?v1 = ?v2 in the middle to emphasize that order doesn't matter

15:53:42 [LeeF]

PROPOSED: To update the test suite with all changes from today's telecon, and re-advertise to the world

15:53:44 [ericP]

second

15:53:55 [iv_an_ru]

agree

15:54:23 [LeeF]

resolved

15:54:35 [LeeF]

zakim, close this agendum

15:54:35 [Zakim]

agendum 3 closed

15:54:36 [Zakim]

I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

15:54:37 [Zakim]

4. implementation report status [from LeeF]

15:54:42 [LeeF]

zakim, take up next agendum

15:54:42 [Zakim]

agendum 4. "implementation report status" taken up [from LeeF]

15:55:18 [AndyS]

Test open-cmp-02; Changed to "FILTER ( ?v1 < ?v2 || ?v1 = ?v2 || ?v1 > ?v2 )" and test results corrected

15:55:31 [LeeF]

ericP: i have data from test results and queries that look at them

15:56:37 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP to have first cut of shiny implementation report by 11 Sep

15:56:58 [LeeF]

zakim, close this agendum

15:56:59 [Zakim]

agendum 4 closed

15:57:00 [LeeF]

zakim, take up next agendum

15:57:01 [Zakim]

I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

15:57:02 [Zakim]

5. query language spec text changes [from LeeF]

15:57:03 [Zakim]

agendum 5. "query language spec text changes" taken up [from LeeF]

15:59:17 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP to try to produce a diff from CR to current editor's draft

15:59:35 [LeeF]

zakim, close this agendum

15:59:35 [Zakim]

agendum 5 closed

15:59:36 [Zakim]

I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

15:59:37 [Zakim]

6. protocol / result format XSD problems [from LeeF]

15:59:54 [iv_an_ru]

(I'm trying to install the service on publicly available host ATM. It's ugly but at least it demonstrates our own mismatches with the spec.)

16:00:11 [iv_an_ru]

In addition we have one i18n issue.

16:00:36 [iv_an_ru]

ATM I'm testing it with sparql.org and our own hosts.

16:01:14 [LeeF]

LeeF: Can we publish a list of tests that it doesn't handle right?

16:01:17 [LeeF]

Orri: Yes

16:02:24 [LeeF]

ACTION: Orri and Ivan to publish URL to test service along with a list of tests that aren't handled correctly yet

16:02:31 [iv_an_ru]

yes, it distinguish between failed and not executed tests.

16:03:17 [chimezie]

I have to run, unfortunately...

16:03:31 [Zakim]

-Chimezie_Ogbuji

16:05:21 [LeeF]

zakim, agenda?

16:05:21 [Zakim]

I see 3 items remaining on the agenda:

16:05:22 [Zakim]

6. protocol / result format XSD problems [from LeeF]

16:05:23 [Zakim]

7. text for relative ordering of xsd:string and simple literals [from LeeF]

16:05:24 [Zakim]

8. test service [from LeeF]

16:05:43 [LeeF]

Lee and Eric and anyone else interested meet tomorrow (5-Sep) at 11:00AM EDT to discuss XSD problems and get to the bottom of it

16:06:27 [LeeF]

adjourned

16:06:30 [Zakim]

-Orri

16:06:32 [LeeF]

rrsagent, please draft minutes

16:06:32 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-minutes.html LeeF

16:06:36 [Zakim]

-LeeF

16:06:38 [LeeF]

rrsagent, make logs world-access

16:06:39 [Zakim]

-AndyS

16:06:41 [Zakim]

-EricP

16:06:42 [Zakim]

-Souri

16:06:45 [Zakim]

-iv_an_ru

16:06:47 [Zakim]

SW_DAWG()10:30AM has ended

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Attendees were LeeF, +1.603.897.aaaa, Souri, AndyS, iv_an_ru, EricP, Orri, Chimezie_Ogbuji

17:17:34 [afs]

zakim, please leave

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Zakim has left #dawg

17:17:45 [afs]

rrsagent, please leave

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

I see 13 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-actions.rdf :

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: EricP to publish xml format CR pending OK of the results schema [CONTINUES] [1]

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-irc#T14-24-12

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: LeeF to solicit endpoints for HTTP and SOAP implementations of the SPARQL protocol [DONE] [2]

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-irc#T14-24-20

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ACTION: Orri and Ivan to try the results XML schema and report back the results [DROPPED] [3]

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-irc#T14-24-28

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Eric+Andy to identify and collect mf:requires URIs and put in documentation [CONTINUES] [4]

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-irc#T14-25-38

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ericP to answer "EBV of invalid numeric literals" email from Arjohn [CONTINUES] [5]

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-irc#T14-25-47

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ericP to incorporate text to fix EBV of illformed numeric literals bug in spec [CONTINUES] [6]

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-irc#T14-25-55

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [CONTINUES] [7]

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-irc#T14-26-06

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ericP to write explanatory text saying that, like xsd:inteter and xsd:dateTime, the relative order of simple literals and xsd:strings is not defined here [CONTINUES] [8]

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-irc#T14-26-15

17:17:45 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: LeeF to update approval information on all tests approved and re-approved today [9]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-irc#T14-56-01

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ACTION: LeeF to note mf:requires of extension points when emailing out update to test suite [10]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-irc#T15-25-47

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ACTION: ericP to have first cut of shiny implementation report by 11 Sep [11]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-irc#T15-56-37

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ACTION: ericP to try to produce a diff from CR to current editor's draft [12]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-irc#T15-59-17

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ACTION: Orri and Ivan to publish URL to test service along with a list of tests that aren't handled correctly yet [13]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/04-dawg-irc#T16-02-24