IRC log of i18nits on 2007-08-29
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-irc
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- 13:57:26 [YvesS]
- zakim, who is here?
- 13:57:26 [Zakim]
- sorry, YvesS, I don't know what conference this is
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- On IRC I see fsasaki, RRSAgent, Zakim, YvesS, trackbot-ng
- 13:57:42 [fsasaki]
- zakim, this will be i18n
- 13:57:42 [Zakim]
- ok, fsasaki; I see I18N_TS()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
- 13:58:22 [fsasaki]
- rrsagent, make log public
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- Meeting: i18n ITS WG
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- chair: Yves
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- scribe: Felix
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- scribeNick: fsasaki
- 13:59:23 [YvesS]
- Hi felix. We have regrets from Jirka (out to a training session I thing)
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- 13:59:39 [YvesS]
- s/thing/think/
- 13:59:41 [fsasaki]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0023.html
- 13:59:48 [fsasaki]
- Hi Yves, thanks for the notice
- 13:59:49 [bbogacki]
- Hi Guys!
- 14:00:04 [YvesS]
- Hello Bartosz
- 14:00:07 [fsasaki]
- Hi Bartosz
- 14:00:47 [Zakim]
- I18N_TS()10:00AM has now started
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- +Yves_Savourel
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- +Felix
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- + +40.34.648.aaaa
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- +ChriLi
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- 14:02:52 [fsasaki]
- topic: welcome bartosz
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- Yves: welcome!
- 14:03:04 [fsasaki]
- Bartosz: workiong for XMLINTL
- 14:03:16 [fsasaki]
- .. mainly doing software engineering
- 14:03:45 [fsasaki]
- .. working on my PHD
- 14:04:35 [fsasaki]
- Yves: meeting is very informal, please don't heasitate to ask
- 14:04:57 [fsasaki]
- topic: Action items
- 14:05:03 [fsasaki]
- new tool for AIs at http://www.w3.org/International/its/track/actions/open
- 14:05:45 [YvesS]
- http://www.w3.org/International/its/track/actions
- 14:08:08 [fsasaki]
- Action-1 due now to 30 Aug
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- ACTION-2 due to 18 Sept
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- ACTION-3 postponed
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- ACTION-4 now due 5 Sept
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- ACTION-5 - taken by Felix
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- ACTION-6 pending
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- ACTION-7 - done
- 14:10:51 [fsasaki]
- http://www.w3.org/International/its/itstagset/its-errata.html
- 14:12:01 [fsasaki]
- Yves: question in general: got comments from Kara about spec, spelling errors etc., should we put them in the errata?
- 14:12:13 [fsasaki]
- Felix: yes
- 14:12:26 [fsasaki]
- action: Yves to go through Karas editorial changes and come up with a list for the errata
- 14:12:26 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-14 - Go through Karas editorial changes and come up with a list for the errata [on Yves Savourel - due 2007-09-05].
- 14:13:28 [fsasaki]
- ACTION-8
- 14:13:32 [YvesS]
- http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevRuby
- 14:13:49 [fsasaki]
- Yves: implemented Felix' editorial changes
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- no input from present people on the section
- 14:14:24 [fsasaki]
- close the AI
- 14:15:25 [fsasaki]
- ACTION-9 - see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html
- 14:15:47 [fsasaki]
- Yves: proposal from Felix for a translate rule
- 14:15:54 [fsasaki]
- .. some of them should include within text rule
- 14:18:19 [Zakim]
- -Bartosz
- 14:18:22 [fsasaki]
- Christian proposes to have some ITS schema declarations within SML 3.0
- 14:19:06 [fsasaki]
- Felix: agree, plan to go to SMIL 3.0 people, ask them to adopt http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html plus within text rule, plus ITS schema declarations within SML 3.0
- 14:19:18 [bbogacki]
- I lost the connection
- 14:19:27 [YvesS]
- we noticed.
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- I'm trying to reconnect
- 14:19:31 [fsasaki]
- agreement from Yves and Christiean
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- action: Felix to go to SMIL 3.0 people, ask them to adopt http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html plus within text rule, plus ITS schema declarations within SML 3.0
- 14:19:45 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-15 - Go to SMIL 3.0 people, ask them to adopt http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html plus within text rule, plus ITS schema declarations within SML 3.0 [on Felix Sasaki - due 2007-09-05].
- 14:20:20 [fsasaki]
- ACTION-10 - done
- 14:20:50 [Zakim]
- +??P3
- 14:21:16 [fsasaki]
- ACTION-11 - done
- 14:21:25 [fsasaki]
- Yves: sent mail today, no reply yet
- 14:22:41 [YvesS]
- http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevUniqueID
- 14:22:44 [fsasaki]
- ACTION-12
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- done, closed
- 14:23:58 [YvesS]
- http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevITSRules
- 14:24:06 [fsasaki]
- ACTION-13
- 14:24:40 [fsasaki]
- Christian: well done, thanks
- 14:24:56 [Zakim]
- -??P3
- 14:25:31 [YvesS]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0044.html
- 14:25:33 [Zakim]
- +??P3
- 14:25:58 [fsasaki]
- topic: Choice of wording for common paragraph
- 14:27:28 [YvesS]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0044.html
- 14:28:08 [fsasaki]
- preference for 2 from Christian and Felix
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- Bartosz: me as well
- 14:28:46 [fsasaki]
- Yves: I'll make the changes for the BP doc
- 14:29:00 [YvesS]
- http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthLang
- 14:29:16 [YvesS]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0030.html
- 14:29:26 [fsasaki]
- topic: BP discussion, no 15
- 14:33:58 [fsasaki]
- action: Yves to reword BP 15 to include cases where a schema does not include xml:lang
- 14:33:58 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-16 - Reword BP 15 to include cases where a schema does not include xml:lang [on Yves Savourel - due 2007-09-05].
- 14:35:53 [fsasaki]
- agreement from Yves and Felix on comment no. 2 from Christian as well
- 14:36:01 [fsasaki]
- Bartosz: could you provide an example?
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- Christian: a French quote in an English sentence, so you switch from English to French. What should happen to French example during translation?
- 14:36:54 [fsasaki]
- Bartosz: what would the attribute indicate?
- 14:37:15 [fsasaki]
- Christian: anything, you would use the Translate datacategory
- 14:37:24 [fsasaki]
- Bartosz: sounds good
- 14:37:59 [fsasaki]
- Yves: need to be careful not to put information on borrowed words
- 14:39:10 [fsasaki]
- .. think we should add no 2, I'll do that
- 14:39:43 [fsasaki]
- .. on no. 3: agree, but no need to say s.t. about it, the less text we have, the more clear the BP will be
- 14:39:47 [fsasaki]
- Christian: ok
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- Yves: on 4, agree
- 14:41:21 [fsasaki]
- .. also on no 5
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- .. we will come back to 6
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- topic: BP 21
- 14:43:27 [YvesS]
- http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthInsText
- 14:43:57 [fsasaki]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0046.html
- 14:49:21 [fsasaki]
- Christian proposes to point to Richards article, Yves will make some wording proposals
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- (related to proposal 1 from Christian)
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- agreement on 2
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- agreement on 3
- 14:52:27 [fsasaki]
- Yves will make rewording proposals for 4 and 5
- 14:53:52 [fsasaki]
- action: modify BP 21 based on input during 2007-08-29 telecon
- 14:53:52 [trackbot-ng]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - modify
- 14:54:00 [fsasaki]
- action: Yves to modify BP 21 based on input during 2007-08-29 telecon
- 14:54:00 [trackbot-ng]
- Created ACTION-17 - Modify BP 21 based on input during 2007-08-29 telecon [on Yves Savourel - due 2007-09-05].
- 14:54:05 [fsasaki]
- topic: review work
- 14:54:16 [fsasaki]
- Yves: any news on XLIFF or SRX?
- 14:54:23 [fsasaki]
- Christian: nothing on my side
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- topic: AOB
- 15:02:41 [fsasaki]
- discussion about relation between XLIFF and ITS
- 15:06:13 [fsasaki]
- value of showing XLIFF people how to create XLIFF scelecton files from ITS
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- Yves: on f2f meeting
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- not all participants confirmed yet
- 15:08:19 [fsasaki]
- Yves: Bartosz, could you look at the BP document overall, maybe you will have some generic comments?
- 15:08:28 [fsasaki]
- Bartosz: won't be able next week
- 15:08:46 [fsasaki]
- Yves: sure, congrats!
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- -ChriLi
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- -Felix
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- -Yves_Savourel
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- -??P3
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- I18N_TS()10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were Yves_Savourel, Felix, ChriLi, Bartosz
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
- 15:13:21 [fsasaki]
- rrsagent, bye
- 15:13:21 [RRSAgent]
- I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Yves to go through Karas editorial changes and come up with a list for the errata [1]
- 15:13:21 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-irc#T14-12-26
- 15:13:21 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Felix to go to SMIL 3.0 people, ask them to adopt http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007JulSep/0045.html plus within text rule, plus ITS schema declarations within SML 3.0 [2]
- 15:13:21 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-irc#T14-19-45
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- ACTION: Yves to reword BP 15 to include cases where a schema does not include xml:lang [3]
- 15:13:21 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-irc#T14-33-58
- 15:13:21 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: modify BP 21 based on input during 2007-08-29 telecon [4]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-irc#T14-53-52
- 15:13:21 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Yves to modify BP 21 based on input during 2007-08-29 telecon [5]
- 15:13:21 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-i18nits-irc#T14-54-00
- 15:13:24 [fsasaki]
- zakim, bye
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